Are Many Spirit Filled, ie Spreak in Tongues on this site ??
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I've been a Christian for as long as I can remember. I became more invested in my faith in my early teens (owned it, if you will). But it's only in the last 6 or so months that I've been able to speak in tongues. I would love for it to be a bit more developed (to my ear) but I'll take what I've been given. 
That would be interesting...seeing how the people upon whom the Spirit fell spoke in (languages) immediately and to be frank there was no mumbo jumbo...the disciples spoke in their own language and the nations represented HEARD in their own language...it would be no different in you or I speaking ENGLISH and a Chinese, Russian, Japanese all understanding our English in their own language!
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Tongues is a manifestation from utterances of the Holy Spirit. You can be Spirit filled and not speak in tongues. Tongues is a manifestation, the Holy Sprit is a gift to all those who repent and are baptized. It doesn't say ask and keep asking for the Holy Spirit anywhere, that verse your quoting says be baptized and you WILL receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. This all goes to OT stuff about the temple, priest, the veil etc.
The Spirit is truth. Spirit here is lowercased, so this is talking about our spirit not The Spirit. True worshippers, have a worship lifestyle and not just words. He wants our hearts and words to match up, not to be like the Pharisees who spoke with their mouths but hearts far from Him.
Realize 1 Cor 14 talks of how it's important to know how to interpret. Yes, it starts out with mysteries and it's to God, but realize after it says how the pray in the Sprit and I pray in my understanding. So its' not unfruitful but is beneficial to you.
We can recognize if someone is filled with the Spirit by a changed life and producing the fruits.
The Spirit is truth. Spirit here is lowercased, so this is talking about our spirit not The Spirit. True worshippers, have a worship lifestyle and not just words. He wants our hearts and words to match up, not to be like the Pharisees who spoke with their mouths but hearts far from Him.
Realize 1 Cor 14 talks of how it's important to know how to interpret. Yes, it starts out with mysteries and it's to God, but realize after it says how the pray in the Sprit and I pray in my understanding. So its' not unfruitful but is beneficial to you.
We can recognize if someone is filled with the Spirit by a changed life and producing the fruits.
In church it is a proclamation to the church of what GOD said and should only be done when there is someone there with the gift of interpretation to interpret to the church what GOD said to edify the believers.
It's a sign to unbelievers meaning if the person is speaking in tongue and the unbeliever can understand what is being said before the interpreter tells the church what was said then they will know this is true and not just jibberish.
It builds up/edifys the believer if they are speaking in tongues maybe at home
It's a sign to unbelievers meaning if the person is speaking in tongue and the unbeliever can understand what is being said before the interpreter tells the church what was said then they will know this is true and not just jibberish.
It builds up/edifys the believer if they are speaking in tongues maybe at home
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In 1 Cor 14 Paul talks about the difference between public and private tongues, ie Prophecy and 'prayer language'. A prophetic tongue requires interpretation and at Pentecost it was those who heard them speaking in their own languages who were the interpreters. In a like manner in the assembly prophetic tongues are to have an interpretation; and are limited to a few.
But not all tongues in the Bible were so accompanied, nor does Paul ever say they have to be - just when they are in public. Paul also talks about a private tongue, what some call a prayer language. What would be the purpose of a 'prayer language' tongue? Say you are praying for someone, but you don't know everything about their situation. If you knew all the details you could bring those to God, but you don't so you can't. But the Holy Spirit knows them. So if you allow the Holy Spirit to pray thru you, you may speak to the mysteries unknown to you. Likewise, suppose something's going down somewhere and the Holy Spirit needs someone to pray over it. You'd pray over it, if you knew, but how are you going to know? The Holy Spirit knows, and by allowing the Spirit to pray thru us we may intercede in things we know nothing about.
And then there's the origin of 'tongues'. As man's numbers grew after creation he had a single spiritual language. It was one of the few things he kept out of the fall, and it persisted until the tower of Babel (Gen 11:1 – 8). When the Messiah returns to restore all that man has lost, one of those things restored will be that pure singular spiritual language (Zeph 3:9). Christ has won the authority to restore all things, but has yet to return to this world to enforce it. Tongues are a way for us to access that future restored language now, thru the Holy Spirit, so that we may enforce His authority for Him.
Where it talks about tongues 'ceasing' (1 Cor 13:8-10 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.), it's not that the tongue will stop, but it will cease to be known as a tongue. Remember that lost single spiritual language will be restored when Christ returns, and at that point it will be our native language. English (French German whatever) would then be known as the tongue, since they would be the 'outsider' languages. And until Christ returns to bring restoration to the here and now, completeness is yet to come, perfection is yet to come, not in the heavenlies but here on earth. And so the gifts end when Christ returns and brings His perfect completeness to us, because at that point they become moot. For example, we won’t need the gift of healing any more, when people aren’t getting sick anymore.
Given a good thing, we humans will find some way to screw it up. We will over-use, over-hype, and over-the-top it. That's just our nature. Too, satan will do all he can to muddy the waters. That's when outsiders start thinking we're crazy, and that's where Paul tells some to put a leash on it. Place and moderation are key to tongues being useful vs being foolish. Being foolish with God’s gifts is never a good idea. And that foolishness includes denying them.
