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Yes we CAN know the Truth and we can know ALL the Truth in the Scriptures from God because we DO have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit who teaches us the Truth.

1 John 2:26-27
[SUP]26 [/SUP] I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you.
[SUP]27 [/SUP] But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie—just as it has taught you, abide in him.

What most people do not understand nor care to understand is that its the Holy Spirit that teaches us what is the Truth and what is a lie. All those who say we cannot know the Truth do not have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

WE do not need the teachings of the Catholic Church. We do not need the teachings of the World. We do have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit who does teach us all Truths.

I see many many people on this site who do not have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit because no one who does have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit will ever teach the lies of Satan as Truths from God.

John 14:15-17
[SUP]15 [/SUP] “If you love me, you will keep my commandments.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever,
[SUP]17 [/SUP] even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

The Holy Spirit dwells in me and teaches me all Truths. For someone to say they cannot know the Truth does not have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

This is what Paul said about the Truth.

2 Corinthians 11:10
[SUP]10 [/SUP] As the truth of Christ is in me, this boasting of mine will not be silenced in the regions of Achaia.

As the Truth IS in me and all the True Christians, we cannot be silenced by Satan and his church the Catholic Church.
 

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Yes we CAN know the Truth and we can know ALL the Truth in the Scriptures from God because we DO have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit who teaches us the Truth.

1 John 2:26-27
[SUP]26 [/SUP] I write these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you.
[SUP]27 [/SUP] But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie—just as it has taught you, abide in him.

What most people do not understand nor care to understand is that its the Holy Spirit that teaches us what is the Truth and what is a lie. All those who say we cannot know the Truth do not have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

WE do not need the teachings of the Catholic Church. We do not need the teachings of the World. We do have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit who does teach us all Truths.

I see many many people on this site who do not have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit because no one who does have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit will ever teach the lies of Satan as Truths from God.

John 14:15-17
[SUP]15 [/SUP] “If you love me, you will keep my commandments.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever,
[SUP]17 [/SUP] even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

The Holy Spirit dwells in me and teaches me all Truths. For someone to say they cannot know the Truth does not have the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

This is what Paul said about the Truth.

2 Corinthians 11:10
[SUP]10 [/SUP] As the truth of Christ is in me, this boasting of mine will not be silenced in the regions of Achaia.

As the Truth IS in me and all the True Christians, we cannot be silenced by Satan and his church the Catholic Church.
If you know the whole truth then you lack nothing and have nothing more to learn but we as humans we even as followers of Christ always have more to learn more to grow in more to mature and more to desire in Christ, I find it a bit arrogant and prideful to say that the Catholic church or even a believer within the Christ family knows the full truth and I say this as kindly as I can it is in now way meant to be an insult.

If you know the full truth then you can give me the answer to this question- What is the greatest treasure in all of heaven?
 

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Thanks Epostle, There's a lot to read and study. I'll get back to you. Blessings!
Your welcome. Please keep the number of questions down to one or two. I look forward to hearing from you.
 
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Matthew 13:44
[SUP]44 [/SUP] “The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and covered up. Then in his joy he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field.

2 Corinthians 4:6-7
[SUP]6 [/SUP] For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] But we have this treasure in jars of clay, to show that the surpassing power belongs to God and not to us.


The greatest Treasure IS the Kingdom of Heaven, and the Greatest Treasure IS the the Truth from Jesus Christ!

There is nothing greater then following Jesus and entering into Heaven with Him!
 

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Matthew 13:44
[SUP]44 [/SUP] “The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and covered up. Then in his joy he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field.

2 Corinthians 4:6-7
[SUP]6 [/SUP] For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] But we have this treasure in jars of clay, to show that the surpassing power belongs to God and not to us.


The greatest Treasure IS the Kingdom of Heaven, and the Greatest Treasure IS the the Truth from Jesus Christ!

There is nothing greater then following Jesus and entering into Heaven with Him!
Is that so? Well if that is the treasure you seek it is a good one but as for me I am after treasures that nothing in all of heaven can even come close in comparison. I am after the greatest of treasures that David knew and sought after as well, David and I have always seemed to be similar I have always connected to him as I read Psalms.

