Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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I will answer that mwc68, every time you put Mary above God you are proving your hate towards God.
The very fact you see nothing wrong with Worshiping Mary as your God should give you a clue as why people believe you hate God.
In fact i will go so far as to question if you really have received Salvation at all. Everything you say everything you do points to you following Mary as your God.
The very fact that you are upset with Ken showing where in the Scriptures God says people are Blessed by Him does make one begin to think that maybe Mary is your God.
The very fact you see nothing wrong with Worshiping Mary as your God should give you a clue as why people believe you hate God.
In fact i will go so far as to question if you really have received Salvation at all. Everything you say everything you do points to you following Mary as your God.
The very fact that you are upset with Ken showing where in the Scriptures God says people are Blessed by Him does make one begin to think that maybe Mary is your God.
No.... I don't think so. It is my beleif that you are upset, frustrated, disappointed, because I have refuted your claim of Sola Scriptura reguarding the passage you posted. (2 Tim.3:16-17) And you are having a difficult time finding any other passage to prove your belief of the bible alone (Sola Scriptura) being sufficient as a sole rule of faith! Why not just swallow your pride and admit that there is no such passage? You'd feel a whole lot better, and we can move on to the other claims you brought forward.
In the mean time, I'd like to show one of the death-blows to sola scriptura that comes from Scripture itself is that it is made clear that the oral Word of God – that is, the Sacred Tradition of the Apostles – is equally valid and authoritative. In fact, Paul makes an appeal to oral Tradition immediately prior to this passage, in verse 14:
"But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it,"
*Paul is telling Timothy to believe what he learned from Paul and the other Apostles. Orally? Scripture makes it clear that that was in fact the normative means of transmitting the truths of the faith. In this very same letter, we have: What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus. (1 Tim 1:13); And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable people who will also be qualified to teach others. (1 Tim 2:2).
*Would you object if I first define what we mean by "Tradition", since most Protestants misunderstand it.I would hope not. Anyhoo, are we speaking of traditions of men? No, not at all – we are speaking of the Word of God transmitted orally, as entrusted by Christ to the Apostles. This is some of what the Catechism of the Catholic Church has to say:
*75: "Christ the Lord, in whom the entire Revelation of the most high God is summed up, commanded the apostles to preach the Gospel, which had been promised beforehand by the prophets, and which he fulfilled in his own person and promulgated with his own lips. In preaching the Gospel, they were to communicate the gifts of God to all men. This Gospel was to be the source of all saving truth and moral discipline."
76: In keeping with the Lord's command, the Gospel was handed on in two ways:
- orally "by the apostles who handed on, by the spoken word of their preaching, by the example they gave, by the institutions they established, what they themselves had received - whether from the lips of Christ, from his way of life and his works, or whether they had learned it at the prompting of the Holy Spirit";
- in writing "by those apostles and other men associated with the apostles who, under the inspiration of the same Holy Spirit, committed the message of salvation to writing".
77: "In order that the full and living Gospel might always be preserved in the Church the apostles left bishops as their successors. They gave them their own position of teaching authority." Indeed, "the apostolic preaching, which is expressed in a special way in the inspired books, was to be preserved in a continuous line of succession until the end of time."
78: This living transmission, accomplished in the Holy Spirit, is called Tradition, since it is distinct from Sacred Scripture, though closely connected to it. Through Tradition, "the Church, in her doctrine, life and worship, perpetuates and transmits to every generation all that she herself is, all that she believes. The sayings of the holy Fathers are a witness to the life-giving presence of this Tradition, showing how its riches are poured out in the practice and life of the Church, in her belief and her prayer."
So KenAllan, now you can see that what Catholics mean by "Tradition" (with a capital "T") is the Word of God itself, transmitted orally. The man who protests that all of the Word of God was, in fact, written down as Scripture needs to study Scripture, for it doesn’t say that at all. To begin: "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us." (1 Thess 2:15) (Of course "traditions" here is sometimes translated as "teachings": it is the same thing.)
