Questions about flirting from someone who doesn't get why flirt

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My friend had his heart ripped out by a vindictive woman imo, and she publicly accused him of flirting, although he's a really decent guy and only likes to kid harmlessly,

he even got concerned because a friend told him it might not be a good thing to do, even just talking online, with one woman who was married.
He's a guy who doesn't want anything but the best for others, and the couple and him, they had a friendship and an understanding, so it was all good, and besides he doesn't even really flirt to 'get results', he just jokes around.

But he found out the hard way that when some women want vengeance or to do harm, they will use the 'lewdness' accusation and drag even a good person through the public mud, and that's the end of that, because most people just believe whatever we say, and the guy is called guilty, and out the door he's kicked.

What's more is his numerous attempts to contact this site, and they never even had the human decency, let alone, CHRISTIAN, to reply in any way, just totally ignore him, like she's done on more than one occasion and then just goes on the happy merry way on this site, maybe trolling for the next victim somewher down the line, i dont know, while my friend is really hurt, and missing alot of good people he was getting to know here lately. And Including her too.

Which makes no sense to me, I love him but I think he's nuts. I think she's nuts too, they're probably meant for each other, but I actually came here to see if I could help, (i'm not too impressed being here) people should treat each other a lot better than they do, specially christians, and I want everyone to be happy, but i can't barely bring myself to talk to the woman, i'm so angry over what happened, and the phony stuff by some people that are officials on this site do.

I was warned about it, and now i know first hand, and i guess they ban me next. It's funny, because i see flirting and things said that just goes winked at. I guess you have to be in with certain people, otherwise you're treated like you've commited the unpardonable sin.

I just don't like this spiteful brand of christianity., but i know, definitely, there are some good people here too and i don't mean to make it all seem bad. But i know someone that deserves much better, while theres some on here that (i would be losing any hope of being christian if i said what i really think of them).

And yes, depleted, you know who i mean too and you and him were/are friends and he misses you too and hopes you will contact him.
He prays for you, and theres others here too he hopes he hasnt lost as friends. I guess it wont be long and I'll be gone too. Such is the world of christian love one another?

Sorry to disrupt, but for what it's worth imo, flirting can be fun, should be harmless, can even lead to good things, but there are some people that are very prudish and get easily offended, (but only sometimes, so i think it's phony), and some people will twist it into something ugly and use it against others when they're out to cause them harm, so these days its probably best to avoid.

And thats a shame imo when a little flirty fun is no longer ok. Well, it is, i'm sure the same ones who cry foul do it too, they just dont think when they do its so bad.

(To be clear and fair, that situation had other factors i hope they resolve), but this thread is a good way to discuss how its not always the flirting thats so harmful or 'un-christian', but what someone chooses to do with it, that can be the 'un-christian', harmful thing.

Please call or write my friend?
 
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Ariel82

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I love the kiss-and-glare thingy. It works usually before I catch on, too. Funny, neither one of us can tell if someone is flirting with us, until it's obvious, but we can tell when someone is flirting with the spouse.

In our last church a couple of women told me how gorgeous hubby was, and they were kind of fearful if they could become friends with him. My radar went off, but I still told the truth. "I'm not worried, because he already chose me and I chose him. But as for friendship? I'm not his keeper. He'll be friends with you if he wants."

Neither one even tried to be friends with him, but I honestly don't know why they didn't.
Lol maybe they tried and he told the he wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole?

That's a line my hubby uses when a girl doesn't seem to get it.

We haven't had any issues in a while...it was more a college thing.
 
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Ariel82

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I always figured the guys aren't really attracted to,me, but Christ light shining through me. So we just talk about life, love and God and it's normally fine unless they are really creepy or grabby feely.
 
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JustWhoIAm

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Perhaps I a just too smart.. I get really vicious when I feel that guy aint clear. I am very very watchful especially as Ive had sexual abuse happen when I was smaller (by a family member). Your safe if you just talk though ya not gonna like my answers.. If you touch me you will at least have bruises lol No is no and theres no maybe for me.
If someone has actural interest in me they treat me like a lady and not a object to show off or just dump and do like someone else. Im not a coin for anyone to pick up. I rather be home and cuddle with my cat. (I hope Im not too harsh lol)
Sorry. Abuse happens and you're not alone. I've been there, and I have some very serious trust issues as a result, which is probably one reason why I tend to stress clarity, stability and emotional bonding over things that are carnal.
 
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[I removed the contents in case this is exactly what I fear it sounds like.]
Ummm, that sounded more like an accusation than anything about flirting and you sound angry.

I do the obvious thing if a guy contacts me online. If I don't know him, I either walk away or put him on ignore. If I do know him, I tell hubby about him, just to make sure it's okay with him. If it's okay with him, I don't need permission from anyone else. I can guarantee hubby knows what's going on though, because I tell him.

This really was about flirting. I was watching some people flirting at the nursing home today and was wondering how that worked. (Who were they in relationship to one another, and do they really plan it to go beyond a mere flirt? And if there is going to be a relationship, how does that work if they guy is stuck in a nursing home? That kind of thing.) If you're angry with someone, take it up with that person. Otherwise, this becomes inappropriate fast. I think it just did!
 
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Lol maybe they tried and he told the he wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole?

That's a line my hubby uses when a girl doesn't seem to get it.

We haven't had any issues in a while...it was more a college thing.
Nah, if that happened, he'd tell me...and yes, would use the same line. lol
 
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Ummm, that sounded more like an accusation than anything about flirting and you sound angry.

