God did away with some of His own sayings

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I was just wondering how people can demean God's character be saying God did away with this or that of certain things He said previously in Biblical history. All that is revealed from a person that continues to say such things are showing that they can only see the carnal physical aspects of what should be seen as spiritual in the New Covenant. Can a person truthfully say that they have the indwelling Spirit in such cases, refusing to define, or being incapable of defining the spiritual understanding of God's spoken word?

It also should frighten some that say this, for it is clear that they are taking the “Lord's name in vain.” I read in posts quite often when referring to God's spoken word that He did away with it.
“God did away with that.”
“God did away with that.”
“That's been made void.”
“That part of His word has been abolished.”

That rhetoric repeated over and over actually makes me sick inside. Will we ever get past the carnal mindset by consistently labeling things as carnal when we should actually be searching diligently for the spiritual truth in all God has ever spoken?
 
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Hebrews 9:8-10 KJV
[8] The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: [9] Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; [10] Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

the tabernacle/temple done away with for better things
 
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crossnote said:
Hebrews 9:8-10 KJV
[8] The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: [9] Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; [10] Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
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"But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;" Hebrews 9:11
 
just-me said:
I was just wondering how people can demean God's character be saying God did away with this or that of certain things He said previously in Biblical history. All that is revealed from a person that continues to say such things are showing that they can only see the carnal physical aspects of what should be seen as spiritual in the New Covenant. Can a person truthfully say that they have the indwelling Spirit in such cases, refusing to define, or being incapable of defining the spiritual understanding of God's spoken word?

It also should frighten some that say this, for it is clear that they are taking the “Lord's name in vain.” I read in posts quite often when referring to God's spoken word that He did away with it.
“God did away with that.”
“God did away with that.”
“That's been made void.”
“That part of His word has been abolished.”

That rhetoric repeated over and over actually makes me sick inside. Will we ever get past the carnal mindset by consistently labeling things as carnal when we should actually be searching diligently for the spiritual truth in all God has ever spoken?
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Why does what God has done make you sick inside?
 
FreeNChrist said:
Why does what God has done make you sick inside?
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I didn't say that. I said "That rhetoric repeated over and over actually makes me sick inside" referring what people say like “God did away with that.” “That's been made void.” “That part of His word has been abolished.” God's spoken word doesn't make me sick at all.
 
just-me said:
I didn't say that. I said "That rhetoric repeated over and over actually makes me sick inside" referring what people say like “God did away with that.” “That's been made void.” “That part of His word has been abolished.” God's spoken word doesn't make me sick at all.
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What "spoken word"?
 
crossnote said:
Right, did away with the first to be replaced by a better Temple.
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What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 1 Corinthians 6:19

And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 2 Corinthians 6:16

And I will take you to me for a people, and I will be to you a God: and ye shall know that I am the Lord your God, which bringeth you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians. Exodus 6:7

And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people. Leviticus 26:12

And the spiral aspects still apply.

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. Romans 12:1
 
just-me said:
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 1 Corinthians 6:19

And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 2 Corinthians 6:16

And I will take you to me for a people, and I will be to you a God: and ye shall know that I am the Lord your God, which bringeth you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians. Exodus 6:7

And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people. Leviticus 26:12

And the spiral aspects still apply.

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. Romans 12:1
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you should not just randomly connect verses. as your picture says, it is not a bag of trail mix. maybe you should work on keeping your own rules instead of false teaching that Christ followers must keep the O.T. law.
 
gb9 said:
you should not just randomly connect verses. as your picture says, it is not a bag of trail mix. maybe you should work on keeping your own rules instead of false teaching that Christ followers must keep the O.T. law.
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What are you trying to say?
Matthew 7:16-20
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
 
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just-me said:
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 1 Corinthians 6:19

And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 2 Corinthians 6:16

And I will take you to me for a people, and I will be to you a God: and ye shall know that I am the Lord your God, which bringeth you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians. Exodus 6:7

And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people. Leviticus 26:12

And the spiral aspects still apply.

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. Romans 12:1
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Again He did away with the first for a better Covenant...

Hebrews 8:7-8 KJV
[7] For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. [8] For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
 
just-me said:
What are you trying to say?
Matthew 7:16-20
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
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you do understand the Bible is not a book. it is a collection of books and letters hundreds of years and dozens of people apart. now, while it is in harmony you and no one else should just pluck out verses to make a point. some have nothing to do with each other. the O.T. and N.T. are called thus for a reason.
 
gb9 said:
you should not just randomly connect verses. as your picture says, it is not a bag of trail mix. maybe you should work on keeping your own rules instead of false teaching that Christ followers must keep the O.T. law.
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HOW IS IT... that you come to the "bolded" conclusion????
 
gb9 said:
you do understand the Bible is not a book. it is a collection of books and letters hundreds of years and dozens of people apart. now, while it is in harmony you and no one else should just pluck out verses to make a point. some have nothing to do with each other. the O.T. and N.T. are called thus for a reason.
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The OT precedes New Covenant history... It is the very foundation of Christianity and the HISTORICAL/PROPHETIC proof for Christ to come. CHRIST is founded in the OT... it is not merely OLD and NEW.
 
The fact that there are two covenants, one old and another new points to the fact that one is fulfilled, or "abolished." Once you pay your mortgage on a house, I would recommend you stop sending payments to the bank. Its been fulfilled, in the same way we are no longer under Law trying to fulfill its requirements. Jesus did that on our behalf, and has imputed His righteousness to us.

I don't see why it sickens you when people say a particular part of God's Word doesn't apply to us, as we have gone from one covenant to another. You can't take that which is of the old and mix it with the new, unless the new states it as well. Its like a lot of the things Jesus said before He died on the cross and resurrected on the third day, it was to people under the Law, not in the new covenant reality of grace. For example, forgive others or the Lord won't forgive you. Thats an old testament principle. In the new it is stated that we forgive others as the Lord has forgiven us, meaning we already have the forgiveness. That is just one example.

Its all about rightly dividing the Word. Don't put Law into grace, because you then nullify it. That is why there is a distinction, that is why somethings are now 'void.' Mixture or balancing of Law and grace takes away from both, one is self-righteousness and the other imputed, no work of your own. You can't mix the two, it doesn't work.
 
BarlyGurl said:
The OT precedes New Covenant history... It is the very foundation of Christianity and the HISTORICAL/PROPHETIC proof for Christ to come. CHRIST is founded in the OT... it is not merely OLD and NEW.
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This is true, but doesn't negate what has been said. You can't mix the two covenants as one, they are respectfully distinctive. One is meant to lead you to the other, to Jesus Christ through which you are then under a new covenant reality of grace.
 
BarlyGurl said:
The OT precedes New Covenant history... It is the very foundation of Christianity and the HISTORICAL/PROPHETIC proof for Christ to come. CHRIST is founded in the OT... it is not merely OLD and NEW.
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The OT is not the foundation of Christianity, the Lord Jesus Christ Himself is the foundation of our faith/Christianity.

The OT is the standard to point one to Christ as the letter of the law brought condemnation, but grace through faith in the Lord brought eternal life.
 
KennethC said:
The OT is not the foundation of Christianity, the Lord Jesus Christ Himself is the foundation of our faith/Christianity.

The OT is the standard to point one to Christ as the letter of the law brought condemnation, but grace through faith in the Lord brought eternal life.
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Kenneth... you are knee-jerk contending these days... relax... IF you re-read my comment as en ENTIRE THOUGHT... not just take a few words to argue about? You do not like it when others do this to you.
 
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