You see the treasure I seek is the very heart Of God I want him and I want all of him. I want to truly know him and I want a love with him that is far richer and far deeper than what anyone even those in all of the bible knew could even exist between him and us. Heaven is said to have the most beauty and amazement things we could never imagine riches and glory peace love joy and laughter forever more, but you see heaven and all that is in all that awaits us came from one place and one place only and that is from him it was his heart that made all that heaven is.

God can give me all the glory all the riches all the honor the crowns the titles and mansions he can give me all that heaven has to offer but none of it to me is even close to having him himself to have a love with him and adoration that has no limits that is beyond what anyone ever could have imagined. it isn't enough for me to make it to heaven and be with him in heaven I desire to truly know him to look into his eyes and see the love that is in them to see the vast wonder and beauty he radiates simply because of who he is to have my heart and his heart become one to connect in a way that no one ever has been able to simply because I want to go that far in him I want to see just how strong how vast how rich how beautiful a love with him can be.

This is the greatest treasure in all of heaven my friend, he was always the ultimate treasure and not even heaven or even eternal life can compare to this treasure I am after. I would even go to hell if it meant I could be with him because my heaven my home where my heart belongs is in his arms wherever that may be
 
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Entering into Heaven WITH God is a VERY great treasure!

You do not understand. Without God NOBODY can enter into Heaven. When we accept Jesus AS our Lord and Savior we invite Jesus into us to live in us! We do have Jesus IN us!

You do know Jesus dwells in us just like the Holy Spirit?

Romans 8:9
[SUP]9 [/SUP] You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.

Jesus IS indwelling in US! How much greater can you receive then this!

Romans 8:11
[SUP]11 [/SUP] If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

You must understand Blain that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit Indwells within us!

There IS nothing greater than this! And this is what we receive when we receive Salvation!

We do have the Heart of God the minute we accept Him as our Lord and Savior!

You only see one part of the greatest treasure. There are many parts of the greatest treasure. You were close to the Truth Blain.
 
