Is Vatican work for the devil?

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Rev 13 talking about the future one Leader that have power to all nation./one world governtment.


Now according to Forbes Magazine, Vatican work for it.


Is that mean Pope work for Devil government?

Revelation Chapter 13


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[SUP]1[/SUP] And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
[SUP]2[/SUP] And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
[SUP]3[/SUP] And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
[SUP]4[/SUP] And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
[SUP]5[/SUP] And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
[SUP]6[/SUP] And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
[SUP]7[/SUP] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
[SUP]8[/SUP] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
[SUP]9[/SUP] If any man have an ear, let him hear.
[SUP]10[/SUP] He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
[SUP]11[/SUP] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[SUP]12[/SUP] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[SUP]13[/SUP] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[SUP]14[/SUP] And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[SUP]15[/SUP] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[SUP]16[/SUP] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[SUP]17[/SUP] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18[/SUP] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.




The Vatican Calls for World Government



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That isn’t just the implication it’s the explicit call in the latest from the Vatican: that we need to move to a system of world government:
If Vatican cardinals have yet to join the Occupy Wall Street protesters, a document released by the Holy See calling for a “world authority” to crack down on capitalism suggests some are considering it.
Alphaville has a bit of fun quoting scripture back at them here. The full (although preliminary translation) statement is here.
As someone educated and raised a Catholic I can tell you what the problem is here. It’s the otherworldly parts of the Vatican’s worldview.
In an institution which is based upon preparing us for the life after this one that’s no bad thing of course, and continual reminder that we should raise our eyes from the mundane cares of this world and consider our place in the eternity to come. However, it does in fact lead to a certain naivety about what actually happens in this world.
The idea is that we ought to move to something like a beefed up United Nations. A supra-national body capable of:


[h=3]The Vatican Calls for World Government - Forbes[/h]www.forbes.com/sites/.../the-vatican-calls-for-world-government/


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OH NO YOU D INT!
 

Blain

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It's possible the vatican may be unknowingly working for satans plan. some believe a one world government would bring about peace and a much better world, bringing unity and such the only issue is that there has to be a person in charge of it all and I doubt they will do another government type thing they will probably want a king of sorts. I also heard they want a one world religion which of course is no easy feet. Basically a one world governrment would be setting up the stage for the antichrist I think, sure at first they would have a government thing but when thing get bad and out of hand they will need someone capable to run things and to have power and control.

At least this is just a theory really
 

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It's possible the vatican may be unknowingly working for satans plan. some believe a one world government would bring about peace and a much better world, bringing unity and such the only issue is that there has to be a person in charge of it all and I doubt they will do another government type thing they will probably want a king of sorts. I also heard they want a one world religion which of course is no easy feet. Basically a one world governrment would be setting up the stage for the antichrist I think, sure at first they would have a government thing but when thing get bad and out of hand they will need someone capable to run things and to have power and control.

At least this is just a theory really
base on rev 13. One world government will be lead by Antichrist. It is not a peace government, but it will be terrible for Christian, they going to persecute all that not willing to take the mark of the beast.

the leader will be political leader and religious leader, because the bible, said he will have great authority to all nations.

(political leader) and worship by all (worship is talking about religion)

Look like Pope fit in this category. He is political leader because Vatican is a government, and also religious.
 
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base on rev 13. One world government will be lead by Antichrist. It is not a peace government, but it will be terrible for Christian, they going to persecute all that not willing to take the mark of the beast.

the leader will be political leader and religious leader, because the bible, said he will have great authority to all nations.

(political leader) and worship by all (worship is talking about religion)

Look like Pope fit in this category. He is political leader because Vatican is a government, and also religious.
Mike Huckabee fits that description and so do many others. Try again
 
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The pope states the Koran is a book of peace and Islam is a peaceful religion. Need I say anything more?
 

Jackson123

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Mike Huckabee fits that description and so do many others. Try again
Rev 13 said he have great authority to all nations.

Huckabee doesn't have authority to even one nations.

Pope have influence to all nations. He lead billions catholic in all nations.

Huckabee only lead less then 100000 members.
 
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Continue your smear campaign! You people love to hate the Catholics. Which is why I question that this is a Christian site.
 

Jackson123

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Rev 13 said he have great authority to all nations.

Huckabee doesn't have authority to even one nations.

Pope have influence to all nations. He lead billions catholic in all nations.

