Catholic Heresy (for the record)

[KenAllan]

Yes we can know if a person has received Salvation mwc68. However there is more to being a True Christ then just receiving Salvation.

Galatians 5:16-21
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Idolatry and Heresies will keep you out of Heaven mwc68.

When you pray the Rosary to Mary you are making her your Idol which is Idolatry. If you continue to pray the Rosary you will not be allowed to inherit the Kingdom of God mwc68.

Heresy is the teaching that Baptism gives us Salvation. If you continue to teach Doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church that are not from the Holy Spirit, they are Heresies mwc68.

Look carefully at the list of sins in verses 19, 20, and 21 mwc68. If you continue to do any of these, not stopping, you cannot inherit the kingdom of God. Even if you have Salvation mwc68, God cannot allow you to enter into Heaven.

Galatians 5:22-25
[SUP]22 [/SUP] But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
[SUP]23 [/SUP] gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
[SUP]25 [/SUP] If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

You need to walk in the Spirit mwc68. How can you say you are walking in the Spirit if you teach the Doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church as truths from God?

Its not just receiving Salvation mwc68, its also about walking in the Spirit which you are not doing when you teach the false doctrines of The Roman Catholic Church.

The conclusion is even if you have received Salvation mwc68 you will not be allowed into Heaven if you continue in your sins which are listed in Galatians 5:22-25.

 

[jaybird88]

If there is any hate it is hate for a supposed church which has a record and doctrines which are so evil that they have to be hated. It is not hatred for people. As for the owner of the site. It is perfectly right that he should make clear the basis on which the site operates. It is not here to promulgate the heresies of the Roman Catholic church, and indeed stands firmly against them. He would do wrong NOT to oppose them. If he did not the blood of anyone deceived by them would be on his hands.

you can of course make any hate threads you like if you have hatred in your heart. We who uphold truth know nothing of such hatred..

i hate to have to tell you this but there is not a religion on the planet that is perfect. call it what you want but it is a hate thread plane and simple based on the personal opinions of one person. to say that every single Catholic on the planet is a heretic and not serving the Lord properly is very shameful. an individuals heart and devotion to the Almighty is no ones business but there own and our Lord is the only one that can judge that. you people put all your faith in dogmas, traditions and laws of man and forget the word itself. the word has no religion label. do you really think at the gates of heaven they have multiple gates for different religions?

 

[mwc68]

Yes we can know if a person has received Salvation mwc68. However there is more to being a True Christ then just receiving Salvation.

Galatians 5:16-21
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
[SUP]20 [/SUP] idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Idolatry and Heresies will keep you out of Heaven mwc68.

When you pray the Rosary to Mary you are making her your Idol which is Idolatry. If you continue to pray the Rosary you will not be allowed to inherit the Kingdom of God mwc68.

Heresy is the teaching that Baptism gives us Salvation. If you continue to teach Doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church that are not from the Holy Spirit, they are Heresies mwc68.

Look carefully at the list of sins in verses 19, 20, and 21 mwc68. If you continue to do any of these, not stopping, you cannot inherit the kingdom of God. Even if you have Salvation mwc68, God cannot allow you to enter into Heaven.

Galatians 5:22-25
[SUP]22 [/SUP] But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
[SUP]23 [/SUP] gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
[SUP]25 [/SUP] If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

You need to walk in the Spirit mwc68. How can you say you are walking in the Spirit if you teach the Doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church as truths from God?

Its not just receiving Salvation mwc68, its also about walking in the Spirit which you are not doing when you teach the false doctrines of The Roman Catholic Church.

The conclusion is even if you have received Salvation mwc68 you will not be allowed into Heaven if you continue in your sins which are listed in Galatians 5:22-25.

I don't don't think you understand what idols are. Watch your own sinful self.

 

[FancyNancy]

I don't don't think you understand what idols are. Watch your own sinful self.

Truly, catholic people are not ones to talk about idols.

 

[mwc68]

Truly, catholic people are not ones to talk about idols.

The way I understand it, idols are worshipped over God. We don't do this. Ya'll have convinced youselves we do, but through my experience we don't. That's the problem with standing outside looking in. You assume way to much

 

[Jackson123]

The way I understand it, idols are worshipped over God. We don't do this. Ya'll have convinced youselves we do, but through my experience we don't. That's the problem with standing outside looking in. You assume way to much

2.Bible.

