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From “The Lost Book of Peter”
And Simon said: “Your scripture says: ‘and God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.’ Now, ‘let us make,’ implies two or more; certainly not one only.”
And Peter answered: “God is three identities, the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost, all of which are one. A tree we consider as one, yet it has a root, trunk and limbs; then leaves and fruit. Starting with the root, the rest of the tree is an extension. The root of the tree controls while the rest of the tree springs forth from the root. Therefore the root would represent God; the trunk and limbs are our Teacher and King, Christ; the fruit of the tree would be considered the Holy Spirit - three separate, but the one same tree. Man’s body is one, yet it has multiple parts that do the will of the mind. The mind says to the hands: ‘stretch out and create.’ It says to the mouth: ‘speak forth my words, thoughts and will.’ God said to His Wisdom: ‘Let us make a man.’ But His Wisdom was that with Whom He Himself always rejoiced as with His own spirit, God united as one, yet extended out, as a hand, creating the universe, just as your hand is a ‘hand’ of itself yet is united to you as part of the body as a whole. Also, one man was made, and from him a female went forth. So God Himself looks upon man and wife as one: ‘A man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ Man and wife are two, but to God they are one. Therefore I offer up the honor to One God as if Parents.
And Peter: “No one knows the Father but the Son, nor does anyone know the Son but the Father, and they to whom the Son may wish to reveal Him. I am amazed that you would think the statement is made in reference to the ignorance of the Creator (Demiurge to Simon), and all who are under him. You claim Christ was the son of David and not the Son of God. The reason you are confused is, as I have said, that the Son will not reveal Himself to unbelievers. He gives that revelation to whom He wishes. He gave the knowledge to Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses. This revelation has all along been given only to the people who were worthy. We were taught not to get frustrated at those who cannot understand, because God has a block on their minds. They are blinded to the truth.
“It is now possible for all to know Him through His Son Jesus. ‘I have concealed these things from the wise, and have revealed them to sucking babes.’
“Aren’t you, Simon, the standing one, who has the boldness to make these statements which never have been made before?”
And Simon said: “Your scripture says: ‘and God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.’ Now, ‘let us make,’ implies two or more; certainly not one only.”
And Peter answered: “God is three identities, the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost, all of which are one. A tree we consider as one, yet it has a root, trunk and limbs; then leaves and fruit. Starting with the root, the rest of the tree is an extension. The root of the tree controls while the rest of the tree springs forth from the root. Therefore the root would represent God; the trunk and limbs are our Teacher and King, Christ; the fruit of the tree would be considered the Holy Spirit - three separate, but the one same tree. Man’s body is one, yet it has multiple parts that do the will of the mind. The mind says to the hands: ‘stretch out and create.’ It says to the mouth: ‘speak forth my words, thoughts and will.’ God said to His Wisdom: ‘Let us make a man.’ But His Wisdom was that with Whom He Himself always rejoiced as with His own spirit, God united as one, yet extended out, as a hand, creating the universe, just as your hand is a ‘hand’ of itself yet is united to you as part of the body as a whole. Also, one man was made, and from him a female went forth. So God Himself looks upon man and wife as one: ‘A man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ Man and wife are two, but to God they are one. Therefore I offer up the honor to One God as if Parents.
And Peter: “No one knows the Father but the Son, nor does anyone know the Son but the Father, and they to whom the Son may wish to reveal Him. I am amazed that you would think the statement is made in reference to the ignorance of the Creator (Demiurge to Simon), and all who are under him. You claim Christ was the son of David and not the Son of God. The reason you are confused is, as I have said, that the Son will not reveal Himself to unbelievers. He gives that revelation to whom He wishes. He gave the knowledge to Adam, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Moses. This revelation has all along been given only to the people who were worthy. We were taught not to get frustrated at those who cannot understand, because God has a block on their minds. They are blinded to the truth.
“It is now possible for all to know Him through His Son Jesus. ‘I have concealed these things from the wise, and have revealed them to sucking babes.’
“Aren’t you, Simon, the standing one, who has the boldness to make these statements which never have been made before?”
