Pride goes before destruction

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Matthew 12:35-37 "A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.[SUP]36 [/SUP]But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
[SUP]37 [/SUP]For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." :)
 
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Paul said (through the Holy Ghost)

1 Cr 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth.
Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

He did not say that wicked person was a someone that was without but of a someone that was within (this person being among themselves). Paul called him that wicked person (presently fornicating) which is according to the unrepentant state of the man doing the same alongside of 1 Cr 5:11 (that which is called a brother) they were told to put away that wicked person from among themselves.

Nowadays they might want to get rid of whoever adresses wickedness but at least there we see Paul call such a man among them "that wicked person" who was a fornicator ( called a brother) who was within, who Paul told in 1 Cr 5:11 not to even eat with such a one, even a railer (which is actually more common among them) and in the same sentence being adressed by Paul as "that wicked person".

The wicked were among his own people back then, but even so it is now as Paul showed

Jerm 5:26 For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares;they set a trap, they catch men.

Just as there were false prophets (then) even so now (2 Peter 2:1). Just as he that persecuted the one born of the promise (then, as shown in Isaac Gal 4:29) Paul said, even so, now.

Just as in the last days there would be false accusers 2 Ti 3:3 despisers of them that are good.

And all of this in places unable to endure sound doctrine, which happens in and among the religious sphere of things.

Mockers who follow their own lusts and those that heap up teachers after their own lusts. Its pretty clear that self denial will not be popular with such (and among such) in the last of days.



How do we deny ourselves? By being filled with the spirit and walking in the Spirit.

Living the spiritual life is not consciously denying ourselves. We just are denying ourselves if we are living the spiritual life.It results in self denial.

Self denial is not living the spiritual life.......this is the deception, this is the last days deception. It is so close to the truth,it has "Jesus" involved and nice sweet people. And it plays on our lust of the flesh to be good(human good/evil) on our own.
 
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How do we deny ourselves? By being filled with the spirit and walking in the Spirit.

Living the spiritual life is not consciously denying ourselves. We just are denying ourselves if we are living the spiritual life.It results in self denial.

Self denial is not living the spiritual life.......this is the deception, this is the last days deception. It is so close to the truth,it has "Jesus" involved and nice sweet people. And it plays on our lust of the flesh to be good(human good/evil) on our own.
Which verse or part is deception?

Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
 
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Which verse or part is deception?

Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
If you look close and don't read "self denial" into this verse it backs up my post perfectly.

If we are filled with the Spirit, we will not be doing the deeds of the flesh.

Being filled with the Spirit RESULTS in self denial.

Self denial(living in the flesh) does NOT CAUSE us to be filled with the Spirit.
 
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If you look close and don't read "self denial" into this verse it backs up my post perfectly.

If we are filled with the Spirit, we will not be doing the deeds of the flesh.

Being filled with the Spirit RESULTS in self denial.

Self denial(living in the flesh) does NOT CAUSE us to be filled with the Spirit.
Jesus taught deny yourself as grace does

Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Thats what the apostles taught

I still dont understand where the deception is in my post, can you point it out for me?
 
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