• an image of a deity other than God.
• the deity itself.

3.any person or thing regarded with blindadmiration, adoration, or devotion:Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.


4.a mere image or semblance of something, visiblebut without substance, as a phantom.

5.a figment of the mind; fantasy.

6.a false conception or notion; fallacy.

 

[valiant]

i hate to have to tell you this but there is not a religion on the planet that is perfect. call it what you want but it is a hate thread plane and simple based on the personal opinions of one person. to say that every single Catholic on the planet is a heretic and not serving the Lord properly is very shameful. an individuals heart and devotion to the Almighty is no ones business but there own and our Lord is the only one that can judge that. you people put all your faith in dogmas, traditions and laws of man and forget the word itself. the word has no religion label. do you really think at the gates of heaven they have multiple gates for different religions?

you are clearly a mixed up kid, but on one thing you are quite right, ALL religions are wrong. It is only the truth about Jesus Christ and His salvation which saves and that is not a religion. Once religion is introduced, as with the heretical Roman Catholic church, the truth is marred.

To suggest that the thread is based only on the opinion of one man is so stupid that I am surprised that you would publicly say it. It simply shows you up for a fool. Rather it expresses the mature and convinced view of large numbers of Christians.

Every Roman Catholic on the planet who holds the views of the Roman Catholic church IS a heretic. That is one of the certainties of life. For that church is weighed down with heresies. That is demonstrable beyond doubt.

As regards the gates of Heaven no religion will see anyone through it. There will be only one way through. And that will be by SOLE and personal dependence on Jesus Christ as a living Saviour Who declares a man righteous by faith alone, and recreates him by the Holy Spirit. As Jesus said, there will be many who will approach the gates of Heaven confident that they will be accepted because of their religious views and practises, only to be turned away..

 

[mwc68]

you are clearly a mixed up kid, but on one thing you are quite right, ALL religions are wrong. It is only the truth about Jesus Christ and His salvation which saves and that is not a religion. Once religion is introduced, as with the heretical Roman Catholic church, the truth is marred.

To suggest that the thread is based only on the opinion of one man is so stupid that I am surprised that you would publicly say it. It simply shows you up for a fool. Rather it expresses the mature and convinced view of large numbers of Christians.

Every Roman Catholic on the planet who holds the views of the Roman Catholic church IS a heretic. That is one of the certainties of life. For that church is weighed down with heresies. That is demonstrable beyond doubt.

As regards the gates of Heaven no religion will see anyone through it. There will be only one way through. And that will be by SOLE and personal dependence on Jesus Christ as a living Saviour Who declares a man righteous by faith alone, and recreates him by the Holy Spirit. As Jesus said, there will be many who will approach the gates of Heaven confident that they will be accepted because of their religious views and practises, only to be turned away..

Certainty to you and your bible worshipping friends. To the rest of us, no

 

[jaybird88]

you are clearly a mixed up kid, but on one thing you are quite right, ALL religions are wrong. It is only the truth about Jesus Christ and His salvation which saves and that is not a religion. Once religion is introduced, as with the heretical Roman Catholic church, the truth is marred.

To suggest that the thread is based only on the opinion of one man is so stupid that I am surprised that you would publicly say it. It simply shows you up for a fool. Rather it expresses the mature and convinced view of large numbers of Christians.

Every Roman Catholic on the planet who holds the views of the Roman Catholic church IS a heretic. That is one of the certainties of life. For that church is weighed down with heresies. That is demonstrable beyond doubt.

As regards the gates of Heaven no religion will see anyone through it. There will be only one way through. And that will be by SOLE and personal dependence on Jesus Christ as a living Saviour Who declares a man righteous by faith alone, and recreates him by the Holy Spirit. As Jesus said, there will be many who will approach the gates of Heaven confident that they will be accepted because of their religious views and practises, only to be turned away..

yes i get very mixed up when i hear people say all religions are wrong but thats ok cause we are only gonna bad mouth this one and ignore the rest.
Every Roman Catholic on the planet who holds the views of the Roman Catholic church IS a heretic
and now you are making my argument for me. being catholic does not make you a heretic. following corrupt leaders does, corrupt leaders are in all religions. this is true with many religions not Catholics.
i have been a member of a baptist church all my life. do i agree with all their doctrines? no, but i will always be a member cause its the culture in my area and family. i have read about corrupt baptist leaders that have turned from our Lord, but what is that to me when i dont follow them?

