The neo-Gnostic spirit of New.Modern.Hyper Grace
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You're purposely avoiding the direct questions I asked you a few posts prior. This answer here has nothing to do with what I asked.
Of course Ireneaus' writing has weight on the issue of gnostic beliefs because he wrote about what he knew. Your rabid hatred of the early church fathers doesn't invalidate it.
Of course Ireneaus' writing has weight on the issue of gnostic beliefs because he wrote about what he knew. Your rabid hatred of the early church fathers doesn't invalidate it.
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I see no evidence that he knew anything but the legalism of Rome ...and to a legalist all grace teachings sound like false doctrine and the charge of gnostic teaching has nothing to do with the true gospel of grace ...so it has no weight on the issue ..as far as your question...I still don't understand what your asking that I have not answered ...maybe you just didn't like the answer?
I think you would be more honest if you said, "I choose to see no evidence that he knew anything but the legalism of Rome." You are so blinded by hatred that you conflate everything from the early church fathers to the RCC now as if it were all the same evil.
I used to be naive like that.
I used to be naive like that.
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First He has no standing in the truth of Christ ...One of the most wicked groups in history, who have been proven to make up false early writings use his supposed writings to promote and cover for their own attacks against the true faith...and nothing he said can defeat the clear and evident truth of the gospel of grace.... No ...thankfully I don't have the capacity to be deceived by such nonsense.
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Here is some of his catholic nonsense ..
Besides emphasis on the one true church in Rome, a listing of the bishops (Popes), and Eucharistic theology, Maryology can also be found in the writing of Irenaeus. Speaking in the context of Eve and Mary, he writes,
Besides emphasis on the one true church in Rome, a listing of the bishops (Popes), and Eucharistic theology, Maryology can also be found in the writing of Irenaeus. Speaking in the context of Eve and Mary, he writes,
And if the former did disobey God, yet the latter was persuaded to be obedient to God, in order that the Virgin Mary might become the patroness (advocata) of the virgin Eve. And thus, as the human race fell into bondage to death by means of a virgin, so is it rescued by a virgin; virginal disobedience having been balanced in the opposite scale by virginal obedience.