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[Magenta]

Yes. I'm learning from you all.
That's what people do--they learn from each other.
Your generation is teaching my generation how to love one another.

We all learn from each other...

 

[Budman]

I do GOD's will by repenting and having faith in his cleansing. duh...

Stop with the "duh" junk. It's childish.

You said to remain saved, one must abstain from sin. Yet, you don't.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

This demonstrates how CC operates. I clearly showed a perfect correlation between Budman's OSAS (or possibly "grace" believer) beliefs and the gnostic's beliefs, and the only responses are denial and silence.

Actually, I tried to show one of these old farts that you were comparing their beliefs concerning spirit & flesh to the gnostic beliefs concerning spirit & flesh.

But, I feel ya--they're quick to jump on a mistake or 'false doctrine' with guns-a-blazin' but they're slow to compassion.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

We all learn from each other...

I thought you couldn't teach an old dog new tricks?!

 

[FreeNChrist]

The new nature gives us the ability to do GOD's will. It does not, cannot, save us. Abiding in Christ, who has already been judged, saves us from being judged.

No. Being in Christ saves us from being judged. We don't place ourselves in Christ, nor do we keep ourselves in Him.

 

[Budman]

Actually, I tried to show one of these old farts.....

Is that some of the respect and love you were talking about?

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

So, I think I need some clarification now:

If Christians don't sin, then why/how do Christians sin? (I realize this makes no sense.. which is why it beckons clarification!)

What of Sanctification?
What of Confession and Repentance?

 

[FreeNChrist]

Abiding in Christ means returning to GOD for cleansing if/when we do sin.

If you have to "return to God" you obviously are not abiding in Christ.

 

[Budman]

Yes. I'm learning from you all.
That's what people do--they learn from each other.
Your generation is teaching my generation how to love one another.

Good save.

 

[psalm6819]

Actually, I tried to show one of these old farts that you were comparing their beliefs concerning spirit & flesh to the gnostic beliefs concerning spirit & flesh.

But, I feel ya--they're quick to jump on a mistake or 'false doctrine' with guns-a-blazin' but they're slow to compassion.

Bad news, Peaceful some day YOU are gonna be an "old fart"

So don't be so quick to label

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Is that some of the respect and love you were talking about?

There's a difference between attempting to lighten the mood and showing someone the door.

 

[FreeNChrist]

This demonstrates how CC operates. I clearly showed a perfect correlation between Budman's OSAS (or possibly "grace" believer) beliefs and the gnostic's beliefs, and the only responses are denial and silence.

You've only showed your continued insistence of what has been soundly and repeatedly refuted by others.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Bad news, Peaceful some day YOU are gonna be an "old fart"

So don't be so quick to label

Just making sure everyone's blood is still pumping!

(My 13 yr old step daughter thinks I'm an old fart.)

 

[FreeNChrist]

BDF should be for anyone.

Then you better put on your big girl undies.

 

[Budman]

There's a difference between attempting to lighten the mood and showing someone the door.

Well, keep in mind it's next to impossible to emote on a message board.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

If you have to "return to God" you obviously are not abiding in Christ.

What of Confession and Repentance? (Sanctification)

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Then you better put on your big girl undies.

Can I borrow some of yours?

Seriously though -- Do you try hard to sound like an irritating and contemptible person, or does it just come naturally?

(Your recent comment comes across as sexist, demeaning, and condescending.)

"Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

 

[FreeNChrist]

Can I borrow some of yours?

Seriously though -- Do you try hard to sound like an irritating and contemptible person, or does it just come naturally?

(Your recent comment comes across as sexist, demeaning, and condescending.)

"Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

Now who needs to lighten up?

 

[FreeNChrist]

What of Confession and Repentance? (Sanctification)

What of it?

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Well, keep in mind it's next to impossible to emote on a message board.

Definitely.