Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor (Proverbs 21:13)

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MikkoAinasoja

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13. Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, He also shall cry, but shall not be heard. (Proverb 21:13)

So have you block your ears for voices of poor's, and having step in the road of hypocrisy, believing that the grace of God will save you, when your selfish path ends?

Do not deceive your selves, by the false doctrines of today, which leads you love the world, and to live selfish live, but same tame it leads you believe that you are righteous in a eye's of God.

Make sure that the light in you, is light, and not darkness.
 
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13. Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, He also shall cry, but shall not be heard. (Proverb 21:13)

So have you block your ears for voices of poor's, and having step in the road of hypocrisy, believing that the grace of God will save you, when your selfish path ends?

Do not deceive your selves, by the false doctrines of today, which leads you love the world, and to live selfish live, but same tame it leads you believe that you are righteous in a eye's of God.

Make sure that the light in you, is light, and not darkness.
Have you?..
 

MikkoAinasoja

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Stoppeth my ears? No, I do share in my part also to poor people's of the world, to do righteous, and exhort also you all to do so.

Make a friends with the mammon of unrighteousness, so when it fail, they may have you in they eternal dwellings
 
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Stoppeth my ears? No, I do share in my part also to poor people's of the world, to do righteous, and exhort also you all to do so.

Make a friends with the mammon of unrighteousness, so when it fail, they may have you in they eternal dwellings
So why do you assume no one else has? (I have no idea what the mammon of righteousness is.)
 

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Stoppeth my ears? No, I do share in my part also to poor people's of the world, to do righteous, and exhort also you all to do so.

Make a friends with the mammon of unrighteousness, so when it fail, they may have you in they eternal dwellings
I truely think its great that you are exhorting people to do what is right in the sight of God, i onlyjust read this scripture myself 5 minutes ago. But please consider what i will say in humility. Try to exhort others without assumption. There is a tone of arrogance in your exhortation and i say this to help you help others!
It isnot to discourage or point finger at you but maybe help you see what you currently dont see...
 

MikkoAinasoja

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So why do you assume no one else has? (I have no idea what the mammon of righteousness is.)
I assume it simply because I see no here a spiritual wisdom, and wrong values causes that t you; loving of the world, loving of money, loving to do "good" just that other people's see, and all kind of that.

If you truly were doing what is right, then it should be come out in discussions, in wise words, in noble act's.

But like I have say, that this all is missing here, so obviously, many things are wrong, in the way which you, today's christians have choose.
 

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I truely think its great that you are exhorting people to do what is right in the sight of God, i onlyjust read this scripture myself 5 minutes ago. But please consider what i will say in humility. Try to exhort others without assumption. There is a tone of arrogance in your exhortation and i say this to help you help others!
It isnot to discourage or point finger at you but maybe help you see what you currently dont see...
You see if I see exhortation like this in Op by someone else, I may joy for it, because it do not strike me, but inside I can join in exhortations like this.

But why every one seems wan't to just tell me how to do my work, instead that, them self try to do it?

I see that you wan't please the people's in this forum by you writing, more that exhort to do good, but by that you do not actually do work to God, but just use your time with a group of people's.

What if, it is you who have gone too close to the deeds of the man, that you can not hear the voice of God?
 
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wwjd_kilden

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much of the problem today is that if we try to give to the "poor" people we actually meet, the money ends up with the far from poor people who walk by later and collect the money. (That's how organized begging works). So maybe people thus don't give in the open on the streets, but "hidden", ie online to known organizations they trust
 

breno785au

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You see if I see exhortation like this in Op by someone else, I may joy for it, because it do not strike me, but inside I can join in exhortations like this.

But why every one seems wan't to just tell me how to do my work, instead that, them self try to do it?

I see that you wan't please the people's in this forum by you writing, more that exhort to do good, but by that you do not actually do work to God, but just use your time with a group of people's.

What if, it is you who have gone too close to the deeds of the man, that you can not hear the voice of God?
Hey man, I was just trying to help you, it's good to receive instruction right?
As for what you think of my conduct here, it does not bother me. Everyone here has their reason for being here and mine is not to have a proclaimed desire to constantly feel like I need to teach people. I'm here for fellowship with the saints, and when the time comes to teach, exhort, encourage, rebuke, whatever, I will do so if I have the words to say.

