CONFESSING YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS PLEASES GOD

[phil112]

Originally Posted by Stunnedbygrace

But I've definitely been listening to a lot of Princes sermons so if there's false thoughts about God in them I'm sure I'll run across them.

Amen...I don't agree with everything any preacher says but as far as the grace of Christ...he is spot on!...does he not always lift up Jesus in his teaching? ..personally I listen to many different teachers and find that the Holy Spirit leads me to the one I need to hear what the Lord is talking to me about. It's great!

I almost choked. Then I have to keep from spitting up all over my keyboard.
Seriously? I brought up two problems with him here and you still say that?
Bring truth to someone, they turn their back to it, and still believe false doctrine.
The bible says so much about that sort of thing that I just don't see any profit in me pursuing it further.

 

[phil112]

................I listen to many different teachers and find that the Holy Spirit leads me to the one I need to hear what the Lord is talking to me about.............

God's spirit never leads a person to listen to false doctrine. Never.
You need to try the spirits and find out whose you're following.

 

[Grace777x70]

God's spirit never leads a person to listen to false doctrine. Never.
You need to try the spirits and find out whose you're following.

Thank you Phil...I do that all the time..as a matter of fact - I am doing it right now...

Maybe you could pray for stunnedbygrace and myself and all the others that believe in the gospel of the grace of Christ. We would all appreciate it....Bless you!...

 

[Stunnedbygrace]

I followed the conversation quite avidly and attentively. I agreed with the others. He has become my righteousness.

 

[Grace777x70]

I almost choked. Then I have to keep from spitting up all over my keyboard.
Seriously? I brought up two problems with him here and you still say that?
Bring truth to someone, they turn their back to it, and still believe false doctrine.
The bible says so much about that sort of thing that I just don't see any profit in me pursuing it further.

Your "problems" were addressed in post #62 and #66 in this thread....I hope that helps you....

 

[Complete_In_Him]

Your "problems" were addressed in post #62 and #66 in this thread....I hope that helps you....

har har har, in other news...

I love this post, because yesterday, I realized some of things/scripture I said/posted were already in your earlier posts. And just now, I saw a post by Chuckt #138, that I used again similar scripture in a post I made #161 -_-

I miss so many posts on threads after a few pages or if the posts move fast.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

I don't make a doctrine out of it..it's just my personal belief that grace and Jesus are synonymous as outlined by the scriptures in that post.

It's more than a personal belief. That's taught as doctrine by false-grace teachers like Prince, Ellis and others.

 

[phil112]

Your "problems" were addressed in post #62 and #66 in this thread....I hope that helps you....

Helps me what? Ignore the fact that prince adds to and takes words away from the gospel to form his own doctrine?
Nothing anyone can say will do that. I believe the bible. Listen to who you want, use who you want for input, but at the end of the day the bible must be the final authority.
And your prince fella fails that test.

 

[Chuckt]

This goes back a long time but he allegedly once taught that baptism is necessary for salvation.

Beware of Max Lucado

 

[Grace777x70]

This goes back a long time but he allegedly once taught that baptism is necessary for salvation.

Beware of Max Lucado

Allegedly is the operative word. He is doing what all self-proclaimed heretic hunters do :..create suspicion to discredit something else that a person is actually saying. Heretic hunters have the habit of "twisting" some one's words to make them say something other then the intended use of them as we have seen done in this thread.

Even "IF" he did think that 20 years ago - which one of us has not changed our beliefs about the grace of God when the Holy Spirit gives us repentance to see the beauty of our Lord's completed work?...I would dare say none of us in the body of Christ has always known all things and will not ever know all things in it's fullness.

We will be learning and marveling at the beauty and grace of Christ towards us for all of eternity! Our Father can't wait to show us His grace in kindness.

Ephesians 2:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.


Our good, loving Father is awesome as is our salvation in our Lord Jesus Christ!

 

[Grace777x70]

Helps me what? Ignore the fact that prince adds to and takes words away from the gospel to form his own doctrine?
Nothing anyone can say will do that. I believe the bible. Listen to who you want, use who you want for input, but at the end of the day the bible must be the final authority.
And your prince fella fails that test.

I understand where you are coming from. So, by saying that the bible must be final authority - by that, you mean "the way I interpret" what the bible says according to your understanding of it.

All of us in the body of Christ do that in some form or other.....anyway..have a great day and the Lord bless you abundantly!

I pray that you and all of us grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus!..He is mighty to save and He has done great things for us....

 

[FreeNChrist]

This goes back a long time but he allegedly once taught that baptism is necessary for salvation.

Beware of Max Lucado

Since he doesn't think that today why would you even bring it up??

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Allegedly is the operative word. He is doing what all self-proclaimed heretic hunters do :..create suspicion to discredit something else that a person is actually saying. Heretic hunters have the habit of "twisting" some one's words to make them say something other then the intended use of them as we have seen done in this thread.

Even "IF" he did think that 20 years ago - which one of us has not changed our beliefs about the grace of God when the Holy Spirit gives us repentance to see the beauty of our Lord's completed work?...I would dare say none of us in the body of Christ has always known all things and will not ever know all things in it's fullness.

You just don't like the red hot spotlight shining on and exposing your errors, so you create an entire class of offense that pointing out errors in doctrine is heresy hunting, and accuse those who do such of malice and slander.

