Watching "Un-christian Porn" - protect your heart
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okie dokie..rebuke away then....give it to them all....and put them all in their place in what they should believe.....if God told you to do it...it must be true then.........
Remember in 1 Corinthians 5 this was said to the whole congregation in Corinth, not to just the leader/s there !!!
We are not to judge those outside the Church (body of believers), but Paul shows here we can judge those inside the Church !!!
Also Jesus telling believers to first remove the plank out of our eye before we see clearly to remove the splinter from another was not said to just leaders either !!! This was to all believers to mature in the faith, and thus can then help others in their sinful ways.
The op wanted to create the sense of talking about hyper-faith, or their teachers of this theology in the light of day is like watching porn.
I decided to look up testimonies from ex-charismatics. Very revealing. There is so much ignorance and blind faith, that when it fails is just ignored. In my church over the years we have had people dying of cancer year in year out, with calls for prayer etc with the expectation of healing but nothing. It is always the problem of no theology of suffering and drawing a line under a life. As we are born, so we die. It is not evil, it is our entry to be with the Lord.
But facts run lightly with these people. So to admit Joseph Prince is a WOF, prosperity and hyper-grace preacher is hard news. All the main contributors though told me there was no connection between the 3 positions. That is plain lying and stupid. Now once you have compromised integrity this much, understand who you are dealing with. Jesus is the truth, how can truth be in this group if the lie so easily and do not even attempt to correct this.
That is why my respect goes 100% from these people. There is no point lying about provable facts, it just makes you a liar, a liars never enter heaven. So understand who it is who calls themselves brothers and sisters.
Imagine if God dealt with His truth like these people, OSAS or any promise would be worth nothing. If the deciples equally had such a light view of truth, the bible would be meaningless. Truth and integrity are everything, literally.
I decided to look up testimonies from ex-charismatics. Very revealing. There is so much ignorance and blind faith, that when it fails is just ignored. In my church over the years we have had people dying of cancer year in year out, with calls for prayer etc with the expectation of healing but nothing. It is always the problem of no theology of suffering and drawing a line under a life. As we are born, so we die. It is not evil, it is our entry to be with the Lord.
But facts run lightly with these people. So to admit Joseph Prince is a WOF, prosperity and hyper-grace preacher is hard news. All the main contributors though told me there was no connection between the 3 positions. That is plain lying and stupid. Now once you have compromised integrity this much, understand who you are dealing with. Jesus is the truth, how can truth be in this group if the lie so easily and do not even attempt to correct this.
That is why my respect goes 100% from these people. There is no point lying about provable facts, it just makes you a liar, a liars never enter heaven. So understand who it is who calls themselves brothers and sisters.
Imagine if God dealt with His truth like these people, OSAS or any promise would be worth nothing. If the deciples equally had such a light view of truth, the bible would be meaningless. Truth and integrity are everything, literally.
if you believe in this HYPER-GRACE doctrine cant you watch all the porn you want with no consequences?
after all they believe God forgives future sins before it even is committed. so really, if you believe that, then porn is ok for you to watch because you are being cleansed by the blood while your watching it, right?
after all they believe God forgives future sins before it even is committed. so really, if you believe that, then porn is ok for you to watch because you are being cleansed by the blood while your watching it, right?
I agree........it's the "way" it is done that is the issue at hand. None of us has all the knowledge of the Lord which is why we need for each other to operate in the gift the Lord has given them to be a blessing to us all. Now that would be a blessing and I believe that is the Lord's heart.
In the meantime I have no problem putting "spiritual dingbats and self-proclaimed heretic hunters" on ignore..it's a blessing from the Lord...
We must be willing to look at the scriptures and sometimes people need to agree to disagree for various reasons. Surely all of us can still fellowship around the awesomeness of our Lord. His sacrifice for us and His complete work in our redemption.
* yes,..that means you can eat that meat that was sacrificed to idols.....it is a sign of the last days .LOL..*
I hope the water supply in So Cal is not affecting you. Bless you brother!
In the meantime I have no problem putting "spiritual dingbats and self-proclaimed heretic hunters" on ignore..it's a blessing from the Lord..
.We must be willing to look at the scriptures and sometimes people need to agree to disagree for various reasons. Surely all of us can still fellowship around the awesomeness of our Lord. His sacrifice for us and His complete work in our redemption.
* yes,..that means you can eat that meat that was sacrificed to idols.....it is a sign of the last days .LOL..*
I hope the water supply in So Cal is not affecting you. Bless you brother!
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The proposal here is that the christian walk is as it is. The problem is the unresolved sinful heart, desperately wicked and the pure spirit that has to reside in this corrupted stinking soul, yuck.
Now the problem isn't we should beat ourselves up but we should silence that annoying conscience and conviction of sin, and just accept this compromised life as all there is.
We have no rules but our hearts really know what the right thing is to do. Opps. Our hearts are desperately wicked and cannot be relied upon. We have no guide anymore, so we must rely on the teachers and prophets, the emotional high.
So the real message is destroy any sense of righteousness and wallow in your sin. Now which demons did people listen to to get this compromise. Do you see holy, pure, washed, loving, resolved people walking out of this cess-pool, or just condemning fighting anti-legalists who claim everyone else is of the devil, and they have the true message.
By their fruit you shall know them. All they continually tell me to do is repent, call me a self righteous hypocrite and say I teach works salvation. Now all these things are slander, and not true. They do the same with any other person who does not agree, because in their world there are only two positions, the "religious" and them, the "hyper-gracers".
It is impossible to take them seriously. Any criticism of their spiritual heritage is blasphemy. Any questioning of the fruit of love as the eternal gift of Christ is religion, and evil.
Now a false prophet, if they got one word wrong should be stoned to death. How many wrong words are acceptable to this movement, 80%. Talk about doctrine of demons, it is probably 100%, it is all so wrong they do not know what is not invented. Going to the occult and saying what they do is ok if we do it for God is simply white magic. That is how depraved they have become. If you want to follow them to Hell, it is your choice.
Now the problem isn't we should beat ourselves up but we should silence that annoying conscience and conviction of sin, and just accept this compromised life as all there is.
We have no rules but our hearts really know what the right thing is to do. Opps. Our hearts are desperately wicked and cannot be relied upon. We have no guide anymore, so we must rely on the teachers and prophets, the emotional high.
So the real message is destroy any sense of righteousness and wallow in your sin. Now which demons did people listen to to get this compromise. Do you see holy, pure, washed, loving, resolved people walking out of this cess-pool, or just condemning fighting anti-legalists who claim everyone else is of the devil, and they have the true message.
By their fruit you shall know them. All they continually tell me to do is repent, call me a self righteous hypocrite and say I teach works salvation. Now all these things are slander, and not true. They do the same with any other person who does not agree, because in their world there are only two positions, the "religious" and them, the "hyper-gracers".
It is impossible to take them seriously. Any criticism of their spiritual heritage is blasphemy. Any questioning of the fruit of love as the eternal gift of Christ is religion, and evil.
Now a false prophet, if they got one word wrong should be stoned to death. How many wrong words are acceptable to this movement, 80%. Talk about doctrine of demons, it is probably 100%, it is all so wrong they do not know what is not invented. Going to the occult and saying what they do is ok if we do it for God is simply white magic. That is how depraved they have become. If you want to follow them to Hell, it is your choice.
