Is Vatican work for the devil?

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Mac4Yuma

Mac4Yuma

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Jackson123 said:
ISIS is sin,

I am sin

We all sin

but it doesn't mean ISIS go to heaven.


I am sin but I believe in Jesus and use bible as a foundation of my faith.

catholic sin but did not use bible as sole foundation of her faith.

They use tradition and most of the time not inline with the bible.

Isn't why you leave Catholic?

About the stepping stone,

In my country I hear a lot of testimony, some Muslim accept the Lord Jesus after pondering some verse in Quran.

It mean Quran is they stepping stone to Know Jesus.

But it doesn't mean Islam is save or good religion.

Muslim is false religion, but some Muslim come to the Lord after read specific verse in the Quran.
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Just a short comment on what sin is.

The origins of sin came from a breaking of the laws of God way before man walked on the earth. It is true now as it was then, sin is the breaking of the laws of God.
1 John 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

A simple question with a simple answer if one just lets the Bible interpret the bible and not letting man interpret it.
 
Mac4Yuma

Mac4Yuma

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JUSTNE1 said:
My point is that although I do not hold to the Catholic faith, I have seen that Our Lord uses people within this faith for his purposes. The local diocese have a homeless centre, food bank, IT lessons for the elderly, mass at old folks homes and critically I'll homes etc
I believe this to be universal, God used Pagan Kings numerous times and even called them "anointed"

The Catholic Church may be a stepping Stone of Faith in the developing World.

We are very quick to criticize other faiths that do not fit into our doctrinal bubble but i believe Our Lord has full control.

Blessings to you
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I would have said Christians are to judge others by what they do and say, the word "criticize" seems to far from the examples Jesus has given us to me.

Mac.
 
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JUSTNE1

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Mac4Yuma said:
I would have said Christians are to judge others by what they do and say, the word "criticize" seems to far from the examples Jesus has given us to me.

Mac.
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That's all we ever do is Judge!
Christians are experts at Judging Gods Servants!

Why don't we let God be God and us be the shallow, vain, self devieving hypocrites that we are.

If we did that there would never be 40,000 (estimated) Christian denominations, All of which profess the ONLY true faith, all of which subdue and point fingers at other Brothers and Sisters who do not hold to a specific doctrine.

I am ashamed to be a Christian sometimes!
 
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MikeHenderson

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You are wrong again Mac4Yuma, we do not use the Bible to interpret the Bible.

Its the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit who teaches us what the Scriptures say.

2 Peter 1:20-21
[SUP]20 [/SUP] knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,
[SUP]21 [/SUP] for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

1 Corinthians 2:13
[SUP]13 [/SUP] These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

Its the Holy Spirit who interprets the Bible for us.

Now the question that needs to be asked Mac4Yuma is do you have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit?

I do not see any Truth in you is why I ask.
 
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JUSTNE1

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You are condemning Christians. That is hate and hate is evil.

You do not know all Catholics

You need to take the log from your own eye.
 
mwc68

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Mac4Yuma said:
You said: "There is blood on the hands of the Catholics. Innocent blood from murder" but the same goes for almost all the churches and all most all people. Maybe you know something the Catholic Church did that most of us do not and if so please let us know. Keep in mind that the Protestens are off shoots of that Church just with different rules.

Mac.

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I haven't killed anybody, i haven't been instructed to kill anybody and the one thing about the past is, YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT. GET OVER IT!!!!!!!
 
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MikeHenderson

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We do not judge others. We do look at what they say and we do compare it to what the Holy Spirit say.

Unfortunately most of what Catholics and others say is not from the Holy Spirit.

Ephesians 5:8-11 (NKJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light
[SUP]9 [/SUP] (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth),
[SUP]10 [/SUP] finding out what is acceptable to the Lord.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.

True we are not to judge, but we are to expose the works of darkness that people like the Catholics do in the name of God.

We are experts in exposing the works of Satan in the Catholics. But we do not judge them.
 
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JUSTNE1

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I have the Holy Spirit and trust God.
You have the Holy Spirit and spew bile?

I lived at a Catholic church for 2 years!! My friend is a Catholic Priest.

You are no expert, you do not even have a modicum of discernment.

Try looking at the works of Satan in your own life, you may be able to get help with that!
 
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MikeHenderson

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How can Catholics mistakenly pray to Mary? Have they not read the Scriptures where it says we are to Worship and serve God only?

No! Its not a mistake!

The Catholics know what they are doing is a sin.

God will judge the Catholics for praying to Mary and may God have mercy on their Souls.
 
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MikeHenderson

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The problem is the Catholics believe they have received Salvation when they were Baptized as Infants. They do not then consider that they need to receive Salvation.

Since they have not Received Salvation they cannot enter into Heaven.

Even IF they later on have received Salvation, God will still hold them accountable for praying to Mary. I do not believe there are Catholics who mistakenly pray to Mary. They know what they are doing and they have grieved the Holy Spirit so much He has left them.
 
mwc68

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MikeHenderson said:
The problem is the Catholics believe they have received Salvation when they were Baptized as Infants. They do not then consider that they need to receive Salvation.

