Then the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, or did He?
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what does the Bible teach about the sovereign power and authority of God?
and the Lord also says:
and
what do you think, was it really Nebudchanezzar that built great Babylon?
no?
then how could you think it's not the Lord who repays evil and brings justice?
who does justice belong to? vengeance and honor are both in His hand.
I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the LORD, do all these things.
(Isaiah 45:7)
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the LORD, do all these things.
(Isaiah 45:7)
and the Lord also says:
Have I not kept this in reserve
and sealed it in my vaults?
It is mine to avenge; I will repay.
In due time their foot will slip;
their day of disaster is near
and their doom rushes upon them.
(Deuteronomy 32:34-35)
and sealed it in my vaults?
It is mine to avenge; I will repay.
In due time their foot will slip;
their day of disaster is near
and their doom rushes upon them.
(Deuteronomy 32:34-35)
and
I said I would scatter them
and erase their name from human memory,
but I dreaded the taunt of the enemy,
lest the adversary misunderstand
and say, ‘Our hand has triumphed;
the Lord has not done all this.’
(Deuteronomy 32:26-27)
and erase their name from human memory,
but I dreaded the taunt of the enemy,
lest the adversary misunderstand
and say, ‘Our hand has triumphed;
the Lord has not done all this.’
(Deuteronomy 32:26-27)
what do you think, was it really Nebudchanezzar that built great Babylon?
no?
then how could you think it's not the Lord who repays evil and brings justice?
who does justice belong to? vengeance and honor are both in His hand.
".. we are about to destroy this place, because the outcry against its people has become great before the Lord, and the Lord has sent us to destroy it.”
So Lot went out and said to his sons-in-law, who were to marry his daughters,
“Up! Get out of this place, for the Lord is about to destroy the city.”
(Genesis 19:13)
So Lot went out and said to his sons-in-law, who were to marry his daughters,
“Up! Get out of this place, for the Lord is about to destroy the city.”
(Genesis 19:13)
Lot didn't get confused by details.
the Lord ordained the destruction of the cities: the Lord destroyed the cities.
if a man preached the gospel and you heard it and believed -- do you say that man saved your soul?
but God, who atoned for you, and sent that man to speak the word for you to hear; God is the one who saves.
Let's say that you turned in a drug dealer. Because you were a state witness the cartel has put a price on your head. So the Government gives you 24 hour protection.
After about 3 months you grow tired of not being able to move around freely and inform your FBI agent you are going into town, alone.
The agent begs you to reconsider, but you are hard-headed and go anyway. Guess what? The cartel murders you.
Question: What kill you?
Answer: The cartel.
Who allowed it?
Answer: The FBI agent. So he assumes the responsibility of your demise because he could have forced you to stay, but that would go against your free-will.
Why did the agent allow you to go? Free-will. He tried to talk you out of it...he lectured...he pleaded, but no you had to go.
So really who is to blame?
Answer: You! It was basically suicide. You chose to live your life without the agent and you died.
Glad you brought up the same-sex issue. Read Romans 1:26 "For this reason God gave them up (i.e., He abandoned them)...."
What is the reason? Romans 1:22....although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man...
Verse 26 For this reason God gave them up.....He abandoned them.
They reject their need of God and in turn God gave them up.....
What is the reason? Romans 1:22....although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man...
Verse 26 For this reason God gave them up.....He abandoned them.
They reject their need of God and in turn God gave them up.....
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I don't think that you are paying attention to the context. By the angel saying to Lot, after asking the angel to not destroy Zoar and the angel said, very well, just hurry because I can't do anything until you reach it, this demonstrates deliberate, controlled, action. I can't do anything shows that God is the One in control of the destruction and the timing of it.
So let me ask the question: By what manner are saying that Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities were destroyed?
So let me ask the question: By what manner are saying that Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities were destroyed?
That is not the same. That scripture in Romans states directly that God gave them over to those evil desires. However, that is not the case with the destruction of these cities. The context does not say that God abandoned them, but that he purposely destroyed them and how he destroyed them. To attempt to apply what is said here in Romans to the event of Sodom and Gomorrah, would be to read into the scripture what is not there. For there is nothing in the context that that says God abandoned them and that because God's protection was gone, some natural disaster destroyed them.
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Here's another:
“Does Job fear God for nothing?” Satan replied. 10“Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.”
Notice Satan realizes God is sovereign and without His permission Satan can't touch Job.
Look who gets the blame:
Job 1:16 While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said, “The fire of God fell from the heavens and burned up the sheep and the servants, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!”
Who did it?
Answer: Satan.
Why? God partially abandoned Job. IF God had fully abandoned Job he would have died.....
The point is God didn't do those terrible things to Job, Satan did....God allowed it because Job had a problem and that problem, left uncorrected, would have led to unbelief.
You have to take all the Bible states on a subject, not just isolated texts....
Hosea 11:8 "How can I give you up, Ephraim? How can I hand you over, Israel? How can I make you like Admah? How can I set you like Zeboiim? My heart churns within Me; My sympathy is stirred. (NKJV)
Keep in mind 4 cities were destroyed that day: Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, & Zeboiim.
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