 

[KenAllan]

Mary is an Idol in the Roman Catholic Church mwc68.

The Roman Catholic Church teaches God could not keep Jesus Christ without sin. The Roman Catholic Church teaches only Mary by being without sin had the power to keep Jesus Christ without sin.

Therefore the conclusion can only be that the Roman Catholic Church believes Mary is greater than God because only she could keep Jesus Christ without sin and God could not.

Which makes Mary an Idol to the Roman Catholics.

Therefore no Roman Catholic can ever enter into Heaven because Mary is an Idol they follow. Even the Popes have bowed down to a statue of Mary. Every Pope who has bowed down to this Idol will never enter into Heaven mwc68.

Pope John Paul II can never enter into Heaven mwc68 because he glorified Mary over God.

Pope John Paul II will spend Eternity in the Lake of Fire mwc68.

I do know what Idols are mwc68 because i was born and raised in the Roman Catholic Church. You might be able to deceive others but I know what The Roman Catholic Church does mwc68 and teaches.

Its Mary that is the focus of the Roman Catholics. Many a times I was told by the Roman Catholic Priests to pray the Hail Mary over and over again for hours on end. When you pray the Hail Mary you are addressing Mary as a God mwc68. Which makes Mary an Idol mwc68.

The problem is you cannot see the Truth mwc68 because your eyes have been blinded by Satan.

Since you cannot see the Truth and you are sinning continuously even with Salvation will keep you out of Heaven mwc68. Read Galatians 5:16-25 mwc68 and see what the Holy Spirit says about you and others who keep on sinning willingly.

 

[Jackson123]

our duty as a christian is to love.

what is love.

If I know one walking toward the abyss, and we say you are OK that is hatred though look like love and tolerant

If one follow heretic and we not say anything, it is hatred and not love.

though if we say the truth people mad and accused us as to judge.

when one say Jesus is the only savior, it mean mohammad, or other is not the savior, is that mean to judge? No it mean to love to tell the truth so people not the real savior and save for ever and ever.

Don't confused between love, judge and hatred.


Say catholic is heresy is to love.

Say catholic not heresy is hatred.

 

[mwc68]

2.Bible.

• an image of a deity other than God.
• the deity itself.

3.any person or thing regarded with blindadmiration, adoration, or devotion:Madame Curie had been her childhood idol.


4.a mere image or semblance of something, visiblebut without substance, as a phantom.

5.a figment of the mind; fantasy.

6.a false conception or notion; fallacy.

I've always known you don't understand idols and just look at pictures. People like you stand outside and moan and groan with your assumptions that we worship idols. None of this do we place above God! So your idol umm theory is gone! WE DON'T WORSHIP IDOLS! Get off this stupid road you are on

 

[mwc68]

I bow to the altar in respest. Now, Jackson, are you gonna say I worship the altar? Get a clue dude!

 

[Jackson123]

I've always known you don't understand idols and just look at pictures. People like you stand outside and moan and groan with your assumptions that we worship idols. None of this do we place above God! So your idol umm theory is gone! WE DON'T WORSHIP IDOLS! Get off this stupid road you are on

Say the word car. what is mean.

To me I rather look for dictionary.

Same with the word Idol, I look the dictionary and I post it.

Do you make your own definition of Idol?

Why ? So with you definition you able to say that Catholic not worship Idol?

 

[mwc68]

YJackson, you need to rid yourself of any Christian paraphenalia! According to you it is idol worship and you are in danger of being a hypocrite

 

[Tankman131]

what is love.

BABY DON'T HURT ME!

I've always known you don't understand idols and just look at pictures. People like you stand outside and moan and groan with your assumptions that we worship idols. None of this do we place above God! So your idol umm theory is gone! WE DON'T WORSHIP IDOLS! Get off this stupid road you are on

>Catholic: "NUH UH WE DON'T WORSHIP IDOLS."
>Logical Person: "Then why do you worship Mary? Why do you pray to idols of humans? Why do you receive forgiveness from anyone, but God?"
>Catholic: "WE DON'T WORSHIP IDOLS! LISTEN AND BELIEVE! DON'T QUESTION US OR ELSE YOU GO TO HELL! PUT A DOLLAR IN THE BOX FOR SALVATION!"
>Logical Person: "..."

