NICE! Sanders thread

[GodIsSalvation]

Actually it is an error in thinking. It's what makes it so easy to dismiss all of your political arguments. It shows lack of good character traits like self respect, personal accountability, self discipline and it indicates a lack of healthy relationships, respect for others and humility.

Nay, it is not an error of thinking. Dichotomy is logic at its ultimate. Black and white, yes and no, day and night, illuminati and umbranati, light and darkness, good and evil. This is how reality actually is, that's why you can't ever really dismiss my political arguments lol you can only try to squirm around them and they make you uncomfortable because you've been heavily programmed in the past to doublethink.

That's okay though Sir Sirk, it's very common for your generation and mine. We shall purge secularism from reality, it is all ready in its last death throes along with many of the other false religions and philosophies. If I did not have hope for you I merely would not talk to you. Cast away the doublethink, that's your only problem I know of. Let me tell you of your virtues. I like your strength (not carnal either) and I believe you do actually care about my generation. Also you are my ally against the extreme leftists, and there's not many in my generation that are against the leftist policies in case you have not noticed, so every ally is counted a blessing.

Stand with the forces of light and strengthen us that we may stand in the terrible years to come, bless the name of the Lord.

 

[Kisses1990]

Maybe you honestly missed what I wrote, or you only read what you want... I am 100% opposed to abortion. I'm 100% pro-life.

The president/congress can propose anything they want... the Supreme court can override whatever law they think is unconstitutional. You're correct in that the Supreme court doesn't make law, however, it interprets law which can almost be the same thing (although it shouldn't).

So my point still stands. Sanders being a life long pro-choice member (like Trump) is moot in that the executive branch has no jurisdiction over the judiciary (or even legislative) branch.

Just curious, are you 100% opposed to it for all circumstances? Not in cases where women use it as a form of birth control, but suppose the fetus will not survive longer than a few hours post birth, why go through that? I don't particularly LIKE the idea of killing things, but I think there are some good arguments to be made for abortion, especially in light of certain unfortunate circumstances. So I support Bernies stance and I imagine he shares a similar one. I don't htink anyyone gets a "kick" out of abortions lol it's not a "cool" thing. But at times, necessary.

 

[Sirk]

Nay, it is not an error of thinking. Dichotomy is logic at its ultimate. Black and white, yes and no, day and night, illuminati and umbranati, light and darkness, good and evil. This is how reality actually is, that's why you can't ever really dismiss my political arguments lol you can only try to squirm around them and they make you uncomfortable because you've been heavily programmed in the past to doublethink.

That's okay though Sir Sirk, we shall purge secularism from reality, it is all ready in its last death throes along with many of the other false religions and philosophies. If I did not have hope for you I merely would not talk to you. Cast away the doublethink, that's your only problem I know of. Let me tell you of your virtues. I like your strength (not carnal either) and I believe you do actually care about my generation. Also you are my ally against the extreme leftists, and there's not many in my generation that are against the leftist policies in case you have not noticed, so every ally is counted a blessing.

Stand with the forces of light and strengthen us that we may stand in the terrible years to come, bless the name of the Lord.

Well you can stay stuck in your errors in thinking if you wish and couch them in religious rhetoric if you like. We do have that right here in America for now. But I have a huge advantage over you in experience in dealing with lots of people who hold fast such thinking. A person who is secure in themselves doesn't need to think in terms of black and white. If you wanna share that trait with the prison population have at it.

 

[KimPetras]

When you're boo'd out of the Trump thread for not abiding by the rules so you come to the liberal thread...

Only to find out that all of the conservatives from the Trump thread are breaking the rules in the liberal thread the same exact way you did....

...You gotta be kidding me.

Double standards are commonplace, especially with Trump and Hillary supporters.

I actually contributed positively to the Nice Trump thread by listing things I do in fact like about him (as difficult as it was). I guess I must have been delusional to think Trump supporters would do the same for Bernie, even though they have a lot of overlapping policies/beliefs. The difference being, we know Bernie actually means what he says.

