The power of Life is in God's Word, which is Truth

[InSpiritInTruth]

God the Father gave the power of Life to His Word. John 5:26 “For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;” Just as God’s Word is the Way, the Truth, and the Life= the Word of Life by which the Father also created all things.

Those who believe and abide in the Truth according to the words of God, also abide in the Life of the true Vine Jesus Christ. Jesus also said in John 8:31-32 “Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;[SUP]32 [/SUP]And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
Just as it is the Word of Truth, or the Son who is the one who makes us free..John 8:36 “If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.”

But the Devil also understands this, so in all his cunning and craftiness the Devil by His spirit of a lie called “it” would try to cast the truth to ground, and did so as was prophesied in Daniel 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.” So the lies would prosper in this world over time and deceive many as is also written, even many of the saints would be overcome by all the false doctrines and lies.

This spirit of a lie can also take the Life that is in the words of God out by adding to, or taking away from the truth in them just enough to turn the message of the gospel of Truth into a lie. This is shown as changing the truth of God into a lie as in Romans 1:25. Just as some would hold back the Truth in unrighteousnessRomans 1:18

We were also warned of many deceivers coming into the world proclaiming to be of Christ. As we were also warned of another gospel being preached by perverting the truth in the true gospel. Galatians 1:6-7 [SUP] “[/SUP]I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:[SUP]7 [/SUP]Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.”

This perverting of the gospel is sometimes very subtle, and is at times very hard to recognize at first. And for those who do not truly seek out the Truth by faith, these being unlearned can also be easily carried away by this strange doctrine that is pleasing to the ear, and also to the desires of the flesh.

But those who are the elect of God, and those who truly know the Truth, shall be able to spot these little variations in the rewording and twisted interpretation of the text. These little variations are done in order to change the true meaning of what God was actually saying into a false doctrine that is pleasing to the masses.

Sometimes just by adding a word here, or taking away a word there they can change the meaning of a verse. Or often times these deceivers will try to suggest the wording is wrong, or this or that is not in the original text, or your Bible has a bad translation, thus trying to redefine the wording in the text and try to change its meaning entirely.

Then of course there is interpretation. But that is where the Holy Spirit comes in, because He gives us the mind of Christ so that we do not need to listen to other carnally minded men’s so called knowledge, or their so called “proper exegesis” or pompous Hermeneutics. LOL

Be on guard people, and ask the Lord by faith to show you the Truth, because many deceivers have gone out into world. Peace and God bless

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

What is interesting in scripture we not only see the truth being cast to the ground and to the street, but also those who were once the salt of the earth being trampled under foot of men, like the "holy city" being trampled under foot. I believe there is a connection in all this, as the world casts the Truth to the ground and some have trodden under foot the Son of God.

Isaiah 59:14 And judgment is turned away backward, and justice standeth afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.
Matthew 7:6 “Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.”

Hebrews 10:28-29 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:[SUP]29 [/SUP]Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

 

[kathryn]

God the Father gave the power of Life to His Word. John 5:26 “For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;” Just as God’s Word is the Way, the Truth, and the Life= the Word of Life by which the Father also created all things.

Those who believe and abide in the Truth according to the words of God, also abide in the Life of the true Vine Jesus Christ. Jesus also said in John 8:31-32 “Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;[SUP]32 [/SUP]And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
Just as it is the Word of Truth, or the Son who is the one who makes us free..John 8:36 “If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.”

But the Devil also understands this, so in all his cunning and craftiness the Devil by His spirit of a lie called “it” would try to cast the truth to ground, and did so as was prophesied in Daniel 8:12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.” So the lies would prosper in this world over time and deceive many as is also written, even many of the saints would be overcome by all the false doctrines and lies.

This spirit of a lie can also take the Life that is in the words of God out by adding to, or taking away from the truth in them just enough to turn the message of the gospel of Truth into a lie. This is shown as changing the truth of God into a lie as in Romans 1:25. Just as some would hold back the Truth in unrighteousnessRomans 1:18

We were also warned of many deceivers coming into the world proclaiming to be of Christ. As we were also warned of another gospel being preached by perverting the truth in the true gospel. Galatians 1:6-7 [SUP] “[/SUP]I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:[SUP]7 [/SUP]Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.”

This perverting of the gospel is sometimes very subtle, and is at times very hard to recognize at first. And for those who do not truly seek out the Truth by faith, these being unlearned can also be easily carried away by this strange doctrine that is pleasing to the ear, and also to the desires of the flesh.