The article clearly states that the author talked on the phone with the man, so his belief is not in doubt. If he did believe that 20 years ago, then there is no reason to assume that he doesn't believe the same now. He may not, but without evidence it's pointless to adopt a position that he may not and that people's words don't matter and shouldn't be judged for their content. Words do mean something; they are not approximations of truth. A mind steeped in postmodern relativism seeks to define truth per individual interpretation, and to demonize absolute truth and doctrine.

 

[Grace777x70]

oh brother.......the malice continues....The Lord is good and His mercy endures forever!

 

[FreeNChrist]

You just don't like the red hot spotlight shining on and exposing your errors, so you create an entire class of offense that pointing out errors in doctrine is heresy hunting, and accuse those who do such of malice and slander.

The article clearly states that the author talked on the phone with the man, so his belief is not in doubt. If he did believe that 20 years ago, then there is no reason to assume that he doesn't believe the same now. He may not, but without evidence it's pointless to adopt a position that he may not and that people's words don't matter and shouldn't be judged for their content. Words do mean something; they are not approximations of truth. A mind steeped in postmodern relativism seeks to define truth per individual interpretation, and to demonize absolute truth and doctrine.

There is plenty of evidence, if one is seeking truth, and not just interested in furthering their own agenda at the expense of anybody and anything. The "doctrine by internet" guru suddenly can't remember how to use that Google thing? LOL.

 

[JustWhoIAm]

Did David do a good job? He was a strong warrior and king.
Did God do a good job? He brought David up and was an ever-present help.

The answer is yes.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

oh brother.......the malice continues....The Lord is good and His mercy endures forever!

See. You turned something with absolutely no malice into malice. This is just the natural fruit of your doctrine that has a passive aggressive, us/them mentality baked into it. It defines itself by pointing the finger at those who don't agree with it and saying we're not like them.

 

[KJV1611]

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...the righteousness of faith speaks... [/TD]
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[TD="colspan: 3, align: left"] Every time you confess, “I am the righteousness of God in Christ”, God the Father is pleased. When you confess that you are the righteousness of God in Christ, it reminds Him of what His Son has done for you to become righteous. ( 1 Cor. 1:30 ; 2 Cor. 5:21 )

Also, by making you righteous, God is showing Himself righteous—“to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus”. (Romans 3:26)

Each time Jesus hears you confess, “I am the righteousness of God in Christ,” it brings much pleasure to His heart too, because you are laying hold of what He suffered and died to give you.

The Holy Spirit, who now indwells you to convict you of righteousness (John 16:10), also rejoices when you confess, “I am the righteousness of God in Christ.” He is pleased when you flow with Him.

The delight of the Godhead is not the only thing you gain when you declare, “I am the righteousness of God in Christ.” The Bible tells us that when you “seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness…all these things shall be added to you”. (Matthew 6:33)

Whether it is food, clothing or other necessities in life, “all these things” will be added to you. They will not just be given to you, but added to you as your inheritance when you seek first His righteousness.

You don’t need to use your faith for every single need in life. You need to use your faith for one main thing—to believe that you are the righteousness of God in Christ, and it will cause all the blessings you seek to come after you and overtake you!

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Witchcraft at it's finest. Repeat the magic words over and over and over like Mr Prince did in the article and the release the power of "the god". Folks don't be fooled by this stuff, God is not bound by your acts of obedience, he blesses whenever he wants. You don't have to chant magical phrases to release the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

 

[Grace777x70]

Witchcraft at it's finest. Repeat the magic words over and over and over like Mr Prince did in the article and the release the power of "the god". Folks don't be fooled by this stuff, God is not bound by your acts of obedience, he blesses whenever he wants. You don't have to chant magical phrases to release the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

I hardly think confessing the word of God is witchcraft...but each to their own...

The scriptures were to show that God made us the righteousness of Christ because of faith in His work...the gospel...go read all the posts in this thread with scriptures on righteousness and that might help you as far as understanding righteousness and the believer.

Confessing just means to "say the same thing"....when we confess truth we are saying the same thing that God says

...For example:... "if we confess that Jesus is the Son of God , God abides in you " 1 John 4:15

( I guess this is called witchcraft too...but I love to confess this truth over my life )

[FONT="Gentium" !important]homologeō[/FONT]

Literally., "to speak the same thing" ([FONT="Gentium" !important]homōs[/FONT], "same," [FONT="Gentium" !important]legō[/FONT], "to speak"), "to assent, accord, agree with,"

Vine's Expository Dictionary of Old Testament and New Testament Words.

I trust that this helps you with the understanding in this area..we have a great salvation in or Lord..have a great day!....



Here is a great scripture that tells us that our faith will become effective ( working ) when we "acknowledge" every good thing ( like righteousness, sanctification, wisdom, redemption..etc ) that is in us in Christ...

Philemon 1:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] That the communication of thy faith may become effectual by the acknowledging of every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

My chains are gone, I've been set free.
My God, My Saviour has ransomed me.
And Like a Flood His Mercy Reigns.
Unending Love, Amazing Grace.


Thank You Lord, for making me Righteous.
For giving me the gift of standing before you, justified.

Amen, I have found rest in your love, because I finally realized i do not have to work to earn your love, I have it unconditionally. Thus I can concentrate not on being good, and not doing evil. But on serving people and becoming more like you.