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October 26, 2015 at 4:18 AM
The Miraculous Power of the Crusade Prayers and the Messages
Introduction
We had been praying for and trying to help a Crusade Prayer Group member’s son.
Following is the testimony of Graham at a Crusade Prayer Group Meeting
on Thursday, 24th September, 2015 at Veronica’s house:
Graham’s Testimony:
Hello everybody.
My name is Graham, and I have a story I would like to share with the world.
To believers, but most importantly, non-believers.
I started life in a public school, for which I have little memory. I started at Catholic School in Year 4, in Australia – that’s approximately 10 years old. While I was at this Catholic school I became an Altar boy and attended Mass so regularly I knew the service by heart. During this time, apart from the pretty normal troubles kids have, my life was normal. I also had and have a wonderful loving family. I continued going to Catholic School and serving as an Altar boy until I was 13 years old and then we moved to a Government Housing area.
I was very easily influenced and quickly fell into the wrong crowd. My Mum tried to keep us going to Church, but my brothers and I had other things we wanted to do. Once I stopped going to Church, my life began to descend into utter chaos. I started stealing, lying, having sex, disobeying my parents, and so much more. Needless to say, I ended up in Children’s jail. I served probably 18 months of my teenage years incarcerated.
When I got out, I managed to stay out of trouble with the Law of man, but continued to sin HORRIBLY, all the while CLAIMING to be Christian and to have faith. At around 22 I got addicted to Heroin, my God please forgive me for those years of my life, so Godless. I stole from EVERYONE! I had allowed myself to drift so far from God, that things I once would never DREAM of doing, I was now doing without batting an eyelid. My shame was, and still is, so great.
I managed to get away from this life style, thank God, but trouble, anger, problems and everything that could go wrong did go wrong still, so I retreated into online gaming, to escape reality. Here I met someone that became a good friend, but after a while he introduced me to The Lost Book of Enki, and I realised he was a God hater. I MUST be honest, I was sucked in by this obviously well put together ancient tablet. I actually started to believe some of it. After about a month of reading and research, which for a reason I didn’t understand at the time, I had an insatiable desire to absorb more and more information. Then I discovered that these tablets described the lies of one of the fallen ones.. The Egyptian gods. Once I started to see that these beings actually walked the Earth, and that SO much of what I found PROVES the bible is TRUTH, I came back to God in a way I never thought I would!!
I don’t believe anymore, I KNOW!! So I decided I wanted to follow God to the letter, and started to study the bible. Before long I found myself flooded with what I had no idea were Protestant type questions that I desperately needed answers for. Nothing anyone could tell me could convince me that the Catholic Church was right. I even attacked the prayers that we say to our most Blessed Virgin Mother, please God forgive me, saying we should pray to God alone. I kept researching and reading and everything led me to Protestant conclusions.
My Mum told me I was talking like a Protestant, so I tried to contact a Protestant Church. However, I ended up in touch with a Baptist Minister. He came to my home, we spoke about my concerns, we read the Bible and we prayed. He invited me to their Sunday service and I attended. They were lovely people, with the best of intentions, but the service that’s meant to WORSHIP God was so much less than that. I visited my Mum the following week and she gave me a book to read, “Warning from the Beyond”. TRY TO GET THIS BOOK!! After a very short time of reading, I was FILLED with grief, sadness, a horrible emptiness, followed by a feeling of CERTAINTY that Mary is INDEED our Most BLESSED Virgin Mother.
The following day my mother took me to meet the most dedicated, holy loving people I’ve EVER met!! If heaven will be full of people like these, BELIEVE me, YOU WANT TO BE THERE! I immediately felt like family. We started to pray the Rosary, and MANY other prayers, and during this prayer session the most AMAZING thing happened.(Graham is talking about our Crusade Prayer Group and the Crusade prayers).
I saw first a flash of light, followed by a dim illuminessence of the entire room, it slowly got brighter and brighter. I’m not sure how long it remained as I closed my eyes. At the time I thought someone had simply switched on the light and turned it up. The problem with this solution is, we were in a room on a bright sunny day with a HUGE window that had the curtain opened all the way. When I mentioned it to my mum, she had no idea what I was talking about, and no one else saw it either. That’s not possible, it was SO BRIGHT!!
Also during the rosary, we were doing Sorrowful Mysteries, I felt the most horrible feeling of betrayal, abandonment, loneliness and emptiness. I was so emotional I found it hard to pray. I now know this was a sign for me, reassuring that what we were doing was VERY pleasing to God.
I now know it was all one big journey guided by God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit and the Blessed Virgin Mary to open my eyes to the evil ones that will soon be here, if they’re not already. And that I had all those questions so I could learn the answers to help those needing answers after the Illumination of conscience. I believe this to be the same reason God led me to meet the Baptists too, we got along very well. This opens options for them too, they can seek answers from someone who loves and serves God that they know.
People, if God still has time for this lowly sinner, he has time for us all. I hope that condensing something that should be a novel down to one page doesn’t take away from the message contained within. God NEVER gives up on us, it is MANKIND that have given up on him. WE ALL NEED TO PRAY!!
Please pray the rosary as OFTEN as you can! It’s our best weapon against the evil ones.
Pray for the Priests, Cardinals, and Bishops.
Pray for the Souls in Purgatory.
Our time is short!! Christ is coming.
God bless you.
Conversation between Graham and Donna (member of prayer group) after writing the testimony:
On Fri, Oct 2, Donna wrote:
“Ok firstly your testimony is AMAZING!! It’s so real. I LOVE it!!! It can’t help but touch souls! Wait til my mum reads it! …God has big plans for you, Graham! He loves you SO much! I think the prayers of our Blessed Mother saved you!
Graham replied:
“Oh believe me. You know what clinched it?
I had a thought that said
“Think of the lengths your mother would go to for you, now imagine if you were Christ!” That was IT for me!! I’m so sorry it took so long.
Donna: Wow- that’s amazing! I want mum to put that in too! (i.e. onto our website)
And you know what, when I read it, I was equally amazed about the “flash of light” as the rest of the light story.
I had instant recognition that I’d heard of that somewhere before but couldn’t remember where…
Then as I was re-telling mum, I suddenly remembered! It’s when Our Lady appears to the children of Fatima! Same details. Her appearance was always preceded by a flash of light.
At the time we prayed, I knew Our Lord was present- I thought I could feel His Presence or sense it. When you told your mum that it was because Mary and Jesus were present, I thought “of course, Graham is right. They must have both been there: Mary is always beside her son!”
And I just remembered one more thing. A long time ago, I told the others that there would be another (bigger) miracle when our prayer group was complete. It wasn’t complete yet; there were more to come and Jesus was waiting so no-one would miss out.
Well this clearly means you are one of us! Because I think this was the Miracle and the sign Jesus desired to give us. Even if you can’t be with us in body, you will be in spirit. (Graham .lives about 3 hours drive away and won’t be able to attend our prayer group very often).
In reference to the book mentioned in the testimony, Graham wrote:
“Our Blessed mother said that this book was to be made available to ALL
by putting it on the tables at the back of the Church FREE OF CHARGE.
This hasn’t been done either
This book describes SO MUCH!!
In my eyes, ESSENTIAL reading for the whole world”
 