But those who are the elect of God, and those who truly know the Truth, shall be able to spot these little variations in the rewording and twisted interpretation of the text. These little variations are done in order to change the true meaning of what God was actually saying into a false doctrine that is pleasing to the masses.

Sometimes just by adding a word here, or taking away a word there they can change the meaning of a verse. Or often times these deceivers will try to suggest the wording is wrong, or this or that is not in the original text, or your Bible has a bad translation, thus trying to redefine the wording in the text and try to change its meaning entirely.

Then of course there is interpretation. But that is where the Holy Spirit comes in, because He gives us the mind of Christ so that we do not need to listen to other carnally minded men’s so called knowledge, or their so called “proper exegesis” or pompous Hermeneutics. LOL

Be on guard people, and ask the Lord by faith to show you the Truth, because many deceivers have gone out into world. Peace and God bless

The first person I ever chatted to on an internet website told me the verses of scripture I quoted that he didn't want to accept as written were not the original manuscript. He also told me my verses needed to be read in context.
But when he quoted scripture there was no mention of these things, I was just expected to accept the verses as the final authority on the matter.
It was an eye opener for sure.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

The first person I ever chatted to on an internet website told me the verses of scripture I quoted that he didn't want to accept as written were not the original manuscript. He also told me my verses needed to be read in context.
But when he quoted scripture there was no mention of these things, I was just expected to accept the verses as the final authority on the matter.
It was an eye opener for sure.

Your eyelids will get wider apart here, as I'm sure you've probably noticed.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

The first person I ever chatted to on an internet website told me the verses of scripture I quoted that he didn't want to accept as written were not the original manuscript. He also told me my verses needed to be read in context.
But when he quoted scripture there was no mention of these things, I was just expected to accept the verses as the final authority on the matter.
It was an eye opener for sure.

Yeah, that always throws a red flag for me as well, because a lot of times they are trying to change the intended meaning and interpretation, as it was determined by God. But these little subtle variations are also found in new translations of the scriptures.

For instance, I know by the Holy Spirit that the mark of the beast is a spiritual inward mark having to do with the heart and mind of man, and the spirit that in mankind and in the world. Just as God's seal, or "mark" has to do with the same, those being sealed by the Holy Spirit in their foreheads, or minds.

But the natural man (carnally minded man) is unable to understand this, or receive this as the Truth. And in doing so they will also make ever so slight changes to scripture to conform to his own carnal way of thinking, which is judging outwardly by appearances. I have always read the KJV of the Bible since my youth, but I see new translations make changes to wording, even a single word like "on" verses "in" can change the meaning intended.

For instance the KJV uses the word "in" Revelation 13:16 "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Now compare to the NIV which uses the word "on" Revelation 13:16New International Version (NIV)[SUP]16 [/SUP]It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,"

So even slight variations in wording can cause one to lean to an outward mark, not an inward mark.

 

[Grace777x70]

I certainly understand how different translations use different words in some scriptures. That's why we are to search the scriptures daily to see whether what is being said to us is true or not. Just saying "its the word of God"..is not enough..as that statement can mean ..you have to accept the way I view that scripture....or you are going against the word of God. Which we all know that isn't necessarily true just because someone says that.

I have never thought about your view of "the mark"..I find it interesting... as I have no clue what the mark is supposed to be.

I did however look at the words "on" and "in"..and they are definitely different words in greek....and I have a question about it....how do we think of "in" when the scripture say "on"? I'm just asking as I said..I have NO clue what the mark is...I like your way of viewing things differently then taught by traditions..etc.

"In" =

1706. en

In, on, at, within, among, with, by, by means of.

Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary, The - The Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary – Delta-Epsilon.


This is the word that is used in greek in Revelation 13:16

1894. [FONT="Galatia Sil" !important]ἐπί[/FONT] [FONT="Gentium" !important]epi[/FONT] prep On, upon, at, by, before, over, against, across.
Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary, The - The Complete Biblical Library Greek-English Dictionary – Delta-Epsilon.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

A lot of Christians being yet carnal believe my views are strange, but I believe it is not my own view, but that which Lord has shown to me by His Spirit. Most people go with what they have heard from other men in church, or in books, or on the internet etc. But I tell people I have not been taught by men, neither do I hold to any certain denominations doctrines or interpretations by other men teachers as most do. And this is why they think "my view" strange.

