CONFESSING YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS PLEASES GOD

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Stunnedbygrace said:
don't worry. I would be VERY surprised if 777 said this. And if I ever heard him say it, I would assume I just did not understand what He was meaning to say. I would ask Peter to direct me to the thread where he said it, but I've already been down that long and winding road with Peter and he could not produce the evidence of what he claimed 777 said.

But I don't think Peter was lying exactly. I think in his mind if any televangelist whatsoever said it, then777 said it too! It's quite bizarre but I don't think he was TRYING to tell a lie, with outright deceit. The result was still a lie but I think he somehow really believes it.
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Grace777x70 posts videos and teachings all of the time of teachers who teach this doctrine. He definitely believes it. Here's his initial confession (you can click on the >> symbol by my name in the quote to see the entirety of what I said and what he says is true)

> Hyper Grace thread in which Grace777x70 made his grand appearance

That thread will give you a good idea of what grace777x70 actually believes.
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Grace777x70 posts videos and teachings all of the time of teachers who teach this doctrine. He definitely believes it. Here's his initial confession (you can click on the >> symbol by my name in the quote to see the entirety of what I said and what he says is true)

> Hyper Grace thread in which Grace777x70 made his grand appearance

That thread will give you a good idea of what grace777x70 actually believes.
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I hope and pray she does like everyone else has done, and test your so called evidence, only to find you are falsely accusing a man, because you refuse to listen to what he said, and instead base your facts on what others say. and comes back and tells you what the rest of us have showed you.

Although sadly, I doubt you will listen to her either.

Grace777 has already said he does not believe in everything the person who made the video believes, and a few of the videos your mad at has been proven to be false accused, Where Grace777 posted it to show what YOU were talking about. not because he believed it.

 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
You need to quit your false accusations. Grace777x70 posts teachings all the time of false-grace teachers who do teach this doctrine (e.g., Farley, Prince, Rufus, etc), and either supports it, or hasn't denied that he believes and follows it.
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If you are looking for any teacher with a perfect understanding of God and perfect thoughts and beliefs and doctrines, you will be looking for a long, long time, and in vain.
 
I definitely believe in the gospel of the grace of Christ and I am not ashamed of it either! It is the power of God for salvation to those that believe.

Make no mistake - grace is offensive and is a stumbling block to some just like Jesus said He would be.

Romans 1:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."

I love to boast in what great salvation we have in our Lord Jesus and in all that He has done for us. We are new creations in Him!

Ephesians 2:8-9 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
[SUP]9 [/SUP] not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.

1 Corinthians 1:30-31 (NASB)
[SUP]30 [/SUP] But by His doing you are in Christ Jesus, who became to us wisdom from God, and righteousness and sanctification, and redemption,
[SUP]31 [/SUP] so that, just as it is written, "LET HIM WHO BOASTS, BOAST IN THE LORD."

The Lord has done great things for us and He is mighty to save!
 
"For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?" 1 John 5:4-5

But we still have those running around saying believers might be lost one day, saved the next day, etc....My victory is in Him alone. For His blood bought me, the Holy Spirit sealed me with a promise!

"In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory." Eph 1:13-14
 
Stunnedbygrace said:
If you are looking for any teacher with a perfect understanding of God and perfect thoughts and beliefs and doctrines, you will be looking for a long, long time, and in vain.
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100% accuracy in everything is not necessary. 100% accuracy in the essentials is absolutely essential.

You have a contradictory nature. First you say that you don't support the belief that the lord's prayer is an old covenant prayer not meant for us, then indirectly you support the teaching of such by justifying those who teach it.
 
Psalms 147:3
He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds.
 
I looked at 2 pages. It directed me to pg 9 I think. But it is the same as all the other threads. Same broken record of this is the time of Gods grace and favor versus no the news is not that good and He will not accomplish in us all that He said He would.
 
Stunnedbygrace said:
If you are looking for any teacher with a perfect understanding of God and perfect thoughts and beliefs and doctrines, you will be looking for a long, long time, and in vain.
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Some people are against the message of the gospel of the grace of Christ because some elements of it "conflicts" with what they have been taught...and they are allowed to have their own opinions...but when it comes down to name-calling like ...being satanic, false-teachers, evil workers that love to sin...being called greasy gracists...one even changed my name to greasy-gracist777...you can see what "spirit" is driving this behavior. I just ignore the slander and malice and give out the scriptures that speak of the great salvation that is in our Lord by grace through faith in Him only.
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
100% accuracy in everything is not necessary. 100% accuracy in the essentials is absolutely essential.

You have a contradictory nature. First you say that you don't support the belief that the lord's prayer is an old covenant prayer not meant for us, then indirectly you support the teaching of such by justifying those who teach it.
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This is getting to sound like a bad broken record
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eternally-gratefull said:
I hope and pray she does like everyone else has done, and test your so called evidence, only to find you are falsely accusing a man, because you refuse to listen to what he said, and instead base your facts on what others say. and comes back and tells you what the rest of us have showed you.

Although sadly, I doubt you will listen to her either.