Once again, you ave displayed arrogance and assumption in your post, I don't condemn you for it but once again showing you to help you help others, but not showing you as gently as I did formerly.
If you want to carry on about it, I will not contend with you, it is useless to do so.
 

MikkoAinasoja

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Hey man, I was just trying to help you, it's good to receive instruction right?
As for what you think of my conduct here, it does not bother me. Everyone here has their reason for being here and mine is not to have a proclaimed desire to constantly feel like I need to teach people. I'm here for fellowship with the saints, and when the time comes to teach, exhort, encourage, rebuke, whatever, I will do so if I have the words to say.

Once again, you ave displayed arrogance and assumption in your post, I don't condemn you for it but once again showing you to help you help others, but not showing you as gently as I did formerly.
If you want to carry on about it, I will not contend with you, it is useless to do so.
What I speak, I speak is as a servant of God, and the Lord Yeshua, and I do find the words to say, so pleas let me do my work, because you do not helping at all now, if you come here to judge the exhortation, instead that you exhort by your self.

If you want to help me, then do the righteous, and exhort also to others to do righteousness.
 
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See how you respond to a clear call to repentance. I can hear the smart aleck tone in your words....HAVE YOU?

If you were walking according to the word of God your response would have been more like 'right on brother, preach it!'

Anyone who dares to challenge many on this site had better have a thick skin and a lot of Jesus on hand!
 

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Hey man, I was just trying to help you, it's good to receive instruction right?
As for what you think of my conduct here, it does not bother me. Everyone here has their reason for being here and mine is not to have a proclaimed desire to constantly feel like I need to teach people. I'm here for fellowship with the saints, and when the time comes to teach, exhort, encourage, rebuke, whatever, I will do so if I have the words to say.

Once again, you ave displayed arrogance and assumption in your post, I don't condemn you for it but once again showing you to help you help others, but not showing you as gently as I did formerly.
If you want to carry on about it, I will not contend with you, it is useless to do so.
So now it's arrogance to teach truth. Take note that the scribes and Pharisees accused Christ also for having a wrong spirit so much that they said He had a devil.

Seems the arrogance is on your part Bren! To carry on with you about it is useless. I'll not contend.
 
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13. Whoso stoppeth his ears at the cry of the poor, He also shall cry, but shall not be heard. (Proverb 21:13)

So have you block your ears for voices of poor's, and having step in the road of hypocrisy, believing that the grace of God will save you, when your selfish path ends?

Do not deceive your selves, by the false doctrines of today, which leads you love the world, and to live selfish live, but same tame it leads you believe that you are righteous in a eye's of God.

Make sure that the light in you, is light, and not darkness.[/QUOTE/ Seems like every other word in the O.T., Ps., Prophets say the same thing,as did Jesus. A good post!!!
 

breno785au

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What I speak, I speak is as a servant of God, and the Lord Yeshua, and I do find the words to say, so pleas let me do my work, because you do not helping at all now, if you come here to judge the exhortation, instead that you exhort by your self.

If you want to help me, then do the righteous, and exhort also to others to do righteousness.
Okay, I'm sorry that you have found me to be no help at all. Please forgive me.

So now it's arrogance to teach truth. Take note that the scribes and Pharisees accused Christ also for having a wrong spirit so much that they said He had a devil.

Seems the arrogance is on your part Bren! To carry on with you about it is useless. I'll not contend.
I don't think you quite picked up on the gentleness of my approach to what I found that I could have been helping him to be more effective in communicating his message. It's not the message I had a problem with, it was the way it was communicated. But what's done is done, I've apologised and asked for forgiveness from the OP. And I also apologise to you too for being offended by my posts. Please forgive me.
 