The Bible has just commanded us to obey the teachings of the Apostles transmitted by mouth. But where is one to get these teachings? They are part of the Deposit of Faith that the Holy Spirit entrusted to His Church – the specific, visible, hierarchal Church that Christ founded. This Church’s hierarchy has the authority of the Apostles because the Apostles ordained them.
Christ commands us "Observe all that I commanded you." (Matt 28:20), yet John tells us "Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written" (John 21:15).
So in closing KA, (for now)
Something you "Sola Scripturist" fail to understand, is that the first gospel was not written until approximately seven years after the Ascension. The epistles were written throughout the mid-latter first century and the last book of the accepted New Testament canon (Revelations) written near the close of the century. However, there was at this time not anything close to a commonly accepted (must less infallibly defined) canon, but, rather, individual churches and regions had collections of books they considered inspired. So, for decades, Christians were saving their souls and dying for their faith without a common set of written Scriptures – and they were doing these things for centuries before "The Bible" as we know it existed. The doctrine of sola scriptura would have struck the Christians of the first few centuries as preposterous almost beyond comprehension.
Pax Christi
"from henceforth, all generationsshall call me Blessed." --- Luke 1:48.
In the mean time, I'd like to show one of the death-blows to sola scriptura that comes from Scripture itself is that it is made clear that the oral Word of God – that is, the Sacred Tradition of the Apostles – is equally valid and authoritative. In fact, Paul makes an appeal to oral Tradition immediately prior to this passage, in verse 14:
"But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it,"
*Paul is telling Timothy to believe what he learned from Paul and the other Apostles. Orally? Scripture makes it clear that that was in fact the normative means of transmitting the truths of the faith. In this very same letter, we have: What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus. (1 Tim 1:13); And the things you have heard me say in the presence of many witnesses entrust to reliable people who will also be qualified to teach others. (1 Tim 2:2).
*Would you object if I first define what we mean by "Tradition", since most Protestants misunderstand it.I would hope not. Anyhoo, are we speaking of traditions of men? No, not at all – we are speaking of the Word of God transmitted orally, as entrusted by Christ to the Apostles. This is some of what the Catechism of the Catholic Church has to say:
*75: "Christ the Lord, in whom the entire Revelation of the most high God is summed up, commanded the apostles to preach the Gospel, which had been promised beforehand by the prophets, and which he fulfilled in his own person and promulgated with his own lips. In preaching the Gospel, they were to communicate the gifts of God to all men. This Gospel was to be the source of all saving truth and moral discipline."
76: In keeping with the Lord's command, the Gospel was handed on in two ways:
- orally "by the apostles who handed on, by the spoken word of their preaching, by the example they gave, by the institutions they established, what they themselves had received - whether from the lips of Christ, from his way of life and his works, or whether they had learned it at the prompting of the Holy Spirit";
- in writing "by those apostles and other men associated with the apostles who, under the inspiration of the same Holy Spirit, committed the message of salvation to writing".
77: "In order that the full and living Gospel might always be preserved in the Church the apostles left bishops as their successors. They gave them their own position of teaching authority." Indeed, "the apostolic preaching, which is expressed in a special way in the inspired books, was to be preserved in a continuous line of succession until the end of time."
78: This living transmission, accomplished in the Holy Spirit, is called Tradition, since it is distinct from Sacred Scripture, though closely connected to it. Through Tradition, "the Church, in her doctrine, life and worship, perpetuates and transmits to every generation all that she herself is, all that she believes. The sayings of the holy Fathers are a witness to the life-giving presence of this Tradition, showing how its riches are poured out in the practice and life of the Church, in her belief and her prayer."
So KenAllan, now you can see that what Catholics mean by "Tradition" (with a capital "T") is the Word of God itself, transmitted orally. The man who protests that all of the Word of God was, in fact, written down as Scripture needs to study Scripture, for it doesn’t say that at all. To begin: "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us." (1 Thess 2:15) (Of course "traditions" here is sometimes translated as "teachings": it is the same thing.)
