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valiant said:
As usual you misrepresent Gnosticism. They believed they were 'saved' by knowledge LITERALLY, knowledge which came to them through emanations as they advanced from one to another. There was no goodness about it either imputed or imparted.
They did not believe in the Holy Spirit as we do. They believed their knowledge of emanations made them what they called 'spiritual'. Their flesh could be as evil as they wanted.. Their magic formulae pertained to their peculiar idea of 'Knowledge' which meant knowledge of higher emanations.

you should LEARN what they teach before talking about them.,
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You are so ignorant about Christian gnosticism, yet try to appear as if you know so much, that it makes me laugh.
 
Stunnedbygrace said:
I think it never becomes useless unless we begin to walk in the same spirit. If we keep walking in the Spirit we know, there is always hope. But we let another spirit influence us and it goes downhill real quick. :) Hope, faith and love!
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This is true.

But him accusing us of falsely accusing him

Then us accusing him of falsly accusing us

How long does it go on before the fruit starts to be so rotten it does not even resemble the fruit it was when it began?

 
Originally Posted by valiant As usual you misrepresent Gnosticism. They believed they were 'saved' by knowledge LITERALLY, knowledge which came to them through emanations as they advanced from one to another. There was no goodness about it either imputed or imparted.
They did not believe in the Holy Spirit as we do. They believed their knowledge of emanations made them what they called 'spiritual'. Their flesh could be as evil as they wanted.. Their magic formulae pertained to their peculiar idea of 'Knowledge' which meant knowledge of higher emanations.

you should LEARN what they teach before talking about them.,
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
You are so ignorant about Christian gnosticism, yet try to appear as if you know so much, that it makes me laugh.
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well PROVE i'm wrong, or apologise.
 
Grace777x70 said:
Allegedly is the operative word. He is doing what all self-proclaimed heretic hunters do :..create suspicion to discredit something else that a person is actually saying. Heretic hunters have the habit of "twisting" some one's words to make them say something other then the intended use of them as we have seen done in this thread.

Even "IF" he did think that 20 years ago - which one of us has not changed our beliefs about the grace of God when the Holy Spirit gives us repentance to see the beauty of our Lord's completed work?...I would dare say none of us in the body of Christ has always known all things and will not ever know all things in it's fullness.

We will be learning and marveling at the beauty and grace of Christ towards us for all of eternity! Our Father can't wait to show us His grace in kindness.

Ephesians 2:7 (NASB)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.


Our good, loving Father is awesome as is our salvation in our Lord Jesus Christ!
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Amen...Yes so very true. How many of us would pass the test if all our words were put on youtube!?? I would hide in a hole and never come out. We humans change all the time (and we should and we MUST) but Jesus never changes. Eph.2:7 AMEN.
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
You are so ignorant about Christian gnosticism, yet try to appear as if you know so much, that it makes me laugh.
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See what I mean, What purpose can this type of conversation do to produce any fruit at all?

Like this for example How many times does he have to say it. And how many times do we have to say the same thing about him before the conversation becomes fruitless.

It is no longer an EG vs HR conversation or discussion. It is (whoever HR got his gnostic knowledge from vs whoever EG God his vew from)

It is a waste of time. If they do not want to discuss what people actually believes, which this person has proven time and time again he has no desire to do this. Then why bother anymore?
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
I've never been one to listen to sanctimonious Christian posers.
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Budman said:
While being the very definition of sanctimonious yourself...
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As I was saying, what good is this going to do to convince anyone they are wrong?

There has to be a time we have to say enough is enough, And yes, I have been guilty of it in the past. I am not saying I am innocent here.
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
The only way I know to stop passive aggressive behavior is to not enable it by confronting it directly. I know what co-dependency is all about (fear on both sides).
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Oh! I'm laughing! Not at you though. :)
That never worked for me, no matter how hard I tried to bring it out in the open, the P-A kept insisting they had only good and loving motives and reasons. And it made perfect sense that someone who had planned their crime beforehand and covered every eventuality would labor very, very hard to protect what they'd constructed! If it hadn't been so carefully premeditated, I might have had a chance. ;) (Don't know why I'm laughing - they can make your life miserable, poking and poking and chasing you around).

And when it is familial, since all are using the same operating system, they team up against you to protect their way of life!
What's worse than one P-A?
Dozens in the same room! ;)
 
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