JESUS IS THE ONLY WORD OF GOD

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astrophysicist

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Utah said:
I only want to know the Truth . . . and I already do. And because I know the Truth, I am not afraid to listen to differing thoughts. With that, please share what you believe to be the proof that discounts Jesus' Divinity.
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I never said there was lol In fact, there is none. Divinity is not studied in science, but with that being said there is also no emperical evidence saying that he was either. So on that we are on a level playing field. It does sound like you have answered the question before it has been asked and that is never a good way to approach things in my humble opinion.
 
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astrophysicist said:
I never said there was lol In fact, there is none. Divinity is not studied in science, but with that being said there is also no emperical evidence saying that he was either. So on that we are on a level playing field. It does sound like you have answered the question before it has been asked and that is never a good way to approach things in my humble opinion.
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Dude! You couldn't be more wrong regarding the highlighted words. Jesus' teachings were embraced and His works were witnessed by thousands of people for three years. How can you say there is no empirical evidence. Empirical evidence is the primary evidence regarding Jesus.
 
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Utah said:
There's no scientific proof regarding the origins of life that refute Jesus Christ's divinity.
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No, there isn't. You have some individuals in the field with an opposing and vociferous worldview, granted, but then I don't think the scientific community is generally hung up on refuting - let alone disproving - his divinity. Lots of skepticism, lots of unbelief, yes.
 
Euphemia

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Well thats ok. I can debate you on the scientist to beat all scientists part but that is your opinion. Allow me to repeat I live a VERY good life and I enjoy it to the fullest. I will actually agree with you on your point that life is short but not as short as some.
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Even if you live to be one hundred, your temporal life is smaller than a drop in the ocean compared to eternity. Your eternity is, shall I say---very long! Without knowing your Maker and His great love for you, it will be incredibly horrendous. But with Jesus, it will be amazing!


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Utah

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Siberian_Khatru said:
No, there isn't. You have some individuals in the field with an opposing and vociferous worldview, granted, but then I don't think the scientific community is generally hung up on refuting - let alone disproving - his divinity. Lots of skepticism, lots of unbelief, yes.
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Regarding your first sentence I think you zigged when you should have zagged.
 
astrophysicist

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Utah said:
Dude! You couldn't be more wrong regarding the highlighted words. Jesus' teachings were embraced and His works were witnessed by thousands of people for three years. How can you say there is no empirical evidence. Empirical evidence is the primary evidence regarding Jesus.
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For one, eyewitness account is NOT empirical evidence, and even though he did have good teachings so did Buddha, Ghandi, and Mr. Rodgers, they have also reached thousands of people. That is no sign of divinity in my opinion I`m very sorry.
 
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Utah said:
Dude! You couldn't be more wrong regarding the highlighted words. Jesus' teachings were embraced and His works were witnessed by thousands of people for three years. How can you say there is no empirical evidence. Empirical evidence is the primary evidence regarding Jesus.
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He makes a good point, in the science lab and classroom were focused on so may other things that a persons supposed divinity doesnt really cross our minds lol. We all have our beliefs and I respect them all, some I agree with and some I dont but when Im doing an experiment with a christian were not talking about religion but what the evidence is presenting in front of us and I would say at least 98% of the time we are in agreement.
 
Euphemia

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astrophysicist said:
For one, eyewitness account is NOT empirical evidence, and even though he did have good teachings so did Buddha, Ghandi, and Mr. Rodgers, they have also reached thousands of people. That is no sign of divinity in my opinion I`m very sorry.
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None of those others are alive. They are just a bunch of dead men. What goodness they possessed went to the grave with them.

Jesus is alive! He defeated the grave!


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Euphemia said:
Even if you live to be one hundred, your temporal life is smaller than a drop in the ocean compared to eternity. Your eternity is, shall I say---very long! Without knowing your Maker and His great love for you, it will be incredibly horrendous. But with Jesus, it will be amazing!


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I am well aware of how small and insignificant I am in this universe. Its one of the things that fascinates me the most! Im very glad you can come to the answer to a question before it is asked.
 
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Euphemia said:
None of those others are alive. They are just a bunch of dead men. What goodness they possessed went to the grave with them.

Jesus is alive! He defeated the grave!


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I dont believe that. He died just as they did. Im not saying he wasnt wise, I`m saying I think its unlikely that he was any more divine. The goodness that all of them, Jesus included possessed is still alive through the majority of their followers. Not all of them unfortunately but certainly the majority.
 