 

[KimPetras]

Just curious, are you 100% opposed to it for all circumstances? Not in cases where women use it as a form of birth control, but suppose the fetus will not survive longer than a few hours post birth, why go through that? I don't particularly LIKE the idea of killing things, but I think there are some good arguments to be made for abortion, especially in light of certain unfortunate circumstances. So I support Bernies stance and I imagine he shares a similar one. I don't htink anyyone gets a "kick" out of abortions lol it's not a "cool" thing. But at times, necessary.

If it's a tubular pregnancy I can understand and condone an abortion. As far as Bernie's stance, I could be mistaken, but he is for indiscriminate abortion. I can't get behind that idea, no matter how much I like him. It's probably one of only a handful of issues I disagree with him on. (the only other off the top of my head is gun control)

 

[Utah]

Oh okay, thanks for clarifying! Although I don't agree with it, I see that many socialists have their hearts in the right mindset. They just want to help other people out. My brother is a Sanders supporter. I am not, but I understand them somewhat hehe.

Unfortunately you're not right with your statement. Socialists don't care about others, their MO is hatred for people who have lots of money and they want some of it, and unjustly at that. It they cared, they'd contact the IRS and instruct the government to take out 70% of their earnings and give it to the impoverished. NONE OF THEM DO.

 

[Utah]

Well, here comes Utah trying to harass me again... Aren't you tired of losing arguments from last night? You clearly have nothing nice to say about Sanders, so why are you trying to quote-mine me? Go back to the bigoted Trump thread if you hate Sanders...

Ahh, so you refuse to give up your money but demand others give up theirs. Typical socialist.

 

[KimPetras]

Unfortunately you're not right with your statement. Socialists don't care about others, their MO is hatred for people who have lots of money and they want some of it, and unjustly at that. It they cared, they'd contact the IRS and instruct the government to take out 70% of their earnings and give it to the impoverished. NONE OF THEM DO.

Bill and Melinda Gates along with Warren Buffet created "The Giving Pledge" which one can only be a member of if they give a significant portion of their wealth to charity. To date, a multitude of billionaires around the world have joined. Just thought you might be interested in their work.

 

[Sirk]

Double standards are commonplace, especially with Trump and Hillary supporters.

I actually contributed positively to the Nice Trump thread by listing things I do in fact like about him (as difficult as it was). I guess I must have been delusional to think Trump supporters would do the same for Bernie, even though they have a lot of overlapping policies/beliefs. The difference being, we know Bernie actually means what he says.

You did....and I actually kind of like you. You state your views and listen to others pretty well. I think you are young and finding your way. My only suggestion is to consider what Utah, P, Mitspa and others have to say on here and don't get stuck in a worldly ideology. They really do care about your best interests. A mature person shows gratitude, earns the respect of others, has healthy associations, controls feelings and works toward solutions, is considerate, views criticism as positive feedback, makes decisions based on facts not feelings, uses past experience as a learning tool, trusts others and asks for help and understanding, admits fears and meets challenges and sees genuine value in others...... and I could go on and on.......

 

[sealabeag]

Bill and Melinda Gates along with Warren Buffet created "The Giving Pledge" which one can only be a member of if they give a significant portion of their wealth to charity. To date, a multitude of billionaires around the world have joined. Just thought you might be interested in their work.

It's a pity that what they consider charity oftentimes means ideological colonisation.

 

[Kisses1990]

Unfortunately you're not right with your statement. Socialists don't care about others, their MO is hatred for people who have lots of money and they want some of it, and unjustly at that. It they cared, they'd contact the IRS and instruct the government to take out 70% of their earnings and give it to the impoverished. NONE OF THEM DO.

Because you can speak for every socialist out there? I didn't know you were all knowing... Maybe you should have a website dedicated to you, but that would already inflate your pretentious ego. For the record, I am not a socialist. But I will support something great like universal health care. Again, much of our culture is socialized with libraries, public schools, and social security. To answer your question, yes I'd comply with a tax spike for the greater good of all civilization. You seem to be the one afraid of losing your money, not me. You're 51? I sure hope you don't end up getting social security in the next 10-20 years... Practice what you preach.

 

[Sirk]

Because you can speak for every socialist out there? I didn't know you were all knowing... Maybe you should have a website dedicated to you, but that would already inflate your pretentious ego. For the record, I am not a socialist. But I will support something great like universal health care. Again, much of our culture is socialized with libraries, public schools, and social security. To answer your question, yes I'd comply with a tax spike for the greater good of all civilization. You seem to be the one afraid of losing your money, not me. You're 51? I sure hope you don't end up getting social security in the next 10-20 years... Practice what you preach.