Since they have not Received Salvation they cannot enter into Heaven.

Even IF they later on have received Salvation, God will still hold them accountable for praying to Mary. I do not believe there are Catholics who mistakenly pray to Mary. They know what they are doing and they have grieved the Holy Spirit so much He has left them.
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I feel God will hold you responsible for the vile way you treat His mother. I have the Holy Spirit which I have detailed before, All of my life desicions have involved advice from the Holy Spirit.
 
mwc68

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MikeHenderson said:
We do not judge others. We do look at what they say and we do compare it to what the Holy Spirit say.

Unfortunately most of what Catholics and others say is not from the Holy Spirit.

Ephesians 5:8-11 (NKJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light
[SUP]9 [/SUP] (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth),
[SUP]10 [/SUP] finding out what is acceptable to the Lord.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.

True we are not to judge, but we are to expose the works of darkness that people like the Catholics do in the name of God.

We are experts in exposing the works of Satan in the Catholics. But we do not judge them.
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Experts? Bwahahahaha!
 
mwc68

mwc68

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MikeHenderson said:
We do not judge others. We do look at what they say and we do compare it to what the Holy Spirit say.

Unfortunately most of what Catholics and others say is not from the Holy Spirit.

Ephesians 5:8-11 (NKJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light
[SUP]9 [/SUP] (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth),
[SUP]10 [/SUP] finding out what is acceptable to the Lord.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.

True we are not to judge, but we are to expose the works of darkness that people like the Catholics do in the name of God.

We are experts in exposing the works of Satan in the Catholics. But we do not judge them.
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The only experts I know that expose darkness are ordained Catholic exorcists. The only darkness you expose is flipping a light switch
 
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MikeHenderson

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I treat The Mary in the Bible with great respect!

The Mary in the Catholic Church is a Demon deceiving the Catholics and they do not even know it.

Actually God will hold you responsible for the vile way you treat His mother!

How dare you say Mary was without sin when God SAID ALL have sinned! God will hold you responsible for the vile way you treat His mother!

Its you Catholics that God will hold you responsible for what you have done in His name!
 
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MikeHenderson

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YES we are experts in showing the evil and the lies of the Catholic Church!
 
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MikeHenderson

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How can you say you have advice from the Holy Spirit when you teach Mary was with out sin?

How can you say you have advice from the Holy Spirit when you teach Mary was assumed into Heaven?

How can you say you have advice from the Holy Spirit when you teach we need Purgatory to cleanse ourselves of our sins by ourselves?

You do not have the Holy Spirit nor have you ever followed the Holy Spirit!

You sir are a fraud and a deceiver doing the works of your father Satan! Get thee behind me mwc68!
 
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JUSTNE1

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MikeHenderson said:
The problem is the Catholics believe they have received Salvation when they were Baptized as Infants. They do not then consider that they need to receive Salvation.

Since they have not Received Salvation they cannot enter into Heaven.

Even IF they later on have received Salvation, God will still hold them accountable for praying to Mary. I do not believe there are Catholics who mistakenly pray to Mary. They know what they are doing and they have grieved the Holy Spirit so much He has left them.
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You talk nonsense. Act your age!
 
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Brother_J_BELGIUM

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Sure the Vatican wants power, no doubt about that. But when the Bible is speaking about this:

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

We all seem to know the book of Daniel and Revelation so well, but most Christians haven't paying attention to the fact that according to Revelation 13:2 and the book of Daniel chapters 4 and 7 the Antichrist kingdom (beast of the sea) will consist of both the Grecian Empire (leopard), the Medo-Persian Empire (bear) and the Babylonian Empire (lion).

Who controls these regions today? Islam.

What is Daniel telling us in chapter 2 verse 40?
And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

The iron breaks all other metals (the gold - Babylon; the silver - Medo-Persia; the bronze - Grecian Empire).
The iron (Antichrist) kingdom breaks all these! As far as I know, the Roman Empire was centered around the Mediterranean Sea and could only conquer some western parts of the Grecian Empire. It never ruled over or conquered the Grecian Empire all the way to India (Islam did), it didn't conquer the complete Babylonian area either (Islam did), it didn't conquer the Persian Empire either (Islam did).

In fact, history tells us that the Eastern Roman Empire and the Persian Empire were both exhausted economically and militarily because of their wars they had for decades and finally the Ottoman Empire conquered the Persian Empire as well as the Eastern Roman Empire in 1453.

My point is that the pope will not be the leader of this beast of the sea, I do believe that they will follow the leader of the beast of the sea. After all, according to the Catholic church, Islam worships the same Abrahamic God/god as the Christians and Jews do.
 
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Jackson123

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Mac4Yuma said:
Just a short comment on what sin is.

The origins of sin came from a breaking of the laws of God way before man walked on the earth. It is true now as it was then, sin is the breaking of the laws of God.
1 John 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

A simple question with a simple answer if one just lets the Bible interpret the bible and not letting man interpret it.
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With this definition, Is promote one world government sin?
 
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