Euphemia

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I dont believe that. He died just as they did. Im not saying he wasnt wise, I`m saying I think its unlikely that he was any more divine. The goodness that all of them, Jesus included possessed is still alive through the majority of their followers. Not all of them unfortunately but certainly the majority.
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It's your choice to not believe, but it doesn't change the fact you are opting to be ignorant of that Jesus rose from the grave and was witnessed by hundreds of people.

The goodness of Jesus is that He is God and there is no one good other than He.


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Euphemia said:
It's your choice to not believe, but it doesn't change the fact you are opting to be ignorant of that Jesus rose from the grave and was witnessed by hundreds of people.

The goodness of Jesus is that He is God and there is no one good other than He.


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If you read the definition of ignorance, you would know thats not the case. I am aware of the claim but the "evidence" supporting it lacks credibility in my opinion and not to mention sounds like several other stories about different religious figures or heroes from history.
 
Euphemia

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astrophysicist said:
If you read the definition of ignorance, you would know thats not the case. I am aware of the claim but the "evidence" supporting it lacks credibility in my opinion and not to mention sounds like several other stories about different religious figures or heroes from history.
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Faith provides the evidence, because the Saviour reveals Himself to us who believe Him. History attests to Jesus rising from the grave. If you strive toward gaining the evidence, and get it, what will you do with it?

Jesus in a life changes it, gives it power and purpose, and new life. He proves Himself to His children.


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SO Amazing is his love . . .ah--i love to hear the praises of his name! Amen!!! Romans 1:16-17
 
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Too bad Astro was banned. He seemed respectful and that in and of itself provides the opportunity to have the seed of faith take root. Not arguing against his banishment, just thinking out loud.
 
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Criskey

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Hi Romans8, you write as one who has the spirit of bibles, note the plural on bible. You don't write as a soul in whom the spirit of truth, Jesus, dwells. In other words, you write as a soul not yet born of the truth, Jesus, the only truth in heaven and on earth. Recall that the word, Jesus, was made flesh, and the spirit, Jesus, also dwelt in the soul in the body that was made flesh and blood named Jesus that washed away forever the sin of souls that believe in the blood named Jesus. The only way for anyone to be born of the truth, Jesus, is simply to believe that their sin has been washed away once and forever by faith alone in the only true blood named Jesus. When they so believe, then their souls are righteous, holy, and perfect and become a dwelling place of Jesus, the spirit of truth, who then teaches them the truth that sets their souls free from the convoluted teachings of bibles, religious books and gates of hell found in the doctrines of the religions, churches, fellowships, consciences, ministries, missions, and traditions of the world. Any soul in whom the spirit of life and the life, Jesus, the Christ, does not dwell, is still unholy and still condemned, still dead, still in hell, and so cannot understand the heavenly things of the heavenly father, Jesus. Best wishes!
 
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Yes, faith is the evidence of resurrection by the washing away of sin with the only true blood named Jesus. Sin is death which is separation from life, Jesus. Righteousness is life which is resurrection by the washing away of sin with the blood named Jesus, the only mediator and reconciliation and joining of a righteous soul to life, Jesus. Consequently, Jesus in a soul changed a dead soul by giving life to the soul that was hitherto dead to the only sin of unbelief in the blood named Jesus for righteousness and life.
 
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Criskey said:
Hi Romans8, you write as one who has the spirit of bibles, note the plural on bible. You don't write as a soul in whom the spirit of truth, Jesus, dwells.
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Huh? Do you lay awake at night making this stuff up? I suggest you go back and take a careful look at my previous post. I think you'll find its a reasonable description of what most Christians consider to be a Christian. Thats what I am claiming to be: A Christian!

You, on the other hand, according to your profile, claim to be 'non Christian'.

Now, take a careful look at the address bar in your browser. It says "christianchat.com"

Its a place for Christians to chat. Not a place for not-christian heretics to spew their nonsense and accuse me of having a 'spirit of bibles'. (LOL)

Perhaps try getting some sleep, hitting the reset button and then reading an actual Bible.


Bless you in Jesus name!
 
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Romans. the souls that believe in the blood named Jesus for righteousness and life only, are joined to the spirit, Jesus, and are thus are one glorious spirit with Jesus, and one glorious body with Jesus, and are thus named Jesus, not named Christians.
 
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