Huckabee only lead less then 100000 members.
Also, I never heard Huckabee call for one world government, Pope does.
 

Jackson123

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Continue your smear campaign! You people love to hate the Catholics. Which is why I question that this is a Christian site.
Telling the truth is Love not hate. This is love campaign, not hate campaign.

Call for one world government is hate campaign. People need to aware what is one world government going to be.

Read Rev 13
 
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Telling the truth is Love not hate. This is love campaign, not hate campaign.

Call for one world government is hate campaign. People need to aware what is one world government going to be.

Read Rev 13
Greed will not let that happen. Ever read Animal Farm?
 

Jackson123

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Continue your smear campaign! You people love to hate the Catholics. Which is why I question that this is a Christian site.
I am not make up the story, almost all major news paper wrote about Pope call for one world government.

Then read rev 13 and make your own conclusion.
 

Jackson123

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Greed will not let that happen. Ever read Animal Farm?
I don't know what you mean.

Do you believe your own Pope speech that he call for one world government?

do you believe rev 13 that will be one leader in the world with great authority (politically and religiously )
 
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I don't know what you mean.

Do you believe your own Pope speech that he call for one world government?

do you believe rev 13 that will be one leader in the world with great authority (politically and religiously )
Yeah, but it ain't the pope! ROFL
 

Jackson123

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Yeah, but it ain't the pope! ROFL
I don't understand your response.

You do believe what most news paper said that Pope call for one world government or not?

News paper wrote base on Pope own speech.
 
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Rev 13 is not Pope Francis no matter how much you want it to be. Do you understand now?
 

Jackson123

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Rev 13 is not Pope Francis no matter how much you want it to be. Do you understand now?


Do you believe that Pope call for one world government?

Is there any one world government other than describe in rev 13 before second coming?
 
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Rev 13 talking about the future one Leader that have power to all nation./one world governtment.


Now according to Forbes Magazine, Vatican work for it.


Is that mean Pope work for Devil government?

Revelation Chapter 13


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Viewing the Standard King James Version. Switch to the 1611 KJV Revelation Chapter 13 or view a Revelation 13 parallel comparison.

[SUP]1[/SUP] And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
[SUP]2[/SUP] And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
[SUP]3[/SUP] And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
[SUP]4[/SUP] And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
[SUP]5[/SUP] And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
[SUP]6[/SUP] And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
[SUP]7[/SUP] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
[SUP]8[/SUP] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
[SUP]9[/SUP] If any man have an ear, let him hear.
[SUP]10[/SUP] He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
[SUP]11[/SUP] And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
[SUP]12[/SUP] And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
[SUP]13[/SUP] And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
[SUP]14[/SUP] And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
[SUP]15[/SUP] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
[SUP]16[/SUP] And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
[SUP]17[/SUP] And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
[SUP]18[/SUP] Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.




The Vatican Calls for World Government



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That isn’t just the implication it’s the explicit call in the latest from the Vatican: that we need to move to a system of world government:
If Vatican cardinals have yet to join the Occupy Wall Street protesters, a document released by the Holy See calling for a “world authority” to crack down on capitalism suggests some are considering it.
Alphaville has a bit of fun quoting scripture back at them here. The full (although preliminary translation) statement is here.
As someone educated and raised a Catholic I can tell you what the problem is here. It’s the otherworldly parts of the Vatican’s worldview.
In an institution which is based upon preparing us for the life after this one that’s no bad thing of course, and continual reminder that we should raise our eyes from the mundane cares of this world and consider our place in the eternity to come. However, it does in fact lead to a certain naivety about what actually happens in this world.
The idea is that we ought to move to something like a beefed up United Nations. A supra-national body capable of:


The Vatican Calls for World Government - Forbes

www.forbes.com/sites/.../the-vatican-calls-for-world-government/

Forbes









I think this scenario is to obvious. Satan is a master counterfeiter of God. If Possible even the very elect could be confused by the end times deception.

I believe it is going to be a little closer to "home" than the Catholic religion. Most born again believers are not confused about the catholic religion.
 

Jackson123

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I think this scenario is to obvious. Satan is a master counterfeiter of God. If Possible even the very elect could be confused by the end times deception.

I believe it is going to be a little closer to "home" than the Catholic religion. Most born again believers are not confused about the catholic religion.
Yup. I believe Satan used Catholic to do his job done.
 
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And also Pope Francis didn't even want the job