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Entering into Heaven WITH God is a VERY great treasure!

You do not understand. Without God NOBODY can enter into Heaven. When we accept Jesus AS our Lord and Savior we invite Jesus into us to live in us! We do have Jesus IN us!

You do know Jesus dwells in us just like the Holy Spirit?

Romans 8:9
[SUP]9 [/SUP] You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.

Jesus IS indwelling in US! How much greater can you receive then this!

Romans 8:11
[SUP]11 [/SUP] If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.

You must understand Blain that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit Indwells within us!

There IS nothing greater than this! And this is what we receive when we receive Salvation!

We do have the Heart of God the minute we accept Him as our Lord and Savior!

You only see one part of the greatest treasure. There are many parts of the greatest treasure. You were close to the Truth Blain.
I am not saying entering heaven with him is not a fantastic treasure but my point is he is the greatest treasure in all of heaven. Also no we do not have his heart when we are saved because if we did we would see through his eyes we would be just like Jesus in every way and in the deepest levels our ways would be his ways his thoughts would be our thoughts
 
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You still do not understand Blain.

Where in the Scriptures does God say when we receive the Indwelling of God the Son that we would be just like Jesus in every way? His ways our ways, His thoughts our thoughts?

How can OUR ways be His ways when we are sinners? How can OUR thoughts be His thoughts when we still have a sin nature?

God is perfect! What you advocate is that we become a God in that we know and do everything God does!

Like I said Blain you still do not understand and need to listen more to what God says in the Scriptures and less on what you think.
 

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You still do not understand Blain.

Where in the Scriptures does God say when we receive the Indwelling of God the Son that we would be just like Jesus in every way? His ways our ways, His thoughts our thoughts?

How can OUR ways be His ways when we are sinners? How can OUR thoughts be His thoughts when we still have a sin nature?

God is perfect! What you advocate is that we become a God in that we know and do everything God does!

Like I said Blain you still do not understand and need to listen more to what God says in the Scriptures and less on what you think.
No you misunderstand, you said when we are saved we then have his heart but if this were so then we would not be lacking in love and peace and wisdom and maturity we would see ppl as he does we would see life and the world and all of creation as he does, and I don't know about you but I sure didn't see like that when I was saved my heart was nothing like his I lacked much love and understanding I had no wisdom or maturity in him.