The Bible has just commanded us to obey the teachings of the Apostles transmitted by mouth. But where is one to get these teachings? They are part of the Deposit of Faith that the Holy Spirit entrusted to His Church – the specific, visible, hierarchal Church that Christ founded. This Church’s hierarchy has the authority of the Apostles because the Apostles ordained them.
Christ commands us "Observe all that I commanded you." (Matt 28:20), yet John tells us "Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written" (John 21:15).
So in closing KA, (for now)
Something you "Sola Scripturist" fail to understand, is that the first gospel was not written until approximately seven years after the Ascension. The epistles were written throughout the mid-latter first century and the last book of the accepted New Testament canon (Revelations) written near the close of the century. However, there was at this time not anything close to a commonly accepted (must less infallibly defined) canon, but, rather, individual churches and regions had collections of books they considered inspired. So, for decades, Christians were saving their souls and dying for their faith without a common set of written Scriptures – and they were doing these things for centuries before "The Bible" as we know it existed. The doctrine of sola scriptura would have struck the Christians of the first few centuries as preposterous almost beyond comprehension.Pax Christi
"from henceforth, all generationsshall call me Blessed." --- Luke 1:48.
Hey mec99, remember back on page 405 of this thread when you said;
And I replied... " Icons, statues and candles....Yes! To worship Mary? No!
If you really beleive that Catholics worship Mary, I would challenge you to go back to this church, and ask every Parishioner, Nun, or Priest, leaving or entering, if they are there for the purpose of worshiping The Blessed Virgin Mary. To find the truth, go to the source. I guarantee, if you do, you will walk away with a whole differnt way of thinking.
Don't take the word from the likes of valiant, Jackson123,or kenallen that have an anti-Catholic agenda, and despise the Catholic Church and her teachings. Go find out for yourself! If going to this church you speak if is not possible, go to the nearist Catholic Church, and do the same."
Did you ever do it? If not why not? Don't you want to learn the truth?
And then when you said:
And again I said:
"Really? If thats the case, would you mind giving me the City/State, and name of this Catholic Church/Parish you speak of? Most Catholic Churches have web-sites that depict the inside of their church, and I'm sure this church is no differnt. Now if what you say is to be true, I see no reason why you wouldn't."
Well..... I'm still waiting! Or was is all a load of B.S.? {rolling eyes}
Pax Christi
"from henceforth, all generations shall call me Blessed.' --- Luke 1:48
And I replied... " Icons, statues and candles....Yes! To worship Mary? No!
If you really beleive that Catholics worship Mary, I would challenge you to go back to this church, and ask every Parishioner, Nun, or Priest, leaving or entering, if they are there for the purpose of worshiping The Blessed Virgin Mary. To find the truth, go to the source. I guarantee, if you do, you will walk away with a whole differnt way of thinking.
Don't take the word from the likes of valiant, Jackson123,or kenallen that have an anti-Catholic agenda, and despise the Catholic Church and her teachings. Go find out for yourself! If going to this church you speak if is not possible, go to the nearist Catholic Church, and do the same."
Did you ever do it? If not why not? Don't you want to learn the truth?
And then when you said:
And again I said:
"Really? If thats the case, would you mind giving me the City/State, and name of this Catholic Church/Parish you speak of? Most Catholic Churches have web-sites that depict the inside of their church, and I'm sure this church is no differnt. Now if what you say is to be true, I see no reason why you wouldn't."
Well..... I'm still waiting! Or was is all a load of B.S.? {rolling eyes}
Pax Christi
"from henceforth, all generations shall call me Blessed.' --- Luke 1:48
You may have to wait untill he finishes polishing his Crystal Ball.
Pax
Pax
You know, I have been accused of hurling insults occasionally, and I have and I have apologised when appropriate, especially when the Holy Spirit will not let it rest. But seriously Gentlemen, to accuse someone of Hating God, I can't think of any insult greater than this! Yes, it hurts, but I stick it out with you nuts.
