Catholic Heresy (for the record)

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Nov 14, 2012
2,113
4
0

Yet scripture confirms every one of those is true, But only because YOUR CHURCH excepts one, You will never be convinced the others are true, no matter what scripture you are shown.


If your blind, or closed minded. you can be led by the hand to the proof. You will still deny it and claim it does not say this, this goes for ANYONE, not just catholics.
Scripture please, not insults
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
Scripture please, not insults
you have been shown the scripture.

you still deny john 6 and everything jesus said EVERYONE who ate whet he came to give them would recieve,

You scream at insults, yet your ONLY argument against john 6 to me was an insult. so now your a hypocrite.
 
Nov 14, 2012
2,113
4
0
you have been shown the scripture.

you still deny john 6 and everything jesus said EVERYONE who ate whet he came to give them would recieve,

You scream at insults, yet your ONLY argument against john 6 to me was an insult. so now your a hypocrite.
We already discussed John 6 and i told you its not valid if not consecrated. How is this an insult? You have repeatedly called me blind and i see well thank you! I see your hypocrisy and heresy
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
We already discussed John 6 and i told you its not valid if not consecrated.
Yep you did. You insulted not only myself. but the Lord Jesus, who made those promises, and never demanded they be "consecreated" meaning you added to the word of God.

How is this an insult? You have repeatedly called me blind and i see well thank you! I see your hypocrisy and heresy
No, Your the hypocrite. Your in a BIBLE DISCUSSION forum, But according to you. no one else here has valid interpretation skills.

How can one discuss the word of God if they do not habe valid interpretation skills?

Your church started it, Don;t get mad when your get what your church has handed out since the 300's AD.
 

notuptome

Senior Member
May 17, 2013
15,050
2,538
113
We already discussed John 6 and i told you its not valid if not consecrated. How is this an insult? You have repeatedly called me blind and i see well thank you! I see your hypocrisy and heresy
Not consecrated? That pretty much means superstitious in Romanism. The wizard priest casts his spell over the wine and the wafer so that they become real flesh and blood. Here they make the grace of God into a myth that they have created to serve their own interests so they shame and profane God who is Holy.

A sincerely disgusting practice and never sanctioned by the Lord Jesus. The measure of grace is given by God not by men.

Except you be born again you cannot see the kingdom of God. Born from above not by ritual or rites which are below but by believing in the word of God who descended from heaven and lived among men.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
Nov 14, 2012
2,113
4
0
Yep you did. You insulted not only myself. but the Lord Jesus, who made those promises, and never demanded they be "consecreated" meaning you added to the word of God.



No, Your the hypocrite. Your in a BIBLE DISCUSSION forum, But according to you. no one else here has valid interpretation skills.

How can one discuss the word of God if they do not habe valid interpretation skills?

Your church started it, Don;t get mad when your get what your church has handed out since the 300's AD.
Whoah, calm down cowboy! Consider this, Jesus is the High Priest of the line of Melchizedek. Melchizedek consecrated the bread and wine he gave to Abraham and in the same manner at thr Last Supper, the first mass, Our Lord did the same thing! And gave the power of transubstantiation to the Apostles who then gave it to the clergy. By Jesus own example a lay person cannot consecrate the host or wine. Its in the bible
 
May 30, 2015
1,179
7
0
Whoah, calm down cowboy! Consider this, Jesus is the High Priest of the line of Melchizedek. Melchizedek consecrated the bread and wine he gave to Abraham and in the same manner at thr Last Supper, the first mass, Our Lord did the same thing! And gave the power of transubstantiation to the Apostles who then gave it to the clergy. By Jesus own example a lay person cannot consecrate the host or wine. Its in the bible
There is no such thing as "the power of transubstantiation".

Whatever power the "clergy" has, all believers have!
 

Jackson123

Senior Member
Feb 6, 2014
11,769
1,371
113
Whoah, calm down cowboy! Consider this, Jesus is the High Priest of the line of Melchizedek. Melchizedek consecrated the bread and wine he gave to Abraham and in the same manner at thr Last Supper, the first mass, Our Lord did the same thing! And gave the power of transubstantiation to the Apostles who then gave it to the clergy. By Jesus own example a lay person cannot consecrate the host or wine. Its in the bible
show me the verse that say consecrated.
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
Whoah, calm down cowboy! Consider this, Jesus is the High Priest of the line of Melchizedek. Melchizedek consecrated the bread and wine he gave to Abraham and in the same manner at thr Last Supper, the first mass, Our Lord did the same thing! And gave the power of transubstantiation to the Apostles who then gave it to the clergy. By Jesus own example a lay person cannot consecrate the host or wine. Its in the bible
No, your the one who needs to calm down. You assume the bread of John 6 is the same bread of the last supper Yet it does not fit.

