When one is baptized in the Holy Ghost do they have to talk in tongues? I have been told that the evidence of speaking in tongues is the baptism of the Holy Ghost. I thought that when someone is baptized in the Holy Ghost they can speak in tongues as evidence or they may receive one of the other gifts of the spirit? Could someone who knows their Bible well please explain this to me?
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Many people don't speak in tongues right away. Other gifts are being poured in, but every Spirit-filled person has the ability to speak in tongues, by the active submission of one's vocal cords to Him, just as every Spirit-filled Christian did upon their being baptized in the Holy Spirit in the bible.
Speaking in tongues isn't the only evidence of the baptism in the Holy Spirit, but it is the most readily observable evidence.
Speaking in tongues isn't the only evidence of the baptism in the Holy Spirit, but it is the most readily observable evidence.
The truth is that every believer has the indwelling Holy Spirit, but not every believer submits to or is taught about the baptism of the Holy Spirit. As for the speaking in tongues, it is prayer, mostly and that is done as it always has been done by the power of the Holy Spirit since Pentecost. I am not denying the obvious abuses that do go on.
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since this is the family forum, I'll talk about my experiences with tongues, and how it affected my family.
I've spent time in many different flavors of pentecostal churches over the years.
I'm generally in favor of greater use of charasmatic gifts among believers today.
I can't think of a single instance, in my experience, where the body of Christ was built up by a person speaking with tongues.
compare with, say, being with a hurting person, taking their hand, and praying with them... many edifying experineces I've seen...
finally, about my family growing up... I, my mother and her mother all spoke with tongues... my father was brought up in a holiness movement, but non-tongues using church, and he didn't. I sensed an on-going air of superiority with us tongue-speakers... like maybe someday my dad would be able to do this, too... and experience God's fullness.
I've spent time in many different flavors of pentecostal churches over the years.
I'm generally in favor of greater use of charasmatic gifts among believers today.
I can't think of a single instance, in my experience, where the body of Christ was built up by a person speaking with tongues.
compare with, say, being with a hurting person, taking their hand, and praying with them... many edifying experineces I've seen...
finally, about my family growing up... I, my mother and her mother all spoke with tongues... my father was brought up in a holiness movement, but non-tongues using church, and he didn't. I sensed an on-going air of superiority with us tongue-speakers... like maybe someday my dad would be able to do this, too... and experience God's fullness.
Its actually called utterance isnt it? Not everyone receives this gift. There are other gifts as well. But together we are the body of Christ.
I do believe there are those who have it. I also have witnessed another version of tongues out of order in the pentecostal steeple therefore they were operating from another spirit. have seen some crazy stuff.
1 Corinth 14: 26What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret; 28but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God.…
I do believe there are those who have it. I also have witnessed another version of tongues out of order in the pentecostal steeple therefore they were operating from another spirit. have seen some crazy stuff.
1 Corinth 14: 26What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret; 28but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God.…
my tongue-speaking experiences were long before learning to chant psalms... that was just an example. so, I already had "the gift."
was I doing it right? I certainly thought so... and the pentecostal people around me seemed to think so, too...
again, if it's edifying to you, by all means go ahead.
in my experience, it's usually not helpful for a new believer to be concerned with it.
was I doing it right? I certainly thought so... and the pentecostal people around me seemed to think so, too...
again, if it's edifying to you, by all means go ahead.
in my experience, it's usually not helpful for a new believer to be concerned with it.
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I personally believe that the Baptism of the Holy Spirit differs from the gift of tongues, which is received by faith, and can best be described as a prayer language, I suppose. The pattern in the New Testament always shows the evidence of speaking in tongues as the Spirit gives utterance. I suppose it could be called an ecstatic utterance. This was the position of Smith Wigglesworth. I never had that ecstatic utterance happen. My pastor has asked me if I speak in tongues, the answer is yes. He said that I probably have received the baptism. Sometimes tongues come out of me unprompted. They issue out of me sometimes. My wife the other day asked, "What." I responded, "Oh, my mouth just spoke on its own. A bit of tongues, I guess." On writing this, I'm becoming more convinced that maybe I have received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Lol.
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I used to believe there was a difference in having the Holy Spirit and being baptized in the Holy Spirit however I do not believe that anymore. The epistles exhort us to be filled with the spirit rather than baptized. I've learned that the book of Acts isn't mean to be a doctrinal book and this is the error of pentecostals (no offense intended) I'm a lot like you are regarding the gift of tongues, it just wells up inside me and spills out but it's a spiritual gift no different than the gift of mercy, exhortation, and so on.
When a child of GOD is fully submerged, slain, or in the Holy Spirit, they do not necessarily have to speak in an unknown tongue at all, or they just may. God deals with the individual. A former pentacostal pastor of mine was determined that I should speak in tongues, so he called me forward and layed hands on me and prayed. I was willing and open for GOD to move upon me in any form that HE wanted. I cried, I prayed and repented, I got real joy in my bones, I danced, I totally surrendered the moment to the Holy Spirit and he moved upon me in a soft voice, while my knees got weak and I layed out on the altar's carpet, but I did not jump and holler and shout in tongues at that time. It was simply a matter of God showing me and the pastor that we can't force this upon someone...it it totally a GIFT of the Holy Spirit, not a ritualistic endeavor.