Tongues are not necessary for salvation, nor should it be demanded as proof of Spiritual Baptism. Prophecy is given to those called for it. But the gifts of the Spirit are available to all and not required of any... although Paul wished that we all would do so. And God does talk about those who hide their lights under bushels (Mark 4:21, Matt 5:15, Luke 11:33), and bury their talents in the ground (Matt 25:14-28). The gifts, while not required, are effective in helping produce the fruit of the Spirit, which are required. Let me propose that again, the gifts of the Spirit are intended to help us produce the fruits of the Spirit. This includes discerningly placed tongues.
But not all tongues in the Bible were so accompanied, nor does Paul ever say they have to be - just when they are in public. Paul also talks about a private tongue, what some call a prayer language. What would be the purpose of a 'prayer language' tongue? Say you are praying for someone, but you don't know everything about their situation. If you knew all the details you could bring those to God, but you don't so you can't. But the Holy Spirit knows them. So if you allow the Holy Spirit to pray thru you, you may speak to the mysteries unknown to you. Likewise, suppose something's going down somewhere and the Holy Spirit needs someone to pray over it. You'd pray over it, if you knew, but how are you going to know? The Holy Spirit knows, and by allowing the Spirit to pray thru us we may intercede in things we know nothing about.
And then there's the origin of 'tongues'. As man's numbers grew after creation he had a single spiritual language. It was one of the few things he kept out of the fall, and it persisted until the tower of Babel (Gen 11:1 – 8). When the Messiah returns to restore all that man has lost, one of those things restored will be that pure singular spiritual language (Zeph 3:9). Christ has won the authority to restore all things, but has yet to return to this world to enforce it. Tongues are a way for us to access that future restored language now, thru the Holy Spirit, so that we may enforce His authority for Him.
Where it talks about tongues 'ceasing' (1 Cor 13:8-10 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10 but when completeness comes, what is in part disappears.), it's not that the tongue will stop, but it will cease to be known as a tongue. Remember that lost single spiritual language will be restored when Christ returns, and at that point it will be our native language. English (French German whatever) would then be known as the tongue, since they would be the 'outsider' languages. And until Christ returns to bring restoration to the here and now, completeness is yet to come, perfection is yet to come, not in the heavenlies but here on earth. And so the gifts end when Christ returns and brings His perfect completeness to us, because at that point they become moot. For example, we won’t need the gift of healing any more, when people aren’t getting sick anymore.
Given a good thing, we humans will find some way to screw it up. We will over-use, over-hype, and over-the-top it. That's just our nature. Too, satan will do all he can to muddy the waters. That's when outsiders start thinking we're crazy, and that's where Paul tells some to put a leash on it. Place and moderation are key to tongues being useful vs being foolish. Being foolish with God’s gifts is never a good idea. And that foolishness includes denying them.
Tongues are not necessary for salvation, nor should it be demanded as proof of Spiritual Baptism. Prophecy is given to those called for it. But the gifts of the Spirit are available to all and not required of any... although Paul wished that we all would do so. And God does talk about those who hide their lights under bushels (Mark 4:21, Matt 5:15, Luke 11:33), and bury their talents in the ground (Matt 25:14-28). The gifts, while not required, are effective in helping produce the fruit of the Spirit, which are required. Let me propose that again, the gifts of the Spirit are intended to help us produce the fruits of the Spirit. This includes discerningly placed tongues.
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Wow, am I shocked, I didn't get an answer from anyone. I guess their off PMing each other in tongues. It's possible, all you do is let your cat walk all over your keyboard.
That's really adult.
It's also called mocking.
Do you really want an answer or do you just want to do what you have already done?
I really don't care anymore if people want to villify the gifts and or speaking in tongues; but making fun is really out of place and if you knew what you were really doing, you would backpeddle very quickly
You don't want to participate? That's YOUR choice, but for those of us who do, there is no need for you and others like you to stoop that low
Don't present your scriptures or your arguements...don't bother...I've heard and read them all
The point is, why do you mock what you really do not understand?
I will agree that it is a beautiful and great gift, but I disagree that it is evidence of being filled with the Holy Spirit. There is no suggestion of that in Scripture. A man can speak in tongues, as many of the Corinthians did, and be carnal. A man can be filled with joy and with the Holy Spirit and not speak in tongues. Tongues is mainly a gift for private purposes, namely worshiping God. But it is not evidence that the person is necessariiy filled with the Holy Spirit.
It would be foolish to deny that there are many Spirit-filled Christians who do not speak in tongues.. I would be more in doubt of them if they did not have the joy of the Lord and sing to one another in Psalms, and hymns and spiritual songs.
It would be foolish to deny that there are many Spirit-filled Christians who do not speak in tongues.. I would be more in doubt of them if they did not have the joy of the Lord and sing to one another in Psalms, and hymns and spiritual songs.
It was evidence that Gentiles and disciples of John had RECEIVED the Holy Spirit, just as prophecy was evidence that the Samaritans had. But it is not accidental that it was these three bodies who could have decided to form a separatist movement at that time had it not been for God demonstrating that it was through the Jewish Apostles that they had shared in the Holy Spirit.
It was not seen as necessary in Eph 5.16 ff or Acts 13.52.Nor in the case of the Ethiopian Eunuch. Like many gifts we must see speaking in tongues in perspective. It is mainly a gift for private worship and not evidence of extra spirituality.
It was not seen as necessary in Eph 5.16 ff or Acts 13.52.Nor in the case of the Ethiopian Eunuch. Like many gifts we must see speaking in tongues in perspective. It is mainly a gift for private worship and not evidence of extra spirituality.