The scriptures say that his ways are not our ways and his thoughts are not our thoughts but it never said they couldn't be did it? After all aren't we all striving to follow his ways? to be like him? to imitate him? in this way very slowly and surely our ways begin to become his ways and out thoughts begin to become his thoughts
 
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When I was saved I felt love, but how PEOPLE who CLAIM to love Christ can JUDGE another who LOVES Crist is BEYOND me!!
Jesus told his Apostles when they came to him saying, "There is a man casting out demons in your name, and he is not one of us." Jesus told them "Leave him be, for someone who does this surely will not speak ill of me!" Mark 9: 38 39
 
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You still do not understand Blain.

Where in the Scriptures does God say when we receive the Indwelling of God the Son that we would be just like Jesus in every way? His ways our ways, His thoughts our thoughts?

How can OUR ways be His ways when we are sinners? How can OUR thoughts be His thoughts when we still have a sin nature?

God is perfect! What you advocate is that we become a God in that we know and do everything God does!

Like I said Blain you still do not understand and need to listen more to what God says in the Scriptures and less on what you think.
Blain is right. Listen to Jesus's words

My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.
John 17:20-23

The hurdles you are suggesting are very real, and we are very different, but Jesus brings a real sense of understanding and oneness.

You also use the word "sin nature." This is like the master joker card without defining what you mean.
If there was no possibility that Jesus could not change us there would be no faith. The question is how we walk in the Spirit and not get so focused on ourselves and the issues we miss out on what is really going on.

Sometimes I wonder how such single concepts can be so miss-understood, but then we are always keen on excuses rather than finding solutions.
 

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When I was saved I felt love, but how PEOPLE who CLAIM to love Christ can JUDGE another who LOVES Crist is BEYOND me!!
Jesus told his Apostles when they came to him saying, "There is a man casting out demons in your name, and he is not one of us." Jesus told them "Leave him be, for someone who does this surely will not speak ill of me!" Mark 9: 38 39
I'm sensing a bit of irritation here, have you had issues with judgmental Christians? If I am correct your in good company:)
 
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YES!!
Catholic was the ONLY Christian Religion for 1500 years!!
Till Martin Luther King posted his note on a ChurcH door, WHICH HE RECANTED ON HIS DEATHBED!!
 
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"No. Sorry. This is incorrect..."

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I'm HAPPY to entertain your theory!
But please put some proof to it!
For the first 1,500 years of Christianity there was no "Catholicism" as it is known it today, simply because there were no other forms of Christianity to distinguish it. There was only the "one, holy, catholic church" ("catholic" means "universal"), which was the body of Christian believers all over the western world, united by common traditions, beliefs, church structure and worship. Before the Reformation (in the 1500s), if you were a Christian, you belonged to the Catholic Church. Any other form of Christianity was considered a heresy, not a Christian denomination.
 
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YES!!
Catholic was the ONLY Christian Religion for 1500 years!!
Till Martin Luther King posted his note on a ChurcH door, WHICH HE RECANTED ON HIS DEATHBED!!
I think you need to read a bit more history. The Roman church is only one of many traditions, and even within RCC there have been different groups who emphasised different ideas or issues.

On top of this RCC has never been static, it has evolved with different Papel edicts, which has expanded on different ideas.
The reason why the Jesuits murdered so many, because the idea of a group have got it 100% correct, is always tempting, and then you are justified at murdering opposition within and without, which was done. But hey, this is all in the new testiment, disagree with an apostles and it was death for you?
 
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"No. Sorry. That is incorrect..."
In fact, it is the true Christians that the Holy Roman Empire tried to "snuff out of existance" during all of that time...
 
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The middle ages were VERY brutish. This DOESN'T change the fact that for 1500 years ALL Christians were UNIVERSALLY of the same faith, passed down by the Apostles. It NEVER changed till the 1500's. Even now the DEPARTED Christian denominations can't agree, so we have Protestants, Evangelicals, Baptist, Mormons and God knows how many MAN MADE religions UNSANCTIONED by CHRIST!!!
 
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Before the Reformation (in the 1500s), if you were a Christian, you belonged to the Catholic Church. Any other form of Christianity was considered a heresy, not a Christian denomination.
Only the Holy Roman Empire considered this to be true...

The real truth does not agree with this faulty assessment.
 
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