So if the Scriptures, which came from God, do not have all the Truth in them, then where is the Truth coming from that you Catholics claim is not in the Scriptures?
If its not from God then how can it be the Truth?
So what you Catholics are saying is the Catholic Church has Truths that God does not have. Interesting. So in other words you Catholics do not believe God is Omniscience.
Omniscience = infinite knowledge.
So you Catholics believe that God is not God because your Church has knowledge that God does not have. Talk about being a Cult.
You Catholics can rant and rave all you want against God and His Truths, but the bottom line is God will hold each and every one of you guilty for spreading lies in His name. Are you Catholics really willing to take the chance that God may not allow you to enter into Heaven for the lies you teach in His name?
"On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God, and observe it." --- Luke 11:28
Jesus Christ Himself has Blessed me more than Mary!
If its not from God then how can it be the Truth?
So what you Catholics are saying is the Catholic Church has Truths that God does not have. Interesting. So in other words you Catholics do not believe God is Omniscience.
Omniscience = infinite knowledge.
So you Catholics believe that God is not God because your Church has knowledge that God does not have. Talk about being a Cult.
You Catholics can rant and rave all you want against God and His Truths, but the bottom line is God will hold each and every one of you guilty for spreading lies in His name. Are you Catholics really willing to take the chance that God may not allow you to enter into Heaven for the lies you teach in His name?
"On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God, and observe it." --- Luke 11:28
Jesus Christ Himself has Blessed me more than Mary!
Its interesting fordman that you do not know the difference between the word "did" as oppose to the word "taught". What Jesus did and what He taught are two different things. Could it be fordman you do know the difference but because of your agenda against God you knowingly teach lies to deceive people into following the Catholic Church instead of God?
It does not matter what you say or do fordman for most of those on this site clearly see through your lies. Its very clear you and the Catholic Church is teaching a different Gospel. Did you know fordman by doing this God has said you are accursed?
Galatians 1:6-9
[SUP]6 [/SUP] I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel,
[SUP]7 [/SUP] which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
You fordman are accursed for teaching a different gospel. But you are not alone for the Roman Catholic Church is also accursed by God.
"On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God, and observe it." ...Luke 11:28
Therefore i am more Blessed than Mary.
It does not matter what you say or do fordman for most of those on this site clearly see through your lies. Its very clear you and the Catholic Church is teaching a different Gospel. Did you know fordman by doing this God has said you are accursed?
Galatians 1:6-9
[SUP]6 [/SUP] I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel,
[SUP]7 [/SUP] which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
You fordman are accursed for teaching a different gospel. But you are not alone for the Roman Catholic Church is also accursed by God.
"On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God, and observe it." ...Luke 11:28
Therefore i am more Blessed than Mary.
Its interesting mwc68 you claim us True Christians teach Catholic hate propaganda but yet you Catholics have shown hate for us True Christians for the last 500 years.
The Catholic Church has so much hate for us True Christians that the Catholic Church has put us to death just for Worshiping God.
On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God, and observe it." ...Luke 11:28
Therefore i am more Blessed than Mary
The Catholic Church has so much hate for us True Christians that the Catholic Church has put us to death just for Worshiping God.
On the contrary, blessed are those who hear the word of God, and observe it." ...Luke 11:28
Therefore i am more Blessed than Mary
Why do the Catholics love to call everyone anti-Catholic who read the Scriptures?
All i see is Ken saying Jesus said all those who hear the Word of God and observe it are Blessed. Why do the Catholics hate the very Word of God? Jesus does say we are Blessed who accept the Scriptures and obey them.
It seems to me the Catholics are trying to keep people away from the Truth in the Scriptures by saying if you read the Scriptures and observe them you must be anti-Catholic.
Do you Catholics really think God is on your side? How can you say you are a believer in Jesus Christ when you suppress the Truth in the Scriptures and teach the lies from the Catholic Church?
Many a Catholics will be upset when Jesus Himself casts them in the Lake of Fire.
Matthew 4:10
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' "
We are to Worship and serve God only. Its a shame Pope John II did not accept this before he died. Mary was his God.