The trinity is not comparable to a man who is a husband son and father all at the same time,I am a husband,father and son all at the same time yet I don't call myself "my father" if I ever use the phrase "my father " I'm talking about my dad who is still alive but even if he wasn't I'd still be referring to him just as Jesus is referring to his father when he calls him " my father ". They are two different entities,seperate,not joined in any way,Jesus May have powers that match his fathers but that still doesn't mean just because they can do the same things they are the same being.my father and me can both sing the same songs,that doesn't make us the same person,I'm his son,he's my father.
Even in these inspired words it says the three are seperate,The Father,The Son,The Holy Spirit making up One GOD,so if there are three parts to the trinity jesus is one part of the trinity so he is not God! Just like he is not the Holy Spirit,god is not jesus or the Holy Spirit,the Holy Spirit is not jesus or god. How can you still say Jesus is God ? It's plain enough to see from inspired writings. This is why the Holy number is 7. The three seperate parts of god can be in 7 different permutations.lets call god no' 1,jesus no'2 and the Holy Spirit no'3. They can be seperate 1,2and 3.they can be in pairs 1and2,1and3,2and3 and they can all be together 1and2and3 so there are 7 seperate states they can be in. G is also the 7th letter of the alphabet,the world was created in 6 days plus 1 day to rest = 7 days.
How can you say the trinity is not the result of counted things? The word "trinity" wouldn't be included in "the holy trinity" if it didn't mean more than 1, ie three?? Do you actually think for yourself or just quote scripture? Even you say the godhead is made up of God the father,Jesus and the Holy Spirit !!! That's Three things!!! You also deny the trinity when you say each person is the one god but not the other person,if 1 of the trinity can be god,why is there any need for three?
When the bible tells us to be like god,which of the three are we to be like,we can't be like the Holy Spirit because we are human and cannot enter people and impregnate them in a dream,?if we try to be like god do we go around killing people that don't worship us properly or worship someone else or worse still,order others to kill whole tribes of people because they've occupied our land? Or do we be like jesus who died and came back to life? As far as I know,humans can't do this either
The word Trinity is an epithet representing the entirety of scripture, as God has chosen to reveal Himself.
Three Persons; One Being.
The Trinity is not the result of counted things - if it was, then just the word 'three' would have been used.
Each Person of The Trinity does not need to be the other in order to each be the one God.
Its simple logic.
Again....look to my avatar for guidance.
Three Persons; One Being.
The Trinity is not the result of counted things - if it was, then just the word 'three' would have been used.
Each Person of The Trinity does not need to be the other in order to each be the one God.
Its simple logic.
Again....look to my avatar for guidance.
“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.”
-If the Holy Spirit is an actual being that lives in us, certainly it would be the “mediator”
between us and God. But Paul says Jesus Christ is the mediator between us and God
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.(holy spirit is a gift) acts2:38
-If the Holy Spirit is an actual being that lives in us, certainly it would be the “mediator”
between us and God. But Paul says Jesus Christ is the mediator between us and God
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.(holy spirit is a gift) acts2:38
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It's not simple logic,it's very confusing and it's somthing that was made up by man to get around all the obvious problems of catholics worshiping idols,ie jesus.The OT is very clear about worshiping only GOD and knowone else.the NT was written by people who wanted to promote Jesus and they made prophecies fit his life after the event,I recently made Jimi Hendrix fulfil 10 messianic prophecies in only 1 hour and that includes me looking up the relevant verses as I'm not a scholar.this can be done with any famous person,Jesus DIDNOT fullfill all the required prophecies and the argument that He will fulfil them when he returns is rubbish,knowhere in any prophecie does it say the messiah will come three times! He was born to Mary,that's his first coming,he died on the cross and rose from the dead 3days later,that's his second coming! It's also in scripture that the messiah will come from the line of King David,in biblical times a persons linage was determined through the male bloodline not the female,knowone else's bloodline is determined through there mothers bloodline so we can discount Mary,Jospeth was not Jesus's father,God was,how can God be a desendant of a man? I've heard all the arguments about taking the bible to literally but we are also told to take some things literally,this is an easy get out for Christians,you can pick and chose when scripture is to read literally or with a hidden meaning!! Why is the messiah prophesised to be called Immanuel ?? You say his name was jesus,that's how His name was translated from Hebrew to Greek,Jesus not Immanuel ??? They would be completely different words? Is this a mistake in the bible? You also say there are no mistakes in the bible as all the bible,OT and NT is inspired? Please explain just one thing to me,why was the messiah called Jesus and not as prophecised,Immanuel ?