still think 9 11 was a conspiracy?
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Mitspa
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No because that beam was probably covered under tons of rubble ..and I can show the guys cutting those beams exactly like that picture... so your trying to prove some conspiracy and have no real proof
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KennethC
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They were not lying Mitspa which is why they were silenced, they would not have been silenced if they were lying.
They would have just played them off like they do all these other conspiracy theorists, plus they were eyewitnesses, some of which were in the buildings.
Like I said twice now go watch, "911: In Plane Site."
The man who did this program is not a conspiracy theorist and he set out to disprove them, so go watch it then come back to me and see what you think.
For he did not use what people said on youtube video's !!!
He used actually video's, photo's, books, magazines, reports, and other resources including news reports from 911 and shortly after to do his research. He actually dug deep into this issue !!!
The video produces a lot of false info. here's a list of other buildings (some burned more than twice as long, others burned for days) that burned without failing. Other Fires in Steel-Structure Buildings Check out the one in Madrid, Spain. While there could have been a potential for collapse at WTC 7 there's no explanation as to why it would COMPLETELY fall into its OWN FOOTPRINT.
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Mitspa
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I think it went from a attempt to rescue to clean-up at some point ..are you suggesting some kind of cover-up? Because I want some evidence
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Mitspa
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So your issue is that it fell down after burning for 7 hours ..you did see the part where part of it fell 8 seconds before the rest of it? And you think the group that investigated this building falling was in on the conspiracy? I have to say the things in this video seem more than reasonable to me ..and I for sure don't see any proof of a conspiracy
In order something to go down at one time into it's own footprint, things have to happen simultaneously in a controlled manner. It could very well have collapsed. But there's no way that it could have fully collapsed into its own footprint. The one part falling first doesn't negate this fact.
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Mitspa
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KennethC
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There you go again pushing a video of cleanup that was done days later, the only cleanup that was done within the first 24 hours was the surrounding streets and outskirts of the area.
The main central area where the searches were being done a cleanup plan for that area was not even put forward and approved of tell September 22.
“Controlled Demolition Inc. (CDI) has developed a plan that may be used to clean up the World Trade Center (WTC) disaster. The plan, delivered on Sept. 22 to the city’s Department of Design and Construction, outlines a site-wide master plan.”
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Mitspa
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Is this your opinion ..because the engineers say this building fell as you would expect under these circumstances ... I don't get why that proves anything ?
If he don't get it by tomorrow I want a crack at this challenge. Both are pretty easy points to slice through in my opinion.
Theres really no sense in presenting factual evidence to those who dont want to see it. This thread has turned into a childish display
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Mitspa
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Yea ..the guys cutting those beams just like your picture ..show a picture of that beam..before any rescue or cleanup started ?
and was it just the one beam...or do you have evidence of more beams being cut like you say?
That failure is the consequence to an uncontrolled fire in a steel building, and that WTC 7 is the only steel building to burn uncontrolled in history for 7 hours.
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Mitspa
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I think building 7 has been debunked by the one video ... not sure how anyone could challenge the info there?
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KennethC
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Yes the cleanup did start immediately with the surrounding streets and outer edges, but the main area cleanup did not actually start for 11 days.
They gave time for search parties to look over the area before the main section was allowed cleanup crews in, it was a short amount of time as I have seen them take 3 weeks searching woods for a girl who disappeared.
The quick cleanup and taking it to a private location was weird, yet supposedly thousands of investigators got their hands on the debris. Yeah right !!!
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Mitspa
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So you have another building ? and the fact that it was burning for 7 hours seems pretty clear? But beyond his statements about that ..you don't argue with the physics presented in the video?
