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Question for postrib
If the church fathers are infallible and they trump Gods word, do you guys also adhere to infant baptism,transubstantiation,and purgatory beliefs also?
If not,then are you heretics?
Remember,you guys have them as infallible.
You guys can barely make a sentence W/O that very concept.
If the church fathers are infallible and they trump Gods word, do you guys also adhere to infant baptism,transubstantiation,and purgatory beliefs also?
If not,then are you heretics?
Remember,you guys have them as infallible.
You guys can barely make a sentence W/O that very concept.
Question for postribs,
If thief in your world translates "secret" then how would rev 19 be either one?
Do you have an example that exists someplace proving a normal person would see an invading army descending from the sky on horses with a general leading them with lightning proceeding from his mouth and his enemies being slaughtered....then someone says "that God on that lead horse reminds me of a thief".
Do you guys not see the quandary of your poorly thought out doctrine?
If thief in your world translates "secret" then how would rev 19 be either one?
Do you have an example that exists someplace proving a normal person would see an invading army descending from the sky on horses with a general leading them with lightning proceeding from his mouth and his enemies being slaughtered....then someone says "that God on that lead horse reminds me of a thief".
Do you guys not see the quandary of your poorly thought out doctrine?
ABSOLUTELY WRONG!! SORRY. The GREAT CITY, BABYLON is all about ISLAM and worship of a False God. Israel recognizes the correct God although most do not recognize His Son as of yet, but they will. If you look at all the clues given here's why it cannot be Jerusalem/Judaism:
1.Among smallest Religion <.5%
2.Not part of a 7 kingdom succession
3.Few peoples/nations worship her
4.Not Similar to former Babylon
5.Not Located in a Wilderness/Desert
6.John did not recognize her
7.No Kings of Earth Fornicate with her
8.Doesn’t Behead People
9.Not Near a busy seaport
10.Few get rich from selling her “goods”
11.Merchants would rejoice at demise
12.Can’t be destroyed as Christ returns
to Jerusalem and reigns from there
1.Among smallest Religion <.5%
2.Not part of a 7 kingdom succession
3.Few peoples/nations worship her
4.Not Similar to former Babylon
5.Not Located in a Wilderness/Desert
6.John did not recognize her
7.No Kings of Earth Fornicate with her
8.Doesn’t Behead People
9.Not Near a busy seaport
10.Few get rich from selling her “goods”
11.Merchants would rejoice at demise
12.Can’t be destroyed as Christ returns
to Jerusalem and reigns from there
2. 7th beast king will take Jerusalem, using peace (Daniel)
3. All world (except Christ's elect) will worship the beast king, Rev.13.
4. Is spiritually Sodom and Egypt, and thus symbolic spiritually of Babylon, its center in Jerusalem, Rev.11:8
5. Fleeing to the wilderness is an expression for something else
6. Because main event was for end, not John's days
7. All the kings (ten kings) will be in bed with her, concurrently; Rev.17.
8. Main controller of the beheadings of Christians in that future time.
9. Symbolic of mercantile traffic, world commerce, will control with 'mark' for buying and selling.
10. Merchants of earth waxed rich because of her, Rev.18.
11. Kings who lived deliciously with her, bewail her destruction, her merchants weep, Rev.18.
12. 'not one stone standing on top of another' in that area when Jesus returns; Matt.24; Mark 13. New Jerusalem comes down out of Heaven from God.
Question for post trib
How does the bride become the wife in rev 19,receive white robes,mount horses,return to earth,.....and gather what? Clones?
Iow,how are they in heaven,mounting horses when you guys say they can't mount them till they are visible in earths atmosphere?
Another quandary?
How does the bride become the wife in rev 19,receive white robes,mount horses,return to earth,.....and gather what? Clones?
Iow,how are they in heaven,mounting horses when you guys say they can't mount them till they are visible in earths atmosphere?
Another quandary?
Flawed pat answer.
You guys now have a thief destroying a thousand square miles of humanoids,taking nothing,
And Jesus saying "see,that is what all thiefs do"
And the survivors describing the slaughter as a thief in the night
Not even remotely plausible.
Oh wow could he have actually been referring to the Taking of his bride pretrib?
You; "no,I'll figure something else out"...."there's gotta be a way to make an invading army that takes nothing appear to be a thief"
BTW,Your analogy that a thief always alerts those Asleep,makes Jesus look stupid.
Play it out. Just one time...play it out.
You guys now have a thief destroying a thousand square miles of humanoids,taking nothing,
And Jesus saying "see,that is what all thiefs do"
And the survivors describing the slaughter as a thief in the night
Not even remotely plausible.
Oh wow could he have actually been referring to the Taking of his bride pretrib?
You; "no,I'll figure something else out"...."there's gotta be a way to make an invading army that takes nothing appear to be a thief"
BTW,Your analogy that a thief always alerts those Asleep,makes Jesus look stupid.
Play it out. Just one time...play it out.
Question for postrib
How do the non existent saints get taken up alive at the end of the GT,when it says "all refusing the mark are beheaded"
Hmmmm, cue hyper creative,mode.
And no,Jesus is not confused between local and worldwide regions.
How do the non existent saints get taken up alive at the end of the GT,when it says "all refusing the mark are beheaded"
Hmmmm, cue hyper creative,mode.
And no,Jesus is not confused between local and worldwide regions.
Question for postrib
If the church fathers are infallible and they trump Gods word, do you guys also adhere to infant baptism,transubstantiation,and purgatory beliefs also?
If not,then are you heretics?
Remember,you guys have them as infallible.
You guys can barely make a sentence W/O that very concept.
If the church fathers are infallible and they trump Gods word, do you guys also adhere to infant baptism,transubstantiation,and purgatory beliefs also?
If not,then are you heretics?
Remember,you guys have them as infallible.
You guys can barely make a sentence W/O that very concept.
I have tried to figure out why Jesus missed it so bad when he compared his army to a thief.
Question for postrib
Where in Jesus' example of Noah and lot,concerning His second coming,do you see a post judgment catching away /deliverance?
Where in Jesus' example of Noah and lot,concerning His second coming,do you see a post judgment catching away /deliverance?