Rapture= false teaching

[miktre]

MATTHEW 24 IN ITS ENTIRETY CONT.
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37But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
What happened in the days of Noah? The fallen angels were here on earth corrupting mankind, will you fall for their deception? They are very beautiful angelic beings, the whole world will whore after them. But not you friend, for you know the truth and stay a spiritual virgin.
No rapture mentioned here.

38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Will you be already married when Christ shows up for His bride? Of course not friend, you have the Truth.
No rapture mentioned here.

39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
They knew not because they didn't read the simplicity of Christ's teaching and thought those angelic beings were sent of God and that Christ was already here. When would one least likely to think Christ to come: If they already thought He was here.
No rapture mentioned here.

40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
OK, here comes the rapturist with his false doctrine and wants to forget everything Christ just taught them and beat his doctrine with a sledge hammer into the word of God, there is simply no place for it. The one taken is by the flood of lies from satans mouth. This is easy to document in Luke 21 and Mark 13. The rapurist can't let go of this so I will probably haft to go back to show them where they have erred and post the scripture for all to see, again. This is what happens when you grab a verse here and there and try to make doctrine. Oh how satan loves to use peoples errors concerning the word to perpetuate lies.
Without any doubt, No rapture mentioned here.

41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Don't take off and run to the fake, stay doing God's work and proclaiming the Truth.
Without any doubt, No rapture mentioned here.

42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
We know not the hour but we do know the signs, so you had better stay alert and watch for those signs, and not grow weary.
No rapture mentioned here.

43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
You had better watch the WHOLE night through and don't fall off. night= satans reign; day= Day of the Lord
No rapture mentioned here.

44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Have oil in your lamp, He comes when most think He's already here.
No rapture mentioned here.

45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
Can the Lord trust you to teach the Truth about the right season in the endtimes?
No rapture mentioned here.

46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Praise God Almighty, teach the Truth and make a stand against the anti-christ.
No rapture mentioned here.

47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
A big responsibility.
No rapture mentioned here.

48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
Hold the brakes friend, Christ's not done teaching. Some shall fall off right at the very end friend, what a shame, they almost made it. Pray it not be you friend and I pray it not be me.
No rapture mentioned here.

49And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
They folded under the pressure and have partaken in the ungodliness.
No rapture mentioned here.

50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
Parable of the ten virgins. Though they did not partake in marrying and giving in marriage, they did eat and drank with the drunken.
No rapture mentioned here.

51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
The door is shut, judgement shall be given. AMEN

Guess what friend? We're at the end and No rapture mentioned whatsoever.
Absolute travesty how one can say Christ never warned them of satan coming first, yet they will desperately try to make their false rapture align with Christ's teaching by pulling out a verse or two of Matthew 24 of proclaim the other 95% of the chapter doesn't pertain to them. Oh what a wicked lie satan has sown into the hearts of men, that they deny the truth and turn unto fables and doctrines of men. That lie shall never be told again in that Day and they shall know you are the Lord of the Most High and your throne shall reign forever and ever Amen

Note to reader:
The commentary in the above chapter is not to force the word of God toward any particular doctrine, but rather give a honest look at our gathering together unto Him. The commentary is only to help naturally guide the reader through the simplicity of Christ's teaching, nothing more.

 

[miktre]

Now read it again as it is written in the Book and let the simplicity of Christ's teaching ring in your ears.

Matthew 24

1And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25Behold, I have told you before.
26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

[greatkraw]

Note to reader:
The commentary in the above chapter is not to force the word of God toward any particular doctrine, but rather give a honest look at our gathering together unto Him. The commentary is only to help naturally guide the reader through the simplicity of Christ's teaching, nothing more.

Inappropriate comment removed.....

 

[miktre]

Well its not toward any particular doctrine, rather against the false rapture doctrine.
I still have yet to post the scripture from the OT where God is very angry at those who teach this endtime doctrine. I guess I'll save it for the proper time.
It is what it is, if you believe you are already gone then the whole chapter won't pertain to you anyway, only a select few verses you want to rip from it will.LoL
Go ahead and strip a few bits and pieces from my post as to why I'm wrong. I enjoy the work.

