Some accusations were laid against a brother. One of those was proven in the OP to be false. I bear witness that others are false as well. It is iniquity and sin to excuse the accusers and condemn the accused.
The Holy Spirit convicts of sin
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Some accusations were laid against a brother. One of those was proven in the OP to be false. I bear witness that others are false as well. It is iniquity and sin to excuse the accusers and condemn the accused.
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Ariel82
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I agree with you. It has been like pulling teeth. I also grow and learn as we go.
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eternally-gratefull
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Sounds like you
It might help if you would actually show us what we believe, then say you can;t agree, for these reasons.
But you can;t do that, You say, I do not believe this (which we do not believe it either) then when we try to tell you, Hey peter, we do not believe this either. You get mad,,
can you blame people for getting upset because others are misrepresenting them? You sure get mad when you claim people misrepresent you.. So is that not being hypocritical?
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eternally-gratefull
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has the op yet admitted his whole problem was based on a misunderstanding or different interpretation of a word?
When will the OP appoligize, and say he made a mistake?
do you ever find it odd how other people always appologize and admit when they make mistakes. But certain people (say like you and others) never admit to making a mistake.. but seem to continue you all out war against those who believe different than you do.
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eternally-gratefull
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Can you admit trying to get you to understand what we really believe has been like "trying to pull teeth" also.. and can we try to start over??
because sadly, sometimes thats what it takes to reconcile things,, and bring them back together, We both have to admit when we have been wrong.
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Ariel82
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You just have to be aware of others wounds...have you done any reading on abused children?
In a sense we have all suffered spiritual abuse from Satan. He is a child molester.
Each child has a different trigger that Satan has trained us to associate with pain and abuse. For some its the word convict and condemn and judge.
Triggers work like the bell for food does for a dog...eventually you ring the bell and the dog starts salivating even without food present.
I know someone who was raped in a place filled with birds and when she hears birds in cages, she brings and flashes back to being raped.
Eventually God will heal those triggers and we won't cringe and flashback, but remember that God loves us and that Satan is wrong.
Satan is crafty, he uses triggers to keep the body of Christ divided so that when someone innocently says a word or does something...the other person assumes they are in league with Satan.
But in truth it's from spiritual abuse.
However when the other person yells and gets angry, it causes more pain...like poking at a bandaid to see if that person is really hurt and bleeding.
Thankyou for this. These accusation are a creations over nothing, just opinions and observations of how people think about faith.
We have brought them into the light and shown them for what they really are.
If one has involvement with mentally ill people, the smallest of things become the most important, and whoever is the
victim is the most evil and worthy of the most heinous punishments.
We have won some great victories. The Holy Spirit convicts of sin, and ones conscience helps you know the right path.
If the Holy Spirit convicts of sin in the believers life, then sin matters and also being conscious of it and dealing with it.
So Amen, progress.
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Ariel82
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No that won't help.
What would help is if you both just stated what you believed and NOT try and explain what the other person believed and just listened to see if you agree or disagree.
Asking questions to clarify points that might be misunderstood.
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Ariel82
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My husband just texted me a task and hopefully my sister in law calls soon so we can go to,the zoo..sigh, I hate waiting.
This like a rapist blaming the victim for falsely accusing him of raping her because his definition of rape differs from hers.
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eternally-gratefull
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been there done that sis, Over and over and over,, there comes a point when WE have to say enough is enough (this is your go at it, so why I am prying you finally can break through)
In fact, at one point, Almost a whole thread was spent trying to explain to him, this is what you think I believe this is what I really believe.I went with a point by point response to quite a few posts Peter had made, saying I believe these things.. I tried to say, No peter, I do not believe this, Nor do other people believe these things, He took my attempted correction of his words as an attack, and has since been on me every time I try to say one word to him.
It does not work with some people. I will continue to pray you can get through to him,, But enough is enough. Some people you will just not get ahold of.
HRFTD has been trying to get people to admit they are in error because this op proves us wrong.
When is peter and himself ever going to admit they have lied against our belief system, and it has been proven to them over and over.
its the same old same old tactic, Do as I say, Not as I do.
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eternally-gratefull
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eternally-gratefull
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No, it is not the same,
because no one raped peter (see the nonsense you try to spew, making it worse than it really is)
You always make things sound worse than they really are.
When is peter ever going to apologize to me for all the lies he has said about my belief, and to all the others he has slandered over th epast few months?
WHich I and so many others have PROVED OVER AND OVER, are lies?
He demands an appology, buit is to proud to give any himself.
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Ariel82
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In this case the OP would be someone who offer to buy the rape victim a pet bird. He didn't rape her, but didn't realize that birds remind her of being raped.
Eventually he might apologize for offering to give her the bird.
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Ariel82
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Was doing laundry and realized I needed to clarify a point...
The world might call people "victims of child abuse" but we are not victims.
We are survivors and overcomers because in Christ we are made new. To label oneself a victim allows the abusers too much power and control of our minds and lives.
No one on here is Satan. We war against spiritual strongholds and evil.
Allow God to show you His truth. You are His beloved children, don't fight amongst yourselves.
The world might call people "victims of child abuse" but we are not victims.
We are survivors and overcomers because in Christ we are made new. To label oneself a victim allows the abusers too much power and control of our minds and lives.
No one on here is Satan. We war against spiritual strongholds and evil.
Allow God to show you His truth. You are His beloved children, don't fight amongst yourselves.
No, that's not what happened at all. Review the history. Peter was accused of falsely saying that hyper grace teaches that the holy spirit does not convict believers of their sins. He provided a quote from a popular hyper grace teacher that proved that accusation to be false. Now the accuser wants to accuse Peter of wrongdoing because he didn't embrace hyper grace's view on the matter.
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Ariel82
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If I wasn't five years old, I would put you in time out.
But everyone laughs at a five year old who does such things.
Why do adopt such a condescending tone? Is it to avoid having to confront the truth of what I said and admit that you are wrong?