Try not to make yourself look like a fool... Are you stoning disobedient children? Are you drinking wine for your stomach? Are you telling women they must remain silent in church, and only get their explanatory information from their husbands? (We both know I could fill a page with unauthorative things you claim we are to follow.)
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Little Willie, Are those authoritative statements, or should I just take them as not being authoritative?
Is your psychology authoritative, or just take them as not being authoritative?
Little Willie, Catholics and Mormons applaud your statements. Here it is:
You do realize, don't you, that the Bible is not "authoritative." Nowhere does it make that claim. All that is ever said is that the Scriptures are inspired" and can be used to do some teaching.
Don't try to make it any more than that, and you won't get yourself upset when one man happens to write differently than another one does.
That explains so many things about your replies.
This question was my reply to your asinine statement: "Are those authoritative statements, or should I just take them as not being authoritative?"
Is your psychology authoritative, or just take them as not being authoritative?
Little Willie, Catholics and Mormons applaud your statements. Here it is:
You do realize, don't you, that the Bible is not "authoritative." Nowhere does it make that claim. All that is ever said is that the Scriptures are inspired" and can be used to do some teaching.
Don't try to make it any more than that, and you won't get yourself upset when one man happens to write differently than another one does.
That explains so many things about your replies.
This question was my reply to your asinine statement: "Are those authoritative statements, or should I just take them as not being authoritative?"
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Little Willie, Here are your original statements: You do realize, don't you, that the Bible is not "authoritative." Nowhere does it make that claim. All that is ever said is that the Scriptures are inspired" and can be used to do some teaching.
Don't try to make it any more than that, and you won't get yourself upset when one man happens to write differently than another one does.
My question to you was and is: So what book or teaching would you suggest a person follow? Are you the authority? Or, should a person follow Joseph Smith? Or, should they follow the teachings of Catholicism? Should we praying to Mary? What about confessing to their priests?
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I agree. For your answer is contradictory to your original statement: You do realize, don't you, that the Bible is not "authoritative." Nowhere does it make that claim. All that is ever said is that the Scriptures are inspired" and can be used to do some teaching.
Don't try to make it any more than that, and you won't get yourself upset when one man happens to write differently than another one does.
Don't try to make it any more than that, and you won't get yourself upset when one man happens to write differently than another one does.
I repeat. The Bible is NOT authoritative. The Word of God is. The Word of God is NOT a compiled book. It is Jesus (God), and what He sent to teach us and to lead us into all righteousness... The Holy Spirit (The part of Him that resides within us.)
The Holy Spirit MAY lead us to look in the Bible... He may lead us to hear a certain song on our car radio.. He may lead us to listen to something a homeless person might say... He may simply give us a thought.
But to expect that a book should direct your life, is to live as the Pharisees did.
The Holy Spirit MAY lead us to look in the Bible... He may lead us to hear a certain song on our car radio.. He may lead us to listen to something a homeless person might say... He may simply give us a thought.
But to expect that a book should direct your life, is to live as the Pharisees did.
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That is exactly why the Bible is authoritiative! John introduced Jesus by using a construct common in both Greek and Jewish culture – the word logoß (logos), which harkened back to Old Testament concepts of God’s word as the embodiment of God’s will that thereby effects the accomplishment of His will. To the Greek, the logos was the concept of a single mind of God (or “gods,” as many Gnostics thought) designating His divine reason and plan that served to coordinate the universe and everything in it.This word was well suited to John's purpose in John 1:1-14.
To his Greek readers, the use of the term Logos would have likely brought forth the idea of a mediating principle between God and the world. Christ is not simply the personification of God’s revelation to man through His word, but God’s perfect revelation of Himself! And if God is not “authoritative, who is?
To his Greek readers, the use of the term Logos would have likely brought forth the idea of a mediating principle between God and the world. Christ is not simply the personification of God’s revelation to man through His word, but God’s perfect revelation of Himself! And if God is not “authoritative, who is?
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God" (2 Timothy 3:16). I tend to agree that if ALL scripture is God inspired, that pretty much makes it about as authoritative as authoritative gets.
I personally don't agree with the findings of Westcott and Hort who subscribe to the Alexandrian manuscripts (minority text) as being more reliable than the Byzantine text-type simply because they're older.
Psalms 12:6&7
The words of the LORD are pure words,
Like silver tried in a furnace of earth,
Purified seven times.
You shall keep them, O LORD,
You shall preserve them from this generation forever.
Matthew 24
Heaven and earth shall pass away,
but my words shall not pass away.
'Not one jot or tittle of the Torah will fail until all is fulfilled.' Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
'To the Torah and to the Testimony. If they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them.'
Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
In reply to Satan. 'Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God'. Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
'The Scripture cannot be broken.' Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
'I write --- that you may remember the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and the commandments of the Lord and Saviour through your Apostles'. Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
'Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book'. Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
'If any man comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house.' Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
Cited constantly, 'IT IS WRITTEN.' Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
'They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them'. Sounds pretty authoritative to me..
'I charge you in the sight of God and of Christ Jesus, preach the word.' Makes the word seem pretty authoritative to me.
'If any man teach a different doctrine and does not consent to sound words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ (which could only be known from the Gospels) and to the doctrine which is according to godliness (found in Paul's letters), he is puffed up knowing nothing ---'. sounds pretty authoritative to me.
And so we could go on.
'To the Torah and to the Testimony. If they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them.'
Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
In reply to Satan. 'Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God'. Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
'The Scripture cannot be broken.' Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
'I write --- that you may remember the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and the commandments of the Lord and Saviour through your Apostles'. Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
'Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book'. Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
'If any man comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house.' Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
Cited constantly, 'IT IS WRITTEN.' Sounds pretty authoritative to me.
'They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them'. Sounds pretty authoritative to me..
'I charge you in the sight of God and of Christ Jesus, preach the word.' Makes the word seem pretty authoritative to me.
'If any man teach a different doctrine and does not consent to sound words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ (which could only be known from the Gospels) and to the doctrine which is according to godliness (found in Paul's letters), he is puffed up knowing nothing ---'. sounds pretty authoritative to me.
And so we could go on.
Why do you think He was to teach them? So that they could pass on His truth to others authoritatively. And the only record we have of it is in the Scriptures.
If this was not His purpose why did He 'open their minds to understand the Scriptures?'
It was because the Scriptures were to be His authority.
He then defined them as 'the Torah, the Prophets and the Psalms.'
If this was not His purpose why did He 'open their minds to understand the Scriptures?'
It was because the Scriptures were to be His authority.
He then defined them as 'the Torah, the Prophets and the Psalms.'
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So on your basis we must believe everything that any crank like you says just because they say 'the Holy Spirit told me'?
To the word and to the testimony. If they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them.'
All we genuinely know of the teaching of Jesus is found in the New Testament. That is our ONLY authority for what He said.
To the word and to the testimony. If they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them.'
All we genuinely know of the teaching of Jesus is found in the New Testament. That is our ONLY authority for what He said.