Losing Salvation

[KenAllan]

IF we can lose our Salvation by sinning, then does this mean we need to be Re-baptized every time we lose our Salvation?

Notice i said IF.

 

[WarriorForChrist]

IF we can lose our Salvation by sinning, then does this mean we need to be Re-baptized every time we lose our Salvation?

Notice i said IF.

Can you provide scripture that says you can lose your salvation by sinning?

 

[oldhermit]

IF we can lose our Salvation by sinning, then does this mean we need to be Re-baptized every time we lose our Salvation?

Notice i said IF.

LOL. I think you do not understand either the concept of baptism or the nature of apostasy.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Can you provide scripture that says you can lose your salvation by sinning?

​“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Matthew 7:21

 

[Persuaded]

If I lose my salvation, it will be because my Savior is not strong enough to keep me and lied to me.
When He said eternal, I placed my total trust in Him, not in me.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

LOL. I think you do not understand either the concept of baptism or the nature of apostasy.

Or the concept of blood covenant.

 

[nowyouseem033]

*sigh* you cannot lose your salvation.. if you can you would have lost it many times. Its God who keeps you until the very end not your faithfulness but Gods faithfulness

 

[PurerInHeart]

No, this is like the prodigal son returning to the father before he dies.

 

[PurerInHeart]

*sigh* you cannot lose your salvation.. if you can you would have lost it many times. Its God who keeps you until the very end not your faithfulness but Gods faithfulness

Then why does the bible say "...IF YOU remain faithful onto death."?

 

[PurerInHeart]

If I lose my salvation, it will be because my Savior is not strong enough to keep me and lied to me.
When He said eternal, I placed my total trust in Him, not in me.

"Not everyone who says to Me 'Lord, Lord! Will enter."

 

[Persuaded]

Then why does the bible say "...IF YOU remain faithful onto death."?

So your salvation is based on YOU remaining faithful?
My is based on Jesus.

 

[nowyouseem033]

because the person who IS TRULY SAVED will continue and persevere until the end.

Why?? hmm because God through his spirit continues to gove you the needed strength to be able to perservere.

It is God who begins a good work and God who is faithful to complete it.

 

[PurerInHeart]

So your salvation is based on YOU remaining faithful?
My is based on Jesus.

Grace is the gift of God, BUT He only gives that gift to those who obey Him.

 

[WarriorForChrist]

​“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Matthew 7:21

This doesn't mean they were saved in the first place.

 

[John146]

​“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Matthew 7:21

Great verse concerning the kingdom of heaven, but that verse is about the literal kingdom of Christ on earth, but the believer today is in the kingdom of God where we are sealed by the Holy Spirit. The KOH is the physical aspect of the kingdom promised to God's physical people Israel, and the Kingdom of God is the spiritual aspect of the kingdom in which the believer lives after the resurrection. Since the nation of Israel rejected their Messiah, the KOH has been postponed till the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.

 

[roaringkitten]

LOL. I think you do not understand either the concept of baptism or the nature of apostasy.

You teach sins are washed in the waters of baptism. That is damnable heresy!

 

[nowyouseem033]

LOL.. you quoted a scripture which says "Lord, Lord did we not cast out devils in your name, etc"

but you missed out what jesus reply was. "depart from me you workers of lawlessness, for I NEVER KNEW YOU"

notice Jesus didn't say I once knew you.. as if somehow that had salvation then lost it... No

Jesus says I NEVER KNEW YOU.. meaning they never had a relationship with God at ALL there whole lives

 

[PurerInHeart]

because the person who IS TRULY SAVED will continue and persevere until the end.

Why?? hmm because God through his spirit continues to gove you the needed strength to be able to perservere.

It is God who begins a good work and God who is faithful to complete it.

Thats not what the bible says. It says there are those who have tasted and known that God is good. They understood truth, but left that truth, and that they cannot come back- they WERE saved and lost their salvation.

 

[WarriorForChrist]

So the other question would be is someone truly saved or is it a false conversion.

 

[nowyouseem033]

lol treating salvation as if you can just hop in and out anytime you want.. gimme a break.