BRING SCRIPTURE THOUGH!!!​

 

[charisenexcelcis]

You wear us out. You should change your name to Cool Hand Luke.

 

[miktre]

You wear us out. You should change your name to Cool Hand Luke.

Not a fitting title for I, unlike the rapurist, have stayed in the word and remained unscathed.
I understand how you rapurist love just a verse or maybe two. Thats the problem, they just want the quick fix and never quite make it into the meat of the word.
Maybe the rapurist should change his name to peter pan cause he loves fly away fairy tales.LoL

Isaiah 54
14In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee.
15Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.
16Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
17No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

Try staying in the Truth and you won't run into these problems.
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[charisenexcelcis]

Not a fitting title for I, unlike the rapurist, have stayed in the word and remained unscathed.
I understand how you rapurist love just a verse or maybe two. Thats the problem, they just want the quick fix and never quite make it into the meat of the word.
Maybe the rapurist should change his name to peter pan cause he loves fly away fairy tales.LoL

Isaiah 54
14In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee.
15Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.
16Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
17No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

Try staying in the Truth and you won't run into these problems.​

Not sure why I got this response, since my post was just a small, and complementary joke. Have you seen the movie, Cool Hand Luke?

 

[miktre]

Not sure why I got this response, since my post was just a small, and complementary joke. Have you seen the movie, Cool Hand Luke?

Sorry bout that.
Yeah I saw it along time ago. Luke gets the crap beat out of him by that big guy, till the guy gets tired of punching his face.
I tried to keep the Matt 24 post as short as possible, I thought you referring to it being purposely long-winded as to win an argument by wearing the opposition out, while I'm get hammered in the face by sceptics.
I recently got accused of making posts long purposely and I jumped the gun a bit.
Once again sorry, friend.
My mistake.

 

[joint-heir]

14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
When the GOSPEL is finally preached to everyone the end of the age of the BRIDE will come and JESUS WILL return for the dead in CHRIST and we that are still alive to be CAUGHT AWAY/RAPTURED
THEN
TRIBULATION BEGINS
BECAUSE
15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
THIS REPRESENT DANIEL 9:27
VERSE 27 speaks to the reference of MATTHEW 24:15 BEGINNING of TRIBULATION
27) And he (Antichrist) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week (7 YEARS): and in the midst (3 1/2 YEAR MARK) of the week he (Antichrist) shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease.......

PAY ATTENTION NOW

DANIEL 11:44-45 IS SPECIFIC THIS IS 3 1/2 YEAR MARK OF TRIBULATION BECAUSE ITS ABOUT ANTICHRIST SETTING UP HIS THRONE AND PRESENTING HIMSELF AS GOD ALMIGHTY.......

DANIEL 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up (REVELATIONS 12:7-9), the GREAT PRINCE (MICHAEL) which standeth for the children of thy people (DANIELS people the 144,000 or 12,000 per 12 tribes of Israel): and there shall be a time of trouble (WRATH of GOD) (REVELATION 9 demons from the bottomless pit (5TH TRUMPET) and the 200,000,000 demons trapped under EUPHRATES (6TH TRUMPET) TO BEGIN LAST 3 1/2 YEARS OF TRIBULATION), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and AT THAT TIME (3 1/2 YEAR MARK) THY PEOPLE (JEWS the 144,000) SHALL BE DELIVERED.......

REVELATION 6:9-11 TRIBULATION BEHEADED SAINTS
REVELATIONS 6:12-17 GOD IN EXREME WRATH MODE THAT WONT END UNTIL AFTER ARMAGEDDON
REVELATIONS 7:1-8 144,000 JEWS OF THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL RAPTURED
REVELATIONS 7:9-17 EVERY SINGLE BEHEADED TRIBULATION SAINTS
REVELATIONS 12:7-9 MICHAEL PERMANTLY REMOVING SATAN FOREVER FROM HEAVEN

WHAT TRANSPIRES AROUND 3 1/2 YEAR MARK OF TRIBULATION ::: CLEARLY shows us the 3 1/2 MARK of TRIBULATION WHICH also COINCIDES with DANIEL 12:1 WHERE you have SATAN being PERMANTLY REMOVED from heaven. WHERE Antichrist sets up his throne by which the FALSE PROPHET sets up worship of Antichrist and THE MARK 666. WHERE THE FIRST MARTYRS (BEHEADED) ARE IMMEDIATELY TRANSFERED TO HEAVEN SINCE THE RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. WHERE GOD UNLEASHES HIS EXTREME WRATH BEFORE ARMAGEDDON (REVELATIONS 9). ALSO...THE RAPTURE OF DANIELS PEOPLE THE 144,000.......

