Three major things the legalistic Pharisees didn't recognize.
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K
Oh heck. Just ignore the redundant refutations, and then let us talk about where judgment, mercy and faith is found in the law since there seems to be a clear cut fear of others wanting to do that. Deal?
Page 17, and no one except myself (by quoting scripture) has wanted this to be conversed, even though I supposedly quoted scripture out of context. (say what??? LOL)
Do the refuters of this post compare themselves with the Pharisees that rejected God's Word or something? Or do they think we are? No worry.
Page 17, and no one except myself (by quoting scripture) has wanted this to be conversed, even though I supposedly quoted scripture out of context. (say what??? LOL)
Do the refuters of this post compare themselves with the Pharisees that rejected God's Word or something? Or do they think we are? No worry.
They try to claim we are Pharisees by falsely accusing us of law keeping, but the funny thing is that the Pharisees got called hypocrites because they did not keep or obey the law they taught and instead twisted it for personal gain and self recognition.
Examples of Mercy shown in the OT:
Moses and David murdered another, yet the Lord our God showed mercy to them when they repented !!!
David also committed adultery which is another punishable crime by death in the law, again God showed mercy to him for this sin.
Even before the law was in place in written form God showed mercy to Cain !!!
E
I think that verse fits well as it was stated.
It goes right along with what moses said, Cursed is anyone who does not CONFIRM and OBEY ALL THE WORDS of this law. And the children shall say amen.
both are calling for perfection. Which Israel should have known. Which is why they should have received Christ with open arms, Because they KNEW they could not obey the law as God required.
But no. Their pride did not allow them to.
So God exposed them, by proving they did not obey the law as required (he used three things against them) yet they still were blind to what he was trying to say,
and here we are 2000 years later. and people are still blind to what he was trying to say.
It goes right along with what moses said, Cursed is anyone who does not CONFIRM and OBEY ALL THE WORDS of this law. And the children shall say amen.
both are calling for perfection. Which Israel should have known. Which is why they should have received Christ with open arms, Because they KNEW they could not obey the law as God required.
But no. Their pride did not allow them to.
So God exposed them, by proving they did not obey the law as required (he used three things against them) yet they still were blind to what he was trying to say,
and here we are 2000 years later. and people are still blind to what he was trying to say.
E
no just-me...you see, the Holy Spirit is what makes us all one in Christ and we are to be subject to one another...so, it is incorrect to believe that in some way God has fashionned an island out of you!
No, I do not stand now or at any time in the future before my God all Alone...I am sealed by HIS Spirit as are ALL believers IN Christ and God will see Christ in my stead and declare me righteous as He has already declared me righteous...praise God...lately every time I write or think such things I find myself bubbling up inside and I know this is God's Spirit affirming the truth of His words as testimony and witness to what He reveals from God Himself!
You see, the Holy Spirit does not speak for Himself and He never forces and He does abide in those who are God's. He speaks what is of God only
You should indeed be concerned if I am filled with the Spirit of God, because if I am not, then what does that make me?
You cannot judge spiritual things by your flesh and that is where you fail in every attempt to judge those who disagree with you by calling us pharisees
We are not pharisees, but see, judge yourself, that you not be found a castaway as was even Paul's concern...now there is a sobering thought...see, as you judge, so are you judged
Do you judge righteously or do you judge by human reasoning?
Those in Christ are not found wanting in any manner, so your judgement becomes as nothing
It actually IS nothing...nothing at all!
It is actually yourself that has done the cha cha more than any other person responding in this thread. You have created a total aversion to questions and attempted to reprimand us all by referring to a religious sect that none of us have entered into and yet you persist that this is the comparison when Christ said nothing of the kind! this is truly all just of your own making!
well now, let's take a look at that verse:
23Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 24Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
I am filled with the Holy Spirit and, as is in the original language, I am being being filled...that is, the action is constant
Again, you are creating a false dichtonomy and attempting to divert from the truth of what we are trying to get across to you by crying WOLF! WOLF! where there is no wolf and no pharisee
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E
uh...just no
you cannot rebuke a Christian with the Name of Christ
that has been done before and it does not work
you have no authority over the Holy Spirit in another believer
apparently you cannot discuss without somehow imagining yourself also above others
this is not the devil here...this is flesh objecting to being wrong and I am sorry to say that would be yourself and just-me at this point
K
Exodus 23 shows some examples of justice and mercy as well............
20 “See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. 21 Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him.
This above passage seems to be saying the same as what our Lord Jesus said to us about sending us the Holy Spirit and not blasphemy against Him as it will not be forgiven !!!
What does it matter if we find those three in the Law? I ask, again, what is the point? The Law is not of faith...
Galatians 3:12King James Version (KJV)
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
You want to show examples of judgement, mercy and faith in the law to what end?
Galatians 3:12King James Version (KJV)
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
You want to show examples of judgement, mercy and faith in the law to what end?
K
It is only irrelevant if you are doing all that you do for the love of God, but if you are not doing it for God then that means you are doing it for self and thus makes you a transgressor.
Remember we are told some will continue to esteem one day above others, and other people will look at all days alike. As long as we are doing what we do in those days for God then neither is in the wrong.
Remember we are told some will continue to esteem one day above others, and other people will look at all days alike. As long as we are doing what we do in those days for God then neither is in the wrong.
K
And again this is speaking on the written ordinances of the Mosaic law, not the moral (Spiritual) aspect of it that we are told will be written in our hearts and minds.
The written ordinances are not of faith because they brought condemnation because the flesh is weak and thus the Jews focused on the written aspect and not the moral of justice, mercy, and faith. Some of the Jews did just as the Galatians did they sought out justification by written ordinance keeping which was impossible in the flesh !!!
The written ordinances are not of faith because they brought condemnation because the flesh is weak and thus the Jews focused on the written aspect and not the moral of justice, mercy, and faith. Some of the Jews did just as the Galatians did they sought out justification by written ordinance keeping which was impossible in the flesh !!!
E
so what your saying is, If I am doing good deeds for self (say like, to keep salvation) I am a transgressor.
That makes sense though, Jesus said many will say I do all this stuff in your name, but he never knew them because they were transgressors..
oh and by the way, SO now your saying it is ok to not obey the law?
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Obviously this is Christ before His physical birth. Amen! The giving of the first stone tablets and the giving of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost are on the same day in the 3rd month.
There is also more about David you referred to in you previous post concerning his fornication and the mercy of God according to the law.
Check this out 2 Samuel 12:1-7 in relation to Exodus 22:1
There is also more about David you referred to in you previous post concerning his fornication and the mercy of God according to the law.
Check this out 2 Samuel 12:1-7 in relation to Exodus 22:1