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So why do you assume no one else has? (I have no idea what the mammon of righteousness is.)
I don't see anyone assuming no one else gives to the poor! Are you picking a fight, or guilty? It is a good exhortation. One really needed in today's self serving social religion. I don't think there is a righteous mammon, we are to use the worlds money to do good with, which will be counted as spiritual goodness in heaven. What is wrong with exhortation . will it always be called condemnation or pointing the finger, or self righteousness here. That's why people can't have a good discussion most of the time. I think there is some scripture about stopping your ears at the lord rebuke and its not good
 
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Hey man, I was just trying to help you, it's good to receive instruction right?
As for what you think of my conduct here, it does not bother me. Everyone here has their reason for being here and mine is not to have a proclaimed desire to constantly feel like I need to teach people. I'm here for fellowship with the saints, and when the time comes to teach, exhort, encourage, rebuke, whatever, I will do so if I have the words to say.

Once again, you ave displayed arrogance and assumption in your post, I don't condemn you for it but once again showing you to help you help others, but not showing you as gently as I did formerly.
If you want to carry on about it, I will not contend with you, it is useless to do so.
Hey man, He wasn't arrogant, that's my point. As far as assumption, it's not assumption if 95 out of 100 people are what he says. He not trying to contend ,just speaking what the scriptures say. I suppose that now I am haughty ,proud, and condescending ,right. That's how it mostly goes here.
 

breno785au

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Hey man, He wasn't arrogant, that's my point. As far as assumption, it's not assumption if 95 out of 100 people are what he says. He not trying to contend ,just speaking what the scriptures say. I suppose that now I am haughty ,proud, and condescending ,right. That's how it mostly goes here.
Okay, let's clear the air. I read into his post wrong. I'm in the wrong and I'm sorry. Not that I was ever against the basis of the message.
 
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weakness

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Okay, let's clear the air. I read into his post wrong. I'm in the wrong and I'm sorry. Not that I was ever against the basis of the message.
​Love ya, no problem.
 
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Mitspa

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What I speak, I speak is as a servant of God, and the Lord Yeshua, and I do find the words to say, so pleas let me do my work, because you do not helping at all now, if you come here to judge the exhortation, instead that you exhort by your self.

If you want to help me, then do the righteous, and exhort also to others to do righteousness.
How do we know your a servant of God...lots of folks claim to be a lot of things on these forums. Those of us who give to the poor are not going to come on to this thread and boast about it. Do you give, or are you trying to raise money?
 

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Is the devouring of widows houses and forcing tithing on the poor families who are struggling in a depressed Obama/liberal loon economy really caring for the poor.? Am I the only idiot that decries this theft of the poor in the so called 'house of God'?

The sanctuarie for the needy, so called. The haven for the hurting, so called. The bulwark for the destitute, so called.
The place of rest for the deprived, so called. If the poor families can cough up the tithe first then they can get that 20 dollars worth of groceries! Excuse me for one moment while I go heave!!

Hypocrites packing the pews lavishing the exalted cleric with praise and adoration while writing out your checks for your tithes this week while a widow woman sits in the next pew who can barely afford food on her spindley Monthly SS check.

But you say 'Pastor Onthetake' deserves our tithes, he works so hard. He's going to check the mission fields this week'.....which is tantamount to some more vacations. I know this. I've seen it first hand. I'm on to them. I know what I'm talking about!

Hypocrites! Know you not that 'you are not to think to highly of any man'?

We we are to esteem those of a lesser degree with greater honor, to pour more abundant honor upon the less fortunate!

Hypocrites! Desiring to be in the inner circle with the exalted one, with Dyotrphes, the clerical robed one, while the less prosperous cry to God in silence in your dens of thievery! Church budgets under the dark covering of a charitable interprise complete with the 501c3 tax evasion guise, with maybe 4 percent actually going to the needy, after all the hefty salaries are paid to the professional leaders. The awesome ones!

Pardon me while I go and take this before God again. He will not let this sham and shame go unanswered forever!

Fox News pointing out the attack that's going to come on the churches when many, but not all, will refuse to do homo weddings. This is of God. His judgment on the den of thieves, the tax evaders, the so called caretakers of the poor!!

The word is clear 'judgment MUST begin at the house (the ekklesis) of God!

Only one word is in order here...REPENT ekklesia(church)!!