THIS IS ACTUAL SCRIPTURE AT THE ACTUAL TIMELINE
WE CLEARLY SEE AS SOON AS THOSE WHO ARE BEHEADED AND NOT ACCEPT THE MARK 666
THEY IMMEDIATELY GO TO HEAVEN BECAUSE RESURRECTION OR RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE
WE ALSO SEE
YOUR MID-TRIP WHICH CLEARLY SHOWS US IS THE 144,000.......NOT THE BRIDE WHICH IS THE SAVED AND ALREADY RAPTURED

THIS CLEARLY SHOWS WE THE BRIDE / CHURCH WILL BE RAPTURED BEFORE TRIBULATION BEGINS
THE OTHER RAPTURES ARE CLEARLY 144,000 AND BEHEADED SAINTS AFTER THE 3 1/2 YEAR MARK OF TRIBULATION

 

[miktre]

Quite the interesting array of bits and pieces you put together. It almost wants to leave the reader in a hypnotic overload, I can see why you easily run into error. I will be OK though and we shall address these verses as to see were you have erred and as to why they don't align with the simplicity of Christ's teaching that is Matthew Chapter 24.

14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
When the GOSPEL is finally preached to everyone the end of the age of the BRIDE will come and JESUS WILL return for the dead in CHRIST and we that are still alive to be CAUGHT AWAY/RAPTURED
THEN
TRIBULATION BEGINS
BECAUSE
Very good friend up until you go off out of nowhere and start ranting about rapture.



15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
THIS REPRESENT DANIEL 9:27
VERSE 27 speaks to the reference of MATTHEW 24:15 BEGINNING of TRIBULATION
27) And he (Antichrist) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week (7 YEARS): and in the midst (3 1/2 YEAR MARK) of the week he (Antichrist) shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease.......
OK, you want to pull out two verses of Matthew 24 and build your doctrine around those two verse. Yes, yes, I've seen this method used before many times. I'll tell you what we shall do, we shall next do a study on the 'Abomination of Desolation' and the readers will know why the rapurist can't hang his hat on this verse for they will see Daniel taught contrary to this false doctrine.


PAY ATTENTION NOW

DANIEL 11:44-45 IS SPECIFIC THIS IS 3 1/2 YEAR MARK OF TRIBULATION BECAUSE ITS ABOUT ANTICHRIST SETTING UP HIS THRONE AND PRESENTING HIMSELF AS GOD ALMIGHTY.......
Yes , He sets himself up as God. Does it say you will be "raptured away"? I'm sorry.

DANIEL 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up (REVELATIONS 12:7-9), the GREAT PRINCE (MICHAEL) which standeth for the children of thy people (DANIELS people the 144,000 or 12,000 per 12 tribes of Israel): and there shall be a time of trouble (WRATH of GOD) (REVELATION 9 demons from the bottomless pit (5TH TRUMPET) and the 200,000,000 demons trapped under EUPHRATES (6TH TRUMPET) TO BEGIN LAST 3 1/2 YEARS OF TRIBULATION), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and AT THAT TIME (3 1/2 YEAR MARK) THY PEOPLE (JEWS the 144,000) SHALL BE DELIVERED.......
Still not seeing the verse where where it said you were raptured away before the Great Tribulation begins.


REVELATION 6:9-11 TRIBULATION BEHEADED SAINTS
They were slain during the Great tribulation
No rapture here.

REVELATIONS 6:12-17 GOD IN EXREME WRATH MODE THAT WONT END UNTIL AFTER ARMAGEDDON
Very good, Gods wrath which is not for His children
No rapture here.