All i see is Ken saying Jesus said all those who hear the Word of God and observe it are Blessed. Why do the Catholics hate the very Word of God? Jesus does say we are Blessed who accept the Scriptures and obey them.
It seems to me the Catholics are trying to keep people away from the Truth in the Scriptures by saying if you read the Scriptures and observe them you must be anti-Catholic.
Do you Catholics really think God is on your side? How can you say you are a believer in Jesus Christ when you suppress the Truth in the Scriptures and teach the lies from the Catholic Church?
Many a Catholics will be upset when Jesus Himself casts them in the Lake of Fire.
Matthew 4:10
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' "
We are to Worship and serve God only. Its a shame Pope John II did not accept this before he died. Mary was his God.
The Catholic Church did not appear until the 8th Century mwc68, so how can you claim the Catholic Church was the only Church?
See how the Catholics lie to try and deceive the very elect of God.
It does not matter what the Catholic Church say for we all know Mary was the God Pope John II worshiped. Therefore everything the Catholic Church says must be tossed out and only what God says in the Scriptures are we to accept.
We are to shine the light of the Holy Spirit on all the teachings of the Catholic Church. We are to expose all the darkness and evils from the Catholic Church.
Repent mwc68 before its too late and you end up in the Lake of Fire with Pope John II.
See how the Catholics lie to try and deceive the very elect of God.
It does not matter what the Catholic Church say for we all know Mary was the God Pope John II worshiped. Therefore everything the Catholic Church says must be tossed out and only what God says in the Scriptures are we to accept.
We are to shine the light of the Holy Spirit on all the teachings of the Catholic Church. We are to expose all the darkness and evils from the Catholic Church.
Repent mwc68 before its too late and you end up in the Lake of Fire with Pope John II.
*No my friend......... whats interesting is that you and other non-Catholics on this site claim the Bible is the only rule of faith, meaning that it contains all of the material one needs for theology and that this material is sufficiently clear that one does not need apostolic tradition or the Church’s magisterium (teaching authority) to help one understand it. In your view, the whole of Christian truth is found within the Bible’s pages. Anything extraneous to the Bible is simply non-authoritative, unnecessary, or wrong—and may well hinder one in coming to God.
*Whereas we Catholics, on the other hand, recognize that the Bible does not endorse this view and that, in fact, it is repudiated in Scripture. The true "rule of faith"—as expressed in the Bible itself—is Scripture plus apostolic tradition, as manifested in the living teaching authority of the Catholic Church, to which were entrusted the oral teachings of Jesus and the apostles, along with the authority to interpret Scripture correctly.
* *Really??? You have got to be kidding me!!! Have you not noticed all the differnt threads on this site where non-Catholics are giving their differnt views and interpretations and disagreeing of Scripture? All supposedly under the guidence of the Holy Spirit no-less. How do you explain that?
*Just think about it KA, all of the tens of thousands of Protestant denominations themselves are not united in Biblical doctrines and beliefs even though they have all the 27 NT books like the Catholics do. We Catholics on the other hand are united in doctrine, and dogmas.
* *Afraid not, and you have failed miserably to prove otherwise.
* *Is that right? Well, lets just see about that. Now regarding (Luke 11:27-28). If a verse is taken in isolation (as you and most protestants try to do) then it might look as if Our Lord was somehow "downplaying" the Virgin Mary's significance and role in salvation history. However, scripture must support scripture because it is the word of God, and God is NOT a liar NOR a deceiver.
*In (Luke 11:27-28) it says, "As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, "Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you."He replied, "Blessed rather are those who HEAR THE WORD OF GOD AND OBEY IT." Pay close attention to the last part of verse 28.
*So how do we reconcile (Luke 11:27-28) with the Catholic teaching about the Blessed Mother? (Luke 1:38) says, "And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it done to me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her."
*What did the Blessed Mother do in Luke 1:38? She HEARD THE WORD OF GOD AND OBEYED IT.