That right there is a false argument. Social security isn't an entitlement....at least it wasn't supposed to be until your socialists leaders had to rob from it from the hard working people who their money in there to pay for all of their social engineering projects. You just can't resist attacking the person because the fact is that your arguments are without merit and theirs are. Lol

 

[Utah]

Bill and Melinda Gates along with Warren Buffet created "The Giving Pledge" which one can only be a member of if they give a significant portion of their wealth to charity. To date, a multitude of billionaires around the world have joined. Just thought you might be interested in their work.

A multitude of billionaires? Do a multitude of billions even exist?

 

[Kisses1990]

^^ I haven't heard a single good, coherent argument that is against universal healthcare.

 

[Sirk]

It's a pity that what they consider charity oftentimes means ideological colonisation.

Bill and Melinda alone could solve the homeless vet problem in America. Instead they throw bad money at bad social engineering.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Well you can stay stuck in your errors in thinking if you wish and couch them in religious rhetoric if you like. We do have that right here in America for now. But I have a huge advantage over you in experience in dealing with lots of people who hold fast such thinking. A person who is secure in themselves doesn't need to think in terms of black and white. If you wanna share that trait with the prison population have at it.

Well, what do you think is the error in the thinking of dichotomy? I would think a person secure in themselves would understand the dichotomy of our current reality and would pick a side and hold fast. Perhaps it is religious rhetoric, for our religion anyways. The big error of dichotomy in my opinion is trying to maintain the dichotomy, rather in Christianity while the dichotomy is acknowledged due to the fallen state of the world the goal is for the Light to prevail and conquer the darkness.


The Bible is indeed the basis for this mode of thinking whereas the false religions seem to try to make room for grey since it allows for their proliferation (ie: secularism obviously, islam surprisingly (last chapter of koran), Buddhism of course, and Taoism, which may seem contradictory, but Taoism is about believing the dichotomy is good, and that the forces of darkness are good to provide balance, which makes no rational sense, lol, but the Asian religions don't often make sense.)


And to feebly tie this to the topic. If you like the false religions and want to continue to let their confusion and darkness spread across America, Comrade Bernie is the most vocal in terms of toleration of demonic religions.

 

[Utah]

Because you can speak for every socialist out there? I didn't know you were all knowing... Maybe you should have a website dedicated to you, but that would already inflate your pretentious ego. For the record, I am not a socialist. But I will support something great like universal health care. Again, much of our culture is socialized with libraries, public schools, and social security. To answer your question, yes I'd comply with a tax spike for the greater good of all civilization. You seem to be the one afraid of losing your money, not me. You're 51? I sure hope you don't end up getting social security in the next 10-20 years... Practice what you preach.

I don't have money so I'm not going to lose it. I do however have extreme faith in Jesus, a loving family, fantastic lifelong friends, and integrity for being painfully honest, a trait liberals hate with seething contempt. That said, I'm glad you're here, Grasshopper. I like pet projects.

 

[Sirk]

^^ I haven't heard a single good, coherent argument that is against universal healthcare.

It is govt control over 1/6 of an economy that is 20trillion in debt. Is that coherent enough for you?

 

[Utah]

Bill and Melinda Gates along with Warren Buffet created "The Giving Pledge" which one can only be a member of if they give a significant portion of their wealth to charity. To date, a multitude of billionaires around the world have joined. Just thought you might be interested in their work.

On edit: I'm not talking about a select few billionaires; I'm talking about common, everyday liberal tards who hate everything they can't control and demand others exist according to their specifics.

 

[KimPetras]

A multitude of billionaires? Do a multitude of billions even exist?

A total of 1,645 people made the 2014 billionaire list, representing combined wealth of $6.4 trillion.

Of the 1,645 billionaires (in 2014), 142 have joined the pledge. That is about 8.6% of billionaires willing to give the majority of their wealth away. I respect them immensely.

Warren Buffet is a sort of personal hero of mine. Even he complains how he pays less in taxes than his own secretaries. No one can tell him to "donate his money" because he's one of the most philanthropic people in history.