REVELATIONS 7:1-8 144,000 JEWS OF THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL RAPTURED
He said Israel not Jews. Do you not know that Judah is but one tribe of Israel? There are 11 others. Did you not notice this happens after God's wrath? I thought we were looking for your pre-trib rapture verses?

REVELATIONS 7:9-17 EVERY SINGLE BEHEADED TRIBULATION SAINTS
I guess you must of missed verse 13 and 14.
13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Still not seeing any pre-trib rapture verses.

REVELATIONS 12:7-9 MICHAEL PERMANTLY REMOVING SATAN FOREVER FROM HEAVEN
My goodness, do you even read the scripture you quote?
9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.


I guess you forgot to add the rapture before tribulation verses from Revelations, because I don't see any.


WHAT TRANSPIRES AROUND 3 1/2 YEAR MARK OF TRIBULATION ::: CLEARLY shows us the 3 1/2 MARK of TRIBULATION WHICH also COINCIDES with DANIEL 12:1 WHERE you have SATAN being PERMANTLY REMOVED from heaven. WHERE Antichrist sets up his throne by which the FALSE PROPHET sets up worship of Antichrist and THE MARK 666. WHERE THE FIRST MARTYRS (BEHEADED) ARE IMMEDIATELY TRANSFERED TO HEAVEN SINCE THE RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. WHERE GOD UNLEASHES HIS EXTREME WRATH BEFORE ARMAGEDDON (REVELATIONS 9). ALSO...THE RAPTURE OF DANIELS PEOPLE THE 144,000.......
You bring forth much information with great errors. How about putting forth the verses or the verses you want to pull from here and there that say you will be raptured before the Great tribulation? This whole post is chaos. In the future try harder to be more organized.

THIS IS ACTUAL SCRIPTURE AT THE ACTUAL TIMELINE
WE CLEARLY SEE AS SOON AS THOSE WHO ARE BEHEADED AND NOT ACCEPT THE MARK 666
THEY IMMEDIATELY GO TO HEAVEN BECAUSE RESURRECTION OR RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE
WE ALSO SEE
YOUR MID-TRIPWHICH CLEARLY SHOWS US IS THE 144,000.......NOT THE BRIDE WHICH IS THE SAVED AND ALREADY RAPTURED

THIS CLEARLY SHOWS WE THE BRIDE / CHURCH WILL BE RAPTURED BEFORE TRIBULATION BEGINS
THE OTHER RAPTURES ARE CLEARLY 144,000 AND BEHEADED SAINTS AFTER THE 3 1/2 YEAR MARK OF TRIBULATION
I'm sorry but this is a catastrophic failure of sloppy Bible work.

 

[imoss]

its so disjointed to read all of the colors. wonder if i can select them & choose black & then read. gives me a headache. doesnt it hurt your eyes to post joint heir? Not that i'm complaining or anything lol!

 

[imoss]

QUOTE JOINT HEIR

"14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
When the GOSPEL is finally preached to everyone the end of the age of the BRIDE will come and JESUS WILL return for the dead in CHRIST and we that are still alive to be CAUGHT AWAY/RAPTURED
THEN
TRIBULATION BEGINS
BECAUSE
15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
THIS REPRESENT DANIEL 9:27
VERSE 27 speaks to the reference of MATTHEW 24:15 BEGINNING of TRIBULATION
27) And he (Antichrist) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week (7 YEARS): and in the midst (3 1/2 YEAR MARK) of the week he (Antichrist) shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease.......

PAY ATTENTION NOW

DANIEL 11:44-45 IS SPECIFIC THIS IS 3 1/2 YEAR MARK OF TRIBULATION BECAUSE ITS ABOUT ANTICHRIST SETTING UP HIS THRONE AND PRESENTING HIMSELF AS GOD ALMIGHTY.......