 

[Jackson123]

I bow to the altar in respest. Now, Jackson, are you gonna say I worship the altar? Get a clue dude!

That why you have to worship the Lord with the spirit and truth. Not depend on physical appearance, or legal ritual.

If I pray in front of computer it doesn't mean I warship computer.

If I go in front of Mary statue and Pray, ask Mary to help me, that is worship Idol.


If I bow in front of Mary statue and say this pray bellow, I worship Idol.

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Prayers To the Virgin Mary​

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Song of Mary Praise Gratitude, 1992, No. 18
I glorify God
my heart rejoiced, for God Savior.
For he noticed me,
His servant lowly.
From now on I called happy,
by all nations.
For great deeds done for me by the Almighty,
consecrate his name.
Perkasalah deed of his hand,
His scattered the proud heart.
People who derived his power from the throne,
that his lowly lifted.
His hungry people nourished with kindness,
rich people put them away empty-handed.
According to his promise to our fathers,
God has helped his servant Israel.
For the sake of his affection to Abraham and his descendants,
for ever.
Glory ...
Angel of the Lord Praise, 1992, No. 15
Maria was given the news by the Angel of the Lord,
that she would conceive of the Holy Spirit.
Hail Mary ...
I am the servant of God,
happened to me according to your word.

Hail Mary ...

Word was made flesh,
and lived among us.
Hail Mary ...

Pray for us, O Santa Mother of God,
so that we can enjoy the promise of Christ.
Prayer:
Ya Allah, because angels news we know that Jesus Christ thy Son became man; pour out your grace into our hearts, that because of his passion and cross, we were taken to the glorious resurrection. Because He is God, our mediator. Amen
Soul litany Maria
Maria souls, purify me.
Heart of Mary, kindle me.
Hand Maria, sanggahlah me.
Mary's feet, lead me.
Lips Maria, said to me.
Grief Maria, strengthen me.
O sweet Mary, listen to me.
Do not let me separate from you.
Against my enemies, Defend me.
Lead me to Jesus sweet. Hopefully together with thee, I can love and love my neighbor, and praise for ever. Amen
Submission Prayer To Mary Hymn Bakti, 1991, No. 52
Santa Maria, Mother of our Lord Jesus Christ, thou Queen's noblest. now with God becomes queen us all. Tunjukanlah to us the way to holiness and guide us so as not to get lost.
Take charge of our minds, so we're just looking for the right one.
Will be over us, so that we only want the good.
Take charge of our hearts, that we love one another as a brother.
Overcome ourselves each and all members of the family.
Overcome all members of society, every nation and world dignitaries.
Now with God strap them all in unity unwavering.
Overcome all mankind.
Bukakanlah way of faith for those who are not familiar with your Son, Jesus.
Help her to all nations united, harmonious and peaceful life.
Naungilah all mankind, especially the persecuted and pursued.
And be they in oppression and enlighten those in darkness, in order to remain faithful to Jesus, your son.
Hantarlah all of our petition to your Son, the Maharaja kingdom of peace, where each prayer petition is granted, each load lightened hearts and infirmities healed.
hopefully someone who knows his power and put hope in Him. occasionally see royal pomp thy Son, who with the Father and the Holy Spirit is living and powerful, and all-time now. Amen

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[mwc68]

Say the word car. what is mean.

To me I rather look for dictionary.

Same with the word Idol, I look the dictionary and I post it.

Do you make your own definition of Idol?

Why ? So with you definition you able to say that Catholic not worship Idol?

I know you don't understand English. Once again, We don't Worship idols. What don't you understand about this? I can't do sign language

 

[FancyNancy]

Anyone who is given Jesus' seat to sit in is an idol.

Jesus is our sole mediator and intercessor. The second someone decides it's a good thing to beseech Mary, or any dead saint for favour from God, one has immedately been charged with idolatry.

 

[FancyNancy]

I bow to the altar in respest. Now, Jackson, are you gonna say I worship the altar? Get a clue dude!

Jesus is my altar.