Jesus never said a person who ate the bread of the last supper would be assured ANY of the things he promised in john 6. In fact, jesus said at the last supper to do it OFTEN, in remembrance of him. So it could not be the "food which endured forever" which one could eat and never die, live forever, never hunger or thirst, and the rest of what he said in John 6.

finally. Jesus prayed and asked God to bless. thats all. Sorry my firend, but according to the the word of god, I can do that, because I am a king and priest until my God.

But non of that matters, It is not the same food.. if it does not give what Jesus promised in john 6, then it is not the same food. period. No matter what ANYONE says.
 
Nov 14, 2012
2,113
4
0
show me the verse that say consecrated.
Meclchizedek took the bread and wine and offered thanks and praise. Jesus took the bread and wine and offered thanks and praise. This is consecration and can only be done by a priest.
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
There is no such thing as "the power of transubstantiation".

Whatever power the "clergy" has, all believers have!
Revelation 1:6
and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
Meclchizedek took the bread and wine and offered thanks and praise. Jesus took the bread and wine and offered thanks and praise. This is consecration and can only be done by a priest.

I do not see the word consecrate, your adding to the word.

I am a priest to God. God made me one. the office of priesthood being only certain people died with the law.
 
Nov 14, 2012
2,113
4
0
No, your the one who needs to calm down. You assume the bread of John 6 is the same bread of the last supper Yet it does not fit.

Jesus never said a person who ate the bread of the last supper would be assured ANY of the things he promised in john 6. In fact, jesus said at the last supper to do it OFTEN, in remembrance of him. So it could not be the "food which endured forever" which one could eat and never die, live forever, never hunger or thirst, and the rest of what he said in John 6.

finally. Jesus prayed and asked God to bless. thats all. Sorry my firend, but according to the the word of god, I can do that, because I am a king and priest until my God.

But non of that matters, It is not the same food.. if it does not give what Jesus promised in john 6, then it is not the same food. period. No matter what ANYONE says.
What food are you talking about oh so enlightened one? teach us the mysteries of the universe oh enlightened one!!!!! LOL
 
May 30, 2015
1,179
7
0
Meclchizedek took the bread and wine and offered thanks and praise. Jesus took the bread and wine and offered thanks and praise. This is consecration and can only be done by a priest.
Well, of course that is a lie you have chosen to believe. I can take the bread and the cup and I can also bless it and partake of it, for the word of God tells me I am a priest like Jesus.

There is no such priesthood in scripture for us except the priesthood that we have in Jesus Christ. The power you give to men who call themselves priests is a false ideation...and dangerous, spiritually, to those who follow that line of religious thinking and practice.
 
Nov 14, 2012
2,113
4
0

I do not see the word consecrate, your adding to the word.

I am a priest to God. God made me one. the office of priesthood being only certain people died with the law.
So you can just push your pastor, if you have one, aside and start preaching to the congregation? Good Luck with that!
 
Nov 14, 2012
2,113
4
0
Well, of course that is a lie you have chosen to believe. I can take the bread and the cup and I can also bless it and partake of it, for the word of God tells me I am a priest like Jesus.

There is no such priesthood in scripture for us except the priesthood that we have in Jesus Christ. The power you give to men who call themselves priests is a false ideation...and dangerous, spiritually, to those who follow that line of religious thinking and practice.
I strongly disagree. You are not of the Apostolic succession, that flows all the way to the modern day clergy. Sorry, but you are not. Neither am i
 
May 30, 2015
1,179
7
0
So you can just push your pastor, if you have one, aside and start preaching to the congregation? Good Luck with that!
One who has been gifted with the gift of pastor and of teaching can certainly use it when he is called upon to do so. No one is to ever "push aside" or usurp the position of pastor or any spiritual leader to try to promote oneself.
 
May 30, 2015
1,179
7
0
I strongly disagree. You are not of the Apostolic succession, that flows all the way to the modern day clergy. Sorry, but you are not. Neither am i
There is no such thing as any "apostolic succession". No one you consider of the "apostolic succession" really is. It's merely religion run amok.
 
Nov 14, 2012
2,113
4
0
Not consecrated? That pretty much means superstitious in Romanism. The wizard priest casts his spell over the wine and the wafer so that they become real flesh and blood. Here they make the grace of God into a myth that they have created to serve their own interests so they shame and profane God who is Holy.

A sincerely disgusting practice and never sanctioned by the Lord Jesus. The measure of grace is given by God not by men.

Except you be born again you cannot see the kingdom of God. Born from above not by ritual or rites which are below but by believing in the word of God who descended from heaven and lived among men.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Just rude and ignorant like always
 
Nov 14, 2012
2,113
4
0
There is no such thing as any "apostolic succession". No one you consider of the "apostolic succession" really is. It's merely religion run amok.
That is entirely YOUR opinion