Jesus said he did not receive the testimony of men, and neither should we. We should seek understanding in God's words from God Himself. God is the one who gave the words, He is also the one who knows the proper interpretation of what He meant to say in them. But many make the fatal mistake of putting their trust in the carnally minded men teachers, and not seeking the wisdom and understanding that is only given by God by way of His Living Word and Spirit.


Look at what Paul said for example in Galatians 1 "Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead)..........

Paul goes on to say...[SUP]11 [/SUP]But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.[SUP]12 [/SUP]For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ."

We know Paul had read the scriptures prior to being born again, and I'm sure he had listened to other men teachers prior to this as well. But Paul did not truly understand the many mysteries in the Word until God revealed His Son in him. This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, the Living Word of God revealing Himself to us by way of God's Holy Spirit.

And this also I confess, that is why I proclaim I also was not taught by men, neither did I receive it of men.

 

[Grace777x70]

So, basically then people should believe what is said to them despite what is written..... I know the Holy Spirit will reveal Jesus to us....that is His job and we trust Him to do just that.

We have a great salvation in our Lord Jesus Christ!!!

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

So, basically then people should believe what is said to them despite what is written.....

I don't know how you came to that conclusion from what I said? But no, we should believe the written words of God, just as we should believe every word that comes out of the mouth of God. But the Holy Spirit gives us understanding in God's words, and the Holy Spirit agrees with God's words that are written.


God the Father gives us His 2 witnesses to confirm the Truth, these 2 witnesses are God's Word and Spirit.

 

[Willie-T]

Yeah, that always throws a red flag for me as well, because a lot of times they are trying to change the intended meaning and interpretation, as it was determined by God. But these little subtle variations are also found in new translations of the scriptures.

For instance, I know by the Holy Spirit that the mark of the beast is a spiritual inward mark having to do with the heart and mind of man, and the spirit that in mankind and in the world. Just as God's seal, or "mark" has to do with the same, those being sealed by the Holy Spirit in their foreheads, or minds.

But the natural man (carnally minded man) is unable to understand this, or receive this as the Truth. And in doing so they will also make ever so slight changes to scripture to conform to his own carnal way of thinking, which is judging outwardly by appearances. I have always read the KJV of the Bible since my youth, but I see new translations make changes to wording, even a single word like "on" verses "in" can change the meaning intended.

For instance the KJV uses the word "in" Revelation 13:16 "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Now compare to the NIV which uses the word "on" Revelation 13:16New International Version (NIV)[SUP]16 [/SUP]It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads,"

So even slight variations in wording can cause one to lean to an outward mark, not an inward mark.

And..................................... Do either mean a true "mark" (as with ink, or something) or an impression.... or a belief.... or a "result " or "consequence" of our involvement with a certain way of living?

Or does it mean the right to engage in open commerce, as some historians tell us was enacted by some Roman Dictators?

 

[Grace777x70]

Ok....I was referring to what you said about the "mark"...you said that the KJV has "in" and the NIV has "on" which changed the meaning of the verse in Rev 13:16...but obviously the word there written is "on". The translations had different words and thus changed how one could view that particular scripture.

It is always good to check and see what is actually written. I do not that the greek language is very descriptive and words can have multiple meanings. What translators use in translating it depends on their view sometimes.

I thought you were saying you had special revelation about that scripture despite what the scripture said in greek....perhaps you were just talking about things in general as you said not many Christians get your revelations.

Anyway....so, the mark could be an internal sign?..a matter of the heart and not something physical?

Amen!..the Word and the Spirit agree. We have a good, loving Father!

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Ok....I was referring to what you said about the "mark"...you said that the KJV has "in" and the NIV has "on" which changed the meaning of the verse in Rev 13:16...but obviously the word there written is "on". The translations had different words and thus changed how one could view that particular scripture.

It is always good to check and see what is actually written. I do not that the greek language is very descriptive and words can have multiple meanings. What translators use in translating it depends on their view sometimes.

I thought you were saying you had special revelation about that scripture despite what the scripture said in greek....perhaps you were just talking about things in general as you said not many Christians get your revelations.

Anyway....so, the mark could be an internal sign?..a matter of the heart and not something physical?

Amen!..the Word and the Spirit agree. We have a good, loving Father!

Yeah it could be read either way as "in" or "on" as the KJV shows The KJV translates Strongs G1909 in the following manner: on (196x), in (120x),

But most people being carnally minded would think the mark is outward, literally upon their skin. But, by the Holy Spirit I know the mark is actually an inward mark, just as God's mark or seal is the Holy Spirit.

