Do not love the world (1 John 2:15-17)

[MikkoAinasoja]

15. Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the vain glory of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. (1 John 2:15-17)

So is your heart in this perishable world, or in God's word which will be for ever?

Do not love the world, like our dear brother Yochannan also writes here to the Yeshuas follower of his time.

If you love the world, then God's love can't have room in you heart, so love God, and your neighbor, but cover your self so that the world do not contaminate you values.



The word of exhortation: In the Lord Messiah Yešua

 

[purgedconscience]

15. Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the vain glory of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. (1 John 2:15-17)

So is your heart in this perishable world, or in God's word which will be for ever?

Do not love the world, like our dear brother Yochannan also writes here to the Yeshuas follower of his time.

If you love the world, then God's love can't have room in you heart, so love God, and your neighbor, but cover your self so that the world do not contaminate you values.



The word of exhortation: In the Lord Messiah Yešua

Amen.

This present world will one day be judged by fire and Christians ought to be focused upon the promised new heavens and new earth wherein dwells righteousness:

2 Peter chapter 3 verses 7 thru 14

But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

 

[prove-all]

23;And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself,
and take up his cross daily, and follow me.

24;Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me,
let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

27;And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them,
Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

38;And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

37;He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me:
and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife,
or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.​

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[Willie-T]

Another of the many verses we stretch every which way to justify the way we sometimes treat others without even a thought of actually "loving" them.

 

[purgedconscience]

Another of the many verses we stretch every which way to justify the way we sometimes treat others without even a thought of actually "loving" them.

We?

Please speak for yourself.

Thank you.

 

[KennethC]

This passage just simply means do not love the things of the world more then God, or in other words do not put anything before God.

It does not mean you can't have possessions and live good, it just means not to put those things before God and always give Him the credit for the things you have and can do.....

 

[Willie-T]

We?

Please speak for yourself.

Thank you.

Try to at least be honest. If a practicing homosexual couple came to your church, would you give them a seat right down front, take them to dinner afterward, and invite them to come back anytime? (Even while they continued to live together?)

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

This passage just simply means do not love the things of the world more then God, or in other words do not put anything before God.

It does not mean you can't have possessions and live good, it just means not to put those things before God and always give Him the credit for the things you have and can do.....

But if you collect for your self a huge possession, then don't your heart is in it?

How can a man can collect him self a masses of money, without loving the money?

 

[KennethC]

But if you collect for your self a huge possession, then don't your heart is in it?

How can a man can collect him self a masses of money, without loving the money?

It depends on what they do with the money, just because a person has a lot of money does not mean their love is in that money.

Remember the bible says money is only the root of all evil, not that it is evil in and of itself.
Because there is tons of things that can be done with money for good purposes, it is only when they become selfish and uncaring towards others with that money is it wrong.

We must get away thinking that just because people have money and possessions does not mean their love is in them, some or a lot of cases yes it can be but we can not place all situations the same.....

 

[Magenta]

Remember the bible says money is only the root of all evil, not that it is evil in and of itself.

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. 1 Timothy 6:10

 

[Willie-T]

It depends on what they do with the money, just because a person has a lot of money does not mean their love is in that money.

Remember the bible says money is only the root of all evil, not that it is evil in and of itself. Because there is tons of things that can be done with money for good purposes, it is only when they become selfish and uncaring towards others with that money is it wrong.

We must get away thinking that just because people have money and possessions does not mean their love is in them, some or a lot of cases yes it can be but we can not place all situations the same.....

Please tell us you learned the error of that statement way back when you were in Sunday School.

 

[Mitspa]

The Pharisees "loved" to be honored by men (the eyes of the world) they loved mans religion and self-righteousness more than God. Being religious has nothing to do with really loving God.

 

[KennethC]

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. 1 Timothy 6:10

Exactly which is what I pretty much said, as I said that money itself is not evil.

It is how others use it and what they do with it that makes it evil or not, as is the case with all things if you take and put more emphasis and importance on them then you do God then that item will become sin as well. The whole looking down on others just because they have possessions and money and placing them all as living in sin is not correct. Unless you know exactly what they do with their money we have no business making that call on them, especially since we will not truly know if they are doing it correctly because the bible shows giving is to be done in silence. Not openly for self recognition !!!

 

[KennethC]

Please tell us you learned the error of that statement way back when you were in Sunday School.

There is no error in that statement, because money in and of itself is not evil !!!

 

[Willie-T]

There is no error in that statement, because money in and of itself is not evil !!!

Are you deliberately pretending not to see the word, "love" in that statement?

 

[purgedconscience]

Try to at least be honest. If a practicing homosexual couple came to your church, would you give them a seat right down front, take them to dinner afterward, and invite them to come back anytime? (Even while they continued to live together?)

I'd have no problem with the first three and probably not a problem with your parenthetical condition either. That said, however, I'd make it plain to them and to all others around that homosexuality is an abomination in God's sight, as are adultery and fornication, by the way. If after an ample amount of teaching the couple refused to refrain from being a couple, then it would be loving to remove them from the body lest the whole lump be leavened. Again, this would apply to any type of sexual sin and not just homosexuality and not even to just sexual sins alone. I guess that it matters how one defines love. Jesus chastened those whom He loved in the church and called them to repentance. Does such fit your definition of love? It fits mine.

 

[Willie-T]

I'd have no problem with the first three and probably not a problem with your parenthetical condition either. That said, however, I'd make it plain to them and to all others around that homosexuality is an abomination in God's sight, as are adultery and fornication, by the way. If after an ample amount of teaching the couple refused to refrain from being a couple, then it would be loving to remove them from the body lest the whole lump be leavened. Again, this would apply to any type of sexual sin and not just homosexuality and not even to just sexual sins alone. I guess that it matters how one defines love. Jesus chastened those whom He loved in the church and called them to repentance. Does such fit your definition of love? It fits mine.

You WOULD have no problem....... but, Gosh, those opportunities never seem to come up, do they? I wonder why?

 

[KennethC]

Are you deliberately pretending not to see the word, "love" in that statement?

The love of it is the sin, not the money itself !!!

I am not ignoring the love part in that verse, but that does not change the fact that money itself is evil.
If a person takes and gets $10,000 dollars donated to them, and they use all $10,000 to help feed and cloth others that money was still evil or the person that did this with the money was evil. No because the money is not evil of itself, it is the emphasis of loving the money more than God and others that is evil.

 

[purgedconscience]

You WOULD have no problem....... but, Gosh, those opportunities never seem to come up, do they? I wonder why?

Oh, but they do come up all of the time. In other words, the churches are full of adulterers and fornicators, but they seem to get a free pass in many situations whereas the sin of homosexuality is seemingly elevated above these equally as offensive sins in God's eyes.

 

[Willie-T]

Oh, but they do come up all of the time. In other words, the churches are full of adulterers and fornicators, but they seem to get a free pass in many situations whereas the sin of homosexuality is seemingly elevated above these equally as offensive sins in God's eyes.

And how often we seem to neglect becoming friends with (loving) any of these people so that we CAN have the right to talk to them about such things?

Most of us, if we say anything, seem to think it is our right and duty to make sure they know we have already judged them..... long before we get to know anything about them as people.