DANIEL 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up (REVELATIONS 12:7-9), the GREAT PRINCE (MICHAEL) which standeth for the children of thy people (DANIELS people the 144,000 or 12,000 per 12 tribes of Israel): and there shall be a time of trouble (WRATH of GOD) (REVELATION 9 demons from the bottomless pit (5TH TRUMPET) and the 200,000,000 demons trapped under EUPHRATES (6TH TRUMPET) TO BEGIN LAST 3 1/2 YEARS OF TRIBULATION), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and AT THAT TIME (3 1/2 YEAR MARK) THY PEOPLE (JEWS the 144,000) SHALL BE DELIVERED.......

ABOVE IS JOINT HEIR's post

ahhh. now i will read...


REVELATION 6:9-11 TRIBULATION BEHEADED SAINTS
REVELATIONS 6:12-17 GOD IN EXREME WRATH MODE THAT WONT END UNTIL AFTER ARMAGEDDON
REVELATIONS 7:1-8 144,000 JEWS OF THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL RAPTURED
REVELATIONS 7:9-17 EVERY SINGLE BEHEADED TRIBULATION SAINTS
REVELATIONS 12:7-9 MICHAEL PERMANTLY REMOVING SATAN FOREVER FROM HEAVEN

WHAT TRANSPIRES AROUND 3 1/2 YEAR MARK OF TRIBULATION ::: CLEARLY shows us the 3 1/2 MARK of TRIBULATION WHICH also COINCIDES with DANIEL 12:1 WHERE you have SATAN being PERMANTLY REMOVED from heaven. WHERE Antichrist sets up his throne by which the FALSE PROPHET sets up worship of Antichrist and THE MARK 666. WHERE THE FIRST MARTYRS (BEHEADED) ARE IMMEDIATELY TRANSFERED TO HEAVEN SINCE THE RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. WHERE GOD UNLEASHES HIS EXTREME WRATH BEFORE ARMAGEDDON (REVELATIONS 9). ALSO...THE RAPTURE OF DANIELS PEOPLE THE 144,000.......

THIS IS ACTUAL SCRIPTURE AT THE ACTUAL TIMELINE
WE CLEARLY SEE AS SOON AS THOSE WHO ARE BEHEADED AND NOT ACCEPT THE MARK 666
THEY IMMEDIATELY GO TO HEAVEN BECAUSE RESURRECTION OR RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE
WE ALSO SEE
YOUR MID-TRIPWHICH CLEARLY SHOWS US IS THE 144,000.......NOT THE BRIDE WHICH IS THE SAVED AND ALREADY RAPTURED

THIS CLEARLY SHOWS WE THE BRIDE / CHURCH WILL BE RAPTURED BEFORE TRIBULATION BEGINS
THE OTHER RAPTURES ARE CLEARLY 144,000 AND BEHEADED SAINTS AFTER THE 3 1/2 YEAR MARK OF TRIBULATION"


END JOINT HEIR QUOTE

Ah there now we can read it an respond without a headache.

 

[joint-heir]

Quite the interesting array of bits and pieces you put together. It almost wants to leave the reader in a hypnotic overload, I can see why you easily run into error. I will be OK though and we shall address these verses as to see were you have erred and as to why they don't align with the simplicity of Christ's teaching that is Matthew Chapter 24.

14And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
When the GOSPEL is finally preached to everyone the end of the age of the BRIDE will come and JESUS WILL return for the dead in CHRIST and we that are still alive to be CAUGHT AWAY/RAPTURED
THEN
TRIBULATION BEGINS
BECAUSE
Very good friend up until you go off out of nowhere and start ranting about rapture.



15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
THIS REPRESENT DANIEL 9:27
VERSE 27 speaks to the reference of MATTHEW 24:15 BEGINNING of TRIBULATION
27) And he (Antichrist) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week (7 YEARS): and in the midst (3 1/2 YEAR MARK) of the week he (Antichrist) shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease.......
OK, you want to pull out two verses of Matthew 24 and build your doctrine around those two verse. Yes, yes, I've seen this method used before many times. I'll tell you what we shall do, we shall next do a study on the 'Abomination of Desolation' and the readers will know why the rapurist can't hang his hat on this verse for they will see Daniel taught contrary to this false doctrine.