That is the great divide between the mind of the flesh, and the mind of the Spirit. These 2 minds and views will not agree because the knowledge of the world, and the spirit of the world, being carnally minded, or of the flesh, strives against the mind of the Spirit. So you can have the same verse shown to 2 different people, one with the mind of the flesh, and the other with the mind of Christ, and they will not agree. Just as those who are of the world cannot receive the Spirit of Truth, because of the spirit of a lie, or "it" is in them.

And so if a new translation is put together by those who are of the flesh, then their translation will tend to lean toward an outward mark, not the inward.

And yes the mark has to with the heart and mind, and the nature of the man.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

And..................................... Do either mean a true "mark" (as with ink, or something) or an impression.... or a belief.... or a "result " or "consequence" of our involvement with a certain way of living?

Or does it mean the right to engage in open commerce, as some historians tell us was enacted by some Roman Dictators?

Many believe the buying and selling has to with physical things like food and clothing, but the scriptures does not say what it is they are buying and selling. But by the Holy Spirit we are told to compare spiritual things with spiritual. I don't want to get too side tracked on this thread, but the buying and selling aspect has to with being sold under sin,(as sin is the red mark) just as we are then also purchased for a price. We are warned not to sell out our birth right to fill our own bellies as did Esau. This all has to with keeping what God has given you, and not selling out your faith and soul for sin and greedy gain.

Proverbs 23:23
Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.


This is that gold Jesus said to buy of Him.

 

[Grace777x70]

Ok..I get what you are saying.....there is one problem though..... except the breakdown ONLY occurs in the Kings James Version which uses "in" 102x ....for the greek word ἐπί

Other translations do not even once use "in" for the word ἐπί. Greek has it's own word for "in" which is "en"

So, one would only have to go with what the KJV says in order to get "in" being used in that verse. This is why it is so important to look at other translations and now everyone has access to the original meanings for greek words to check and see what was word was used.


Don't get me wrong...you may be right as far as the mark being inside a person as I have said I know nothing about the mark. I thought that it had something to do with buying and selling too?

It's just that in all honestly one cannot use Rev 13:16 as a source for that belief as clearly the word properly translated means "on".

Are there other verses that someone can go to view about this mark being "inward". ...as I say..I never gave it much thought about the mark.......and just believed what I was taught by my religious upbringing..which may or may not be accurate....but I am open to have the knife put to the throat of my one of my "sacred cows" if scripture can back it up!.....

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Yeah it could be read either way as "in" or "on" as the KJV shows The KJV translates Strongs G1909 in the following manner: on (196x), in (120x),

But most people being carnally minded would think the mark is outward, literally upon their skin. But, by the Holy Spirit I know the mark is actually an inward mark, just as God's mark or seal is the Holy Spirit.

That is the great divide between the mind of the flesh, and the mind of the Spirit. These 2 minds and views will not agree because the knowledge of the world, and the spirit of the world, being carnally minded, or of the flesh, strives against the mind of the Spirit. So you can have the same verse shown to 2 different people, one with the mind of the flesh, and the other with the mind of Christ, and they will not agree. Just as those who are of the world cannot receive the Spirit of Truth, because of the spirit of a lie, or "it" is in them.

And so if a new translation is put together by those who are of the flesh, then their translation will tend to lean toward an outward mark, not the inward.

And yes the mark has to with the heart and mind, and the nature of the man.

 

[Grace777x70]

I checked on the New King James and they translated the word correctly in the new version...

Revelation 13:16-18New King James Version (NKJV)[SUP]16 [/SUP]He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,

I personally feel that the original KJV translated 400 years ago is in some things not a good translation for today...but I do like the poetry of it.....

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

I checked on the New King James and they translated the word correctly in the new version...

Revelation 13:16-18New King James Version (NKJV)[SUP]16 [/SUP]He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,

I personally feel that the original KJV translated 400 years ago is in some things not a good translation for today...but I do like the poetry of it.....

Yeah, the new and improved version has it right. NOT! lol The best way to prove the mark is inward is to look at God's mark, or seal of the Holy Spirit. You will find the wording of both God's mark and the beasts mark are similar in description.

OK here is some verses showing the symbolism of God's mark, or seal.....

Ezekiel 9:4And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof."

Revelation 7:3
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Revelation 9:4
And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

Revelation 14:1
And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

And then what the seal, or mark of God really is, which is the Holy Spirit.....

