Losing Salvation
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So water baptism would save demons that believe?
Saved demons?
New American Standard Bible
And He said to them, "Go!" And they came out and went into the swine, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the sea and perished in the waters.
Saved demons?
New American Standard Bible
And He said to them, "Go!" And they came out and went into the swine, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the sea and perished in the waters.
Please answer the questions or allow HRFTD to answer because what you have given is a repeat of what is already said and does not really address the questions at all. For instance, I already gave the Scripture you did about demons. It says nothing about demons believing Jesus died for mankind's sins and rose from the dead. Also, saying baptism saves says nothing about water. Your answers are deceptive, and do not really address the pertinent issues.
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So water baptism would save demons that believe?
Saved demons?
New American Standard Bible
And He said to them, "Go!" And they came out and went into the swine, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the sea and perished in the waters.
Saved demons?
New American Standard Bible
And He said to them, "Go!" And they came out and went into the swine, and the whole herd rushed down the steep bank into the sea and perished in the waters.
The answer is not self evident, it is non existent. You have just been caught red handed making something up and pretending it is Scripture.
So the apostles were unGodly when they were baptized by fire? Interesting. Baptism by the Holy Spirit of God is by fire, attested to in all four gospels by John the Baptist. It is the baptism that saves.
So the apostles were unGodly when they were baptized by fire? Interesting. Baptism by the Holy Spirit of God is by fire, attested to in all four gospels by John the Baptist. It is the baptism that saves.
The religion of lawless grace sayeth: There are no requirements. Ye are eternal spirit beings. Ye are gods.
Ignore him. He is just spreading his constant false accusations as usual. We are just letting him spew off and ignoring his continued attempts to "bait" people. We are taking the high road concerning him and we keep praying for him. The Lord will be faithful to him as He is to all of us...
All is well! We trust the Holy Spirit in people to reveal the beauty of Jesus to people and the wonder of living by faith in His grace and all that He has done for us.
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My answers were scriptures and scriptures only- how can you say they are deceptive and mention nothing about water? It says the words 'baptism', 'water', and 'saves'. It even gives an example showing that it means water- it says not by removing dirt from the flesh, but by giving us a clean conscience towards God. Being born of water and the Spirit is the same thing- baptism. Peter says be baptized and you will receive the Holy Spirit.
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what in the world are you reading? We are born physically alive but spiritually dead until we accept Jesus.
God didn't make earth because He knew we would sin, that's why Jesus sacrifice was necessary, to redeem both us and the world.
The earth was/is a dwelling place for us AND God. (remember He walked with Adam and Eve in the coolness of evening)
God didn't make earth because He knew we would sin, that's why Jesus sacrifice was necessary, to redeem both us and the world.
The earth was/is a dwelling place for us AND God. (remember He walked with Adam and Eve in the coolness of evening)
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Being born again (baptism) means becoming spiritually alive. Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, unless eat of the flesh of the Son of man and drink His blood you have no life in you." And He said, "Let the dead bury the dead." He meant let the spiritually dead bury the physically dead.
The bible says Heaven is God's dwelling place, and that earth is His footstool. The earth is temporary, He will get rid of all physicality.
The bible says Heaven is God's dwelling place, and that earth is His footstool. The earth is temporary, He will get rid of all physicality.
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This site allows people to teach damnable heresy unabated. The BDF has turned into an incessant bickering match between believers of grace and enemies of the cross who trample the blood of Christ. Baptismal regeneration is a lie straight from hell, and for CC to continue to allow this nonsense on the forum is to disobey Jude 1:3. To allow people to run around and cause discord and call believers of grace gnostic and lawless and all the names the devil has invented is despicable.
I can no longer be a part of this.
Lord bless and good bye.
I can no longer be a part of this.
Lord bless and good bye.
Good points, but remember, there is the law of Christ. Not conforming to it is lawlessness.
I will raise up to them a prophet of their brethren, like thee; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them as I shall command him. And whatever man shall not hearken to whatsoever words that prophet shall speak in my name, I will take vengeance on him. Deuteronomy 18:18-19
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