PAY ATTENTION NOW

DANIEL 11:44-45 IS SPECIFIC THIS IS 3 1/2 YEAR MARK OF TRIBULATION BECAUSE ITS ABOUT ANTICHRIST SETTING UP HIS THRONE AND PRESENTING HIMSELF AS GOD ALMIGHTY.......
Yes , He sets himself up as God. Does it say you will be "raptured away"? I'm sorry.

DANIEL 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up (REVELATIONS 12:7-9), the GREAT PRINCE (MICHAEL) which standeth for the children of thy people (DANIELS people the 144,000 or 12,000 per 12 tribes of Israel): and there shall be a time of trouble (WRATH of GOD) (REVELATION 9 demons from the bottomless pit (5TH TRUMPET) and the 200,000,000 demons trapped under EUPHRATES (6TH TRUMPET) TO BEGIN LAST 3 1/2 YEARS OF TRIBULATION), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and AT THAT TIME (3 1/2 YEAR MARK) THY PEOPLE (JEWS the 144,000) SHALL BE DELIVERED.......
Still not seeing the verse where where it said you were raptured away before the Great Tribulation begins.


REVELATION 6:9-11 TRIBULATION BEHEADED SAINTS
They were slain during the Great tribulation
No rapture here.

REVELATIONS 6:12-17 GOD IN EXREME WRATH MODE THAT WONT END UNTIL AFTER ARMAGEDDON
Very good, Gods wrath which is not for His children
No rapture here.

REVELATIONS 7:1-8 144,000 JEWS OF THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL RAPTURED
He said Israel not Jews. Do you not know that Judah is but one tribe of Israel? There are 11 others. Did you not notice this happens after God's wrath? I thought we were looking for your pre-trib rapture verses?

REVELATIONS 7:9-17 EVERY SINGLE BEHEADED TRIBULATION SAINTS
I guess you must of missed verse 13 and 14.
13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Still not seeing any pre-trib rapture verses.

REVELATIONS 12:7-9 MICHAEL PERMANTLY REMOVING SATAN FOREVER FROM HEAVEN
My goodness, do you even read the scripture you quote?
9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.


I guess you forgot to add the rapture before tribulation verses from Revelations, because I don't see any.


WHAT TRANSPIRES AROUND 3 1/2 YEAR MARK OF TRIBULATION ::: CLEARLY shows us the 3 1/2 MARK of TRIBULATION WHICH also COINCIDES with DANIEL 12:1 WHERE you have SATAN being PERMANTLY REMOVED from heaven. WHERE Antichrist sets up his throne by which the FALSE PROPHET sets up worship of Antichrist and THE MARK 666. WHERE THE FIRST MARTYRS (BEHEADED) ARE IMMEDIATELY TRANSFERED TO HEAVEN SINCE THE RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE. WHERE GOD UNLEASHES HIS EXTREME WRATH BEFORE ARMAGEDDON (REVELATIONS 9). ALSO...THE RAPTURE OF DANIELS PEOPLE THE 144,000.......
You bring forth much information with great errors. How about putting forth the verses or the verses you want to pull from here and there that say you will be raptured before the Great tribulation? This whole post is chaos. In the future try harder to be more organized.

THIS IS ACTUAL SCRIPTURE AT THE ACTUAL TIMELINE
WE CLEARLY SEE AS SOON AS THOSE WHO ARE BEHEADED AND NOT ACCEPT THE MARK 666
THEY IMMEDIATELY GO TO HEAVEN BECAUSE RESURRECTION OR RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE
WE ALSO SEE
YOUR MID-TRIPWHICH CLEARLY SHOWS US IS THE 144,000.......NOT THE BRIDE WHICH IS THE SAVED AND ALREADY RAPTURED

THIS CLEARLY SHOWS WE THE BRIDE / CHURCH WILL BE RAPTURED BEFORE TRIBULATION BEGINS
THE OTHER RAPTURES ARE CLEARLY 144,000 AND BEHEADED SAINTS AFTER THE 3 1/2 YEAR MARK OF TRIBULATION
I'm sorry but this is a catastrophic failure of sloppy Bible work.

