Young Earth Creation. Does it matter what you believe?
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In my mind, JackH doesn't even really exist. Not that she is a robot, but whoever that JackH person is, I don't buy for a minute it's a 98 year old he, so that person is a lost cause for now.
Bowman? Bowman hasn't rubbed me the wrong way nonstop. I don't know what's up with Bowman, but not a lost cause yet. I don't think he's connected to JackH like a wing man. I think Bowman just has an opinion quite a bit like JackH, so is rallying on that opinion without yet noticing who he is rallying with. Or, not a lost cause for me. More of an undecided.
Bowman? Bowman hasn't rubbed me the wrong way nonstop. I don't know what's up with Bowman, but not a lost cause yet. I don't think he's connected to JackH like a wing man. I think Bowman just has an opinion quite a bit like JackH, so is rallying on that opinion without yet noticing who he is rallying with. Or, not a lost cause for me. More of an undecided.
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Nice theory. I bought that one at one time myself, but the problems with it killed it.
God made "man" on the 6th day, right? And then the second way he told the story (Gen. 2) the man had a name -- Adam. Adam lived to be 930 years old. (Did I finally get his age right, TinTin? I think I did.) Any which way Adam is the father of all humans. (That's said somewhere else, but I can't remember the passage clear enough to find it right now.) So, if there was another dude before Adam, he never had kids. If Man was never to die in Eden, then Adam stopped being the first man, and First Man ought to have run into Adam and Eve somewhere along the line. And biggest problem with that theory... why? Why create some dude who never had kids, never had any more mention, and nothing ever happened to him, if Adam was the guy that started it all?
Nice theory. It simply doesn't work well, and it's only purpose is to make evolution and creation try to fit into the same boat. That's something like trying to get a seal to fit into human shoes. It just can't happen, nor does it make the seal anymore human for the effort.
God made "man" on the 6th day, right? And then the second way he told the story (Gen. 2) the man had a name -- Adam. Adam lived to be 930 years old. (Did I finally get his age right, TinTin? I think I did.) Any which way Adam is the father of all humans. (That's said somewhere else, but I can't remember the passage clear enough to find it right now.) So, if there was another dude before Adam, he never had kids. If Man was never to die in Eden, then Adam stopped being the first man, and First Man ought to have run into Adam and Eve somewhere along the line. And biggest problem with that theory... why? Why create some dude who never had kids, never had any more mention, and nothing ever happened to him, if Adam was the guy that started it all?
Nice theory. It simply doesn't work well, and it's only purpose is to make evolution and creation try to fit into the same boat. That's something like trying to get a seal to fit into human shoes. It just can't happen, nor does it make the seal anymore human for the effort.
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the theory that fossils were laid down by noah's flood predates white and price by hundreds of years...which has already been pointed out several times...flood geology doesn't 'trace back to' white in any way other than that she is one of numerous people who endorsed that view...her actual contribution to flood geology is exactly zero...
the 'vapor canopy' might be the only thing white or price actually came up with on their own...but i haven't researched the history of that particular idea to see if anyone else came up with it first... in any case the vapor canopy model is mostly discarded by modern young earth creation scientists due to a number of problems it creates...though a few such as dr. larry vardiman are still open to the concept...but with major changes that price would not have foreseen...
the 'vapor canopy' might be the only thing white or price actually came up with on their own...but i haven't researched the history of that particular idea to see if anyone else came up with it first... in any case the vapor canopy model is mostly discarded by modern young earth creation scientists due to a number of problems it creates...though a few such as dr. larry vardiman are still open to the concept...but with major changes that price would not have foreseen...
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You're mistaking me for a scholar of ancient words. I'm not. Try and put this into more English, because "bara" makes me imagine a deli (bodega), a club (bar), something that measures weather (barameter), or a badly typoed brassiere. lol
(I'm not going to go educate myself on a word not even placed into context, just to pretend I'm a scholar. Much easier just to admit, I'm not an ancient language scholar.)
(I'm not going to go educate myself on a word not even placed into context, just to pretend I'm a scholar. Much easier just to admit, I'm not an ancient language scholar.)
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Posthuman and Age of Knowledge can be/are good company. JackH is a genuine troll. I'm not asking you to change your mind. I'm suggesting watch out for the company you're keeping in one instance. If this weren't the virtual world, I'd be pointing to JackH's ankle monitor. Something bad is showing in one of the people you're keeping company with.
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Re: Run from it...
actually i haven't 'narrowed down' anything...i already specifically referred to hugh ross' assertions about neanderthals in my original post a long time ago...
so -now- you can stop trying to misdirect and instead go back and actually respond to the points i made in that post which you increasingly clearly did not actually read...
actually i haven't 'narrowed down' anything...i already specifically referred to hugh ross' assertions about neanderthals in my original post a long time ago...
so -now- you can stop trying to misdirect and instead go back and actually respond to the points i made in that post which you increasingly clearly did not actually read...
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Actually, I think discussing a single word as if it really was the same word is silly all together since the OT is in Ancient Hebrew and the NT in in Ancient Greek. (I am no scholar when it comes to ancient languages, but at least I know words are different if two different languages. Kind of why Strong's doesn't list it under the same number. It's not the same exact word.)
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Meh. Linguists and archaeologists have gotten better at finding more and more old MSS to figure out words in original context. We've come a long way since Jerome, although I do admire the guy for trying to translate what he had by hand (no Internet, no bank of like-minded scholars to debate with, not even a typewriter, etc.) to his native language.