2 Corinthians 1:22
Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

Ephesians 1:13
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

So understanding God's mark, or seal is inward and spiritual, then just think opposite of that and you will see what spirit they who are of their father the Devil are marked with inwardly.

 

[Grace777x70]

Ok...so it doesn't matter what the "real word" is in the original language..(Its only "real" if it's in the KJV..even though the translators of the New King James translated it properly.... is just too hard to swallow...which again..we need to be searching the scriptures to see whether those things being taught t us are true or not..like the Bereans.

Revelation 7:3 = uses the word "epi" which is "on or upon" ( despite what the 400 year old translation says )

Revelation 9;4 = uses the word "epi" which is "on or upon" ( despite what the 400 year old translation says )

Revelation 14:1 = uses the word "epi" which is "on or upon" ( despite what the 400 year old translation says )

2 Corinthians 1:22 = this verse uses the correct translation = "en" which is "in" in greek

All the Holy Spirit verses about us being sealed by Him are not referring to the mark of the beast ...so all the revelation verses are out of play for this theory because they all say in the original language "on" instead of "in" when talking about this "mark" in their hands and head.

It would seem that those that take the mark have within themselves have chosen to follow the beast and not God so this could be taken as "having a mark" inside of them...that would work as a theory...

Real Christians will not have to be worrying about this "marK" thing. We are sealed with the Holy Spirit! Praise God!




mark, or seal.....

Ezekiel 9:4And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof."

Revelation 7:3
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Revelation 9:4
And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

Revelation 14:1
And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

And then what the seal, or mark of God really is, which is the Holy Spirit.....

2 Corinthians 1:22
Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

Ephesians 1:13
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

So understanding God's mark, or seal is inward and spiritual, then just think opposite of that and you will see what spirit they who are of their father the Devil are marked with inwardly.[/QUOTE]

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

Like I said the KJV has all these to describe both God's mark, or seal, and the beasts mark. The KJV translates Strongs G1909 in the following manner: on (196x), in (120x), upon (159x),

But now knowing the truth about God's seal being in us by way of the Holy Spirit. Then we also now know the proper translation should read "in" not "on". Ye old KJV has it right.

 

[Grace777x70]

BUT the reality is ye old KJV had it wrong!...and even THEY changed it to translate what the real word means in the NKJV...they are still wrong?? The 120x times that ye Old KJV translated the word is irrelevant as they are the only ones doing it. That's like playing a game amongst themselves and calling it the World Series!

So, it doesn't make any difference that the translators of the NEW KJV discovered a mistake in translation of the greek word "epi" done originally by the KJV of 1611...and then rectified it...it is still wrong because you say it is..?

That's not sound thinking.

But this is an example of doing things backwards.....now let's say Rev 13:16 and all the others in Revelation translated the word as being "on" their forehead and hands...then you look at the original word used and it really means "in" and not "on" and you discovered it should have been translated "in" their hands..etc. Then that would be a great find!

This is not a sound way of interpreting scripture at all. This is totally backwards and no one would agree that is a sound way of translating scripture. Words do have real meanings...sometimes our words in English can mean different things but that's when you go to the original greek word to see what is being said.

If you use this method to get revelations from the word.....I can see why not many Christians would understand where you get them from. It's not sound...... I'm sure your other revelations have a solid scriptural background to them?

...but if that's the way you interpret scripture.....then have at it!...I'll be double-checking things and acting like a Berean when I read your posts.

Like I said the KJV has all these to describe both God's mark, or seal, and the beasts mark. The KJV translates Strongs G1909 in the following manner: on (196x), in (120x), upon (159x),

But now knowing the truth about God's seal being in us by way of the Holy Spirit. Then we also now know the proper translation should read "in" not "on". Ye old KJV has it right.

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

The interpretation belongs to God. I did not interpret the meaning of the mark and seal based on the single word "in" or "on" or "upon" that's your straw man argument. I showed you by comparing spiritual things with spiritual that the seal of God is in fact "in" our forehead. (in the heart and mind)

The KJV version in fact uses the word "in" the forehead describing both the mark of the beast and God's seal. So you are rejecting not only what is written in the KJV but also the proper interpretation which is revealed by looking at the multiple verses and confirming it by the Holy Spirit. (which you lack)

The reason you reject the interpretation is because you cannot receive it. Here is why.......

1 Corinthians 2:13-14
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.