NO
IM HAPPY WITH WHAT I PROVED ACCORDING TO FACTUAL TIME
SINCE IT IS SPECIFIC IN THE SCRIPTURES I HAVE USED ACCORDING TO WORD OF GOD

DANIEL 12:1 - REVELATIONS 14:1-5
144,000 IS CALLED THY PEOPLE IN KJV (NOT ISRAEL) AS YOU INSIST
AND ARE RAPTURED IN MID-TRIBULATION

REVELATIONS 6:9-11 AND 7:9-17
AND IT IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT MARTYRED (BEHEADED) WENT STRAIGHT TO HEAVEN
AND THIS COULD ONLY HAPPEN
ONCE THE BRIDE WAS ALREADY RAPTURED

DANIEL 11:44-45, 12:1 AND REVELATIONS 12:7-9
AND YES AT THE 3 1/2 MARK IT IS SPECIFIC ABOUT MICHAEL DEFEATING SATAN

IN FACT
EACH SCRIPTURE GIVEN NOT ONLY VERIFIES EACH OTHER
BUT
FILLS THE TIME LINE JESUS SPOKE ABOUT IN MATTHEW 24
SINCE
WE SEE THE PATTERN IN MATTHEW
WHERE JESUS IS SPECIFIC WHEN THE GOSPEL ENDS TRIBULATION BEGINS
AND THAT JUST AFTER MIDWAY THRU TRIBULATION
THE WRATH BECOMES GREAT TRIBULATION
UNTIL
ARMAGEDDON

BUT I UNDERSTAND THIS IS YOUR THREAD SO YOU JUST HAVE TO BE TOP DOG HEY I GET IT WHY CREATE SOMETHING AND GIVE IN WHEN YOU PUT YOUR NECK ON THE LINE TO CREATE THIS DRAMA IN THE FIRST PLACE.......EVEN WHEN YOUR WRONG.......

 

[miktre]

BUT I UNDERSTAND THIS IS YOUR THREAD SO YOU JUST HAVE TO BE TOP DOG HEY I GET IT WHY CREATE SOMETHING AND GIVE IN WHEN YOU PUT YOUR NECK ON THE LINE TO CREATE THIS DRAMA IN THE FIRST PLACE.......EVEN WHEN YOUR WRONG.......

Well friend, thanks for stopping by. Best of luck in your future studies. I guess we will agree to disagree. I'm not not only putting my neck on the line in this thread, I'm putting my very existence on the line, for those days approach friend and I don't want to see this happen to you either. Christ couldn't of been more adamant concerning the importance of this subject. Where I and every rapurist part is as to what rightly dividing the word of God looks like. I can't tell you how many of there studies I've seen where they grab a verse from here and there and it looks like they threw it in a blender and hit the puree button and they love it so. This is not about winning an argument this is about getting honest and serious and not putting forth half-hearted efforts with random scriptures. If you can't get honest, then you are wasting your time.


For your future reference the 144,000 are called Israel:
4And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

 

[greatkraw]

thank you for the stuff about holography

that is useful info

144000 are a literal 144000 jewish male virgins

 

[miktre]

thank you for the stuff about holography

that is useful info
Oh your welcome, pretty interesting how after they water boarded the muslim terrorist and then later that night holographed allah in his cell telling him to corporate so his brothers don't get tortured.
You know they have a Christ program they can dial up or a Al Gore program.


144000 are a literal 144000 jewish male virgins
Hmmm you will have to show me that scripture because I clearly read only 12,000 were from the house of Judah and the rest were 11 other children of Israel.

 

[greatkraw]

you playing Cups games with the 12 tribes?

how many tribes in the sth kingdom?'

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

you playing Cups games with the 12 tribes?

how many tribes in the sth kingdom?'

Benjamin and Judah some Levites.

 

[greatkraw]

Benjamin and Judah some Levites.

and SIMEON!!!!

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

and SIMEON!!!!

first dynastic period territory with Hebron as capital, but it changed of course because only Benjamin and Judah went into Babylonian captivity but Simeon went with Israel into Assyrian captivity and did not return, interestingly Jerusalem was in Benjiman territory, of course there was a united kingdom of all twelve tribes in 1030-930 BC.