*And what is the mother of Our Lord called for hearing and obeying the word of God? Scripture says, "And it came to pass, as Elizabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: BLESSED art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.(Luke 1:41-42). Notice how scripture says that Elizabeth was "filled with the Holy Spirit" while she exclaimed that Mary was BLESSED.
*Then in (Luke 1:45) Elizabeth exclaims, "And BLESSED art thou that hast believed, because those things shall be accomplished that were spoken to thee by the Lord."
*Then a third time scripture clearly sates that Mary is BLESSED. (Luke 1:48).
*So if you now look back on Luke 11:27-28, when Jesus says, ""Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it." He is in fact referring to His mother Mary, and the fact that she is blessed (because Mary HEARD THE WORD OF GOD AND OBEYED IT).
*So KenAllan, for you to claim yourself to be "more" blessed than The Blessed Virgin Mary is just ludicrous!
Pax Christi
*"from henceforth, all generations shall call me Blessed." --- Luke 1:48.
*Whereas we Catholics, on the other hand, recognize that the Bible does not endorse this view and that, in fact, it is repudiated in Scripture. The true "rule of faith"—as expressed in the Bible itself—is Scripture plus apostolic tradition, as manifested in the living teaching authority of the Catholic Church, to which were entrusted the oral teachings of Jesus and the apostles, along with the authority to interpret Scripture correctly.
* *Really??? You have got to be kidding me!!! Have you not noticed all the differnt threads on this site where non-Catholics are giving their differnt views and interpretations and disagreeing of Scripture? All supposedly under the guidence of the Holy Spirit no-less. How do you explain that?
*Just think about it KA, all of the tens of thousands of Protestant denominations themselves are not united in Biblical doctrines and beliefs even though they have all the 27 NT books like the Catholics do. We Catholics on the other hand are united in doctrine, and dogmas.
* *Afraid not, and you have failed miserably to prove otherwise.
* *Is that right? Well, lets just see about that. Now regarding (Luke 11:27-28). If a verse is taken in isolation (as you and most protestants try to do) then it might look as if Our Lord was somehow "downplaying" the Virgin Mary's significance and role in salvation history. However, scripture must support scripture because it is the word of God, and God is NOT a liar NOR a deceiver.
*In (Luke 11:27-28) it says, "As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, "Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you."He replied, "Blessed rather are those who HEAR THE WORD OF GOD AND OBEY IT." Pay close attention to the last part of verse 28.
*So how do we reconcile (Luke 11:27-28) with the Catholic teaching about the Blessed Mother? (Luke 1:38) says, "And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it done to me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her."
*What did the Blessed Mother do in Luke 1:38? She HEARD THE WORD OF GOD AND OBEYED IT.
*And what is the mother of Our Lord called for hearing and obeying the word of God? Scripture says, "And it came to pass, as Elizabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: BLESSED art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.(Luke 1:41-42). Notice how scripture says that Elizabeth was "filled with the Holy Spirit" while she exclaimed that Mary was BLESSED.
*Then in (Luke 1:45) Elizabeth exclaims, "And BLESSED art thou that hast believed, because those things shall be accomplished that were spoken to thee by the Lord."
*Then a third time scripture clearly sates that Mary is BLESSED. (Luke 1:48).
*So if you now look back on Luke 11:27-28, when Jesus says, ""Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it." He is in fact referring to His mother Mary, and the fact that she is blessed (because Mary HEARD THE WORD OF GOD AND OBEYED IT).
*So KenAllan, for you to claim yourself to be "more" blessed than The Blessed Virgin Mary is just ludicrous!
Pax Christi
*"from henceforth, all generations shall call me Blessed." --- Luke 1:48.
Actually the Catholic Church did not start with Peter and its you and the rest of the Catholics who are propagating misinformation. Its you Catholics who are the bigots spreading your lies as Truths from God when we all know they are lies from Satan you God.
The Protestant Church is Christs Church. The Catholic Church is Satan's Church.
The Protestant Church is Christs Church. The Catholic Church is Satan's Church.