Grace777 has already said he does not believe in everything the person who made the video believes, and a few of the videos your mad at has been proven to be false accused, Where Grace777 posted it to show what YOU were talking about. not because he believed it.
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This is a perfect example of how you stir threads up into chaos and acrimony by making false accusations based on mischaracterizations. The link I provided clearly shows that grace777x70 admitted that the teaching is true that the lord's prayer is an old covenant prayer not meant for new covenant believers. Yet you mischaracterize the issue by implying what's obvious is false because he says he doesn't believe everything the person teaches.

Perfect example of how you poison a thread.
 
Grace777x70 said:
Some people are against the message of the gospel of the grace of Christ because some elements of it "conflicts" with what they have been taught...and they are allowed to have their own opinions...but when it comes down to name-calling like ...being satanic, false-teachers, evil workers that love to sin...being called greasy gracists...one even changed my name to greasy-gracist777...you can see what "spirit" is driving this behavior. I just ignore the slander and malice and give out the scriptures that speak of the great salvation that is in our Lord by grace through faith in Him only.
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That you had to suffer such name calling is terrible ... but I do applaud your courage and steadfastness in preaching the gospel, Grace...keep up the good work!
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
100% accuracy in everything is not necessary. 100% accuracy in the essentials is absolutely essential.

You have a contradictory nature. First you say that you don't support the belief that the lord's prayer is an old covenant prayer not meant for us, then indirectly you support the teaching of such by justifying those who teach it.
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The man in the article did not say that prayer is not for us. It is still true that if we don't forgive then we will not be forgiven.
I think the difference lies in resting in Jesus to make us good versus trying hard to be good.
I think that's at the root of this never-ending problem.

In other words, one group sees in the verse if you abide in Him you will not sin and says, wow! How He will accomplish this is beyond my understanding but I trust Him to do this! The other group sees, if you abide in Him you MUST not sin.
One way leads to trust in Him and the other leads to trust in our ability to not sin.
Oceans apart there.
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
This is a perfect example of how you stir threads up into chaos and acrimony by making false accusations based on mischaracterizations. The link I provided clearly shows that grace777x70 admitted that the teaching is true that the lord's prayer is an old covenant prayer not meant for new covenant believers. Yet you mischaracterize the issue by implying what's obvious is false because he says he doesn't believe everything the person teaches.

Perfect example of how you poison a thread.
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yet everyone who goes to your link, comes back and tells you you were wrong.

Why do you think everyone is out to get you? Why can't you just for one minute, sit still,, and listen to someone tell you what they believe, before you have to come make accusations against them which are not true?

I had people like you false accuse me of believing things I did not believe because I said I liked scofield. and dwight Pentecost. Even though the thing they accused me of (which scofieled did not actually teach, and I am not sure pentecost or others did) it went on and on and on. And I could not believe people would not confront them on their false accusations.. Well I am here to tell you. I will not be like them, I see someone falsly accuse a brother, I will confront the false accuser. I will not be an enabler.
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
This is a perfect example of how you stir threads up into chaos and acrimony by making false accusations based on mischaracterizations. The link I provided clearly shows that grace777x70 admitted that the teaching is true that the lord's prayer is an old covenant prayer not meant for new covenant believers. Yet you mischaracterize the issue by implying what's obvious is false because he says he doesn't believe everything the person teaches.


Perfect example of how you poison a thread.
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Gnosticism seems like poison to me ... yet some bring it eagerly to the board for perusal.
 
I can see what the apostle Paul had to put up with. He must have had people following him around, falsely accusing him of teaching a license for sin! Same thing goes on here.

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" Rom 6:1-2
 
Grace777x70 said:
Now stunnedbygrace is being maligned next.....it's the nature of the beast...welcome to the defense of the gospel of the grace of Christ!......:)
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I was pretty amazed, Stunnedbygrace had just said she went to his link and could not find what he was claiming,

Yet he once again had to say it was me trying to cause contention..lol

how many times do you have to show someone something before they realise it is true?
 
HeRoseFromTheDead said:
This is a perfect example of how you stir threads up into chaos and acrimony by making false accusations based on mischaracterizations. The link I provided clearly shows that grace777x70 admitted that the teaching is true that the lord's prayer is an old covenant prayer not meant for new covenant believers. Yet you mischaracterize the issue by implying what's obvious is false because he says he doesn't believe everything the person teaches.

Perfect example of how you poison a thread.
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That's not what He says. I have seen the same thing that some of it can be confusing if we don't remember that when Jesus came and spoke, the OC was still in effect. After His death, it is a NC. A will does not go into effect until someone dies.
 
Folks...let's not fall for the "baiting" because it only takes away from focusing on the Lord..let's just take the malice and slander and the Lord will be our defense and also the one to reveal where we need to learn new truths about the awesomeness of our Lord.

Let's concentrate on talking about the beauty of our Lord's salvation and the life He has given us so that we can bring life to others.

2 Peter 3:17-18 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, be on your guard so that you are not carried away by the error of unprincipled men and fall from your own steadfastness,

[SUP]18 [/SUP] but grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
 
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