I do the obvious thing if a guy contacts me online. If I don't know him, I either walk away or put him on ignore. If I do know him, I tell hubby about him, just to make sure it's okay with him. If it's okay with him, I don't need permission from anyone else. I can guarantee hubby knows what's going on though, because I tell him.

This really was about flirting. I was watching some people flirting at the nursing home today and was wondering how that worked. (Who were they in relationship to one another, and do they really plan it to go beyond a mere flirt? And if there is going to be a relationship, how does that work if they guy is stuck in a nursing home? That kind of thing.) If you're angry with someone, take it up with that person. Otherwise, this becomes inappropriate fast. I think it just did!
I apologize, lynn, i was just trying to help out a friend of both of ours, and he has me trying to help, but i dont know what to do exactly, but I've read lots here and yous are friends, but i know what goes on. Its a shame.
But no harm intended to you i hope you know, and you and john are prayed for much. Btw, flirting? I still vote yes, lol, but obviously it can cause harm if others want it too. God knows our hearts.
 
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kenthomas27

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flirting to some extent is OK I guess, how else does one start a relationship
sadly though, in my experience people go from "you're nice" to "wanna come home with me?" in about ten minutes.....

maybe it's just that everyone has a different definition of flirting?

I applaud their patience. :eek:








see now - THAT was flirting.....
 

blue_ladybug

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My friend had his heart ripped out by a vindictive woman imo, and she publicly accused him of flirting, although he's a really decent guy and only likes to kid harmlessly,

he even got concerned because a friend told him it might not be a good thing to do, even just talking online, with one woman who was married.
He's a guy who doesn't want anything but the best for others, and the couple and him, they had a friendship and an understanding, so it was all good, and besides he doesn't even really flirt to 'get results', he just jokes around.

But he found out the hard way that when some women want vengeance or to do harm, they will use the 'lewdness' accusation and drag even a good person through the public mud, and that's the end of that, because most people just believe whatever we say, and the guy is called guilty, and out the door he's kicked.

What's more is his numerous attempts to contact this site, and they never even had the human decency, let alone, CHRISTIAN, to reply in any way, just totally ignore him, like she's done on more than one occasion and then just goes on the happy merry way on this site, maybe trolling for the next victim somewher down the line, i dont know, while my friend is really hurt, and missing alot of good people he was getting to know here lately. And Including her too.

Which makes no sense to me, I love him but I think he's nuts. I think she's nuts too, they're probably meant for each other, but I actually came here to see if I could help, (i'm not too impressed being here) people should treat each other a lot better than they do, specially christians, and I want everyone to be happy, but i can't barely bring myself to talk to the woman, i'm so angry over what happened, and the phony stuff by some people that are officials on this site do.

I was warned about it, and now i know first hand, and i guess they ban me next. It's funny, because i see flirting and things said that just goes winked at. I guess you have to be in with certain people, otherwise you're treated like you've commited the unpardonable sin.

I just don't like this spiteful brand of christianity., but i know, definitely, there are some good people here too and i don't mean to make it all seem bad. But i know someone that deserves much better, while theres some on here that (i would be losing any hope of being christian if i said what i really think of them).

And yes, depleted, you know who i mean too and you and him were/are friends and he misses you too and hopes you will contact him.
He prays for you, and theres others here too he hopes he hasnt lost as friends. I guess it wont be long and I'll be gone too. Such is the world of christian love one another?

Sorry to disrupt, but for what it's worth imo, flirting can be fun, should be harmless, can even lead to good things, but there are some people that are very prudish and get easily offended, (but only sometimes, so i think it's phony), and some people will twist it into something ugly and use it against others when they're out to cause them harm, so these days its probably best to avoid.

And thats a shame imo when a little flirty fun is no longer ok. Well, it is, i'm sure the same ones who cry foul do it too, they just dont think when they do its so bad.

(To be clear and fair, that situation had other factors i hope they resolve), but this thread is a good way to discuss how its not always the flirting thats so harmful or 'un-christian', but what someone chooses to do with it, that can be the 'un-christian', harmful thing.

Please call or write my friend?

Your friend has had several chances to contact people here. Since he was originally banned several months ago, he's returned under at least 3 other nicks.. And the story you give about what happened to him from this woman, is pretty much the same thing she told me except that HE hurt HER by acting all jealous and obsessive towards her.. Goes to show you every story has two sides. When he was here under his original nick, he was very rude and inappropriate to several of the women, and even some of the men. He needs to take his hurt to God, and stop returning to a site where he keeps getting banned. He needs more help than any of us can give him.
 
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That's just not true, blueladybug, you dont know it all. Or him at all. Not in the least.
 

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Sorry. Abuse happens and you're not alone. I've been there, and I have some very serious trust issues as a result, which is probably one reason why I tend to stress clarity, stability and emotional bonding over things that are carnal.
I got better with the trusting through people in church. I know the feel. I have a really hard time showing emotions to someone all in all because I just dont wanna get hurt. So often I just shut off my emotions with the hope it wont get to me. Though i the end im sensitive beyond
 

blue_ladybug

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That's just not true, blueladybug, you dont know it all. Or him at all. Not in the least.

You just joined yesterday, and I can dig up several of his posts where he was rude and inappropriate to people.. And I had several encounters on here with him, so yes, I DO know him a little bit. I also know the woman's side of it, and what she told me mirrors what HE told YOU.. except that it was him who hurt her. Like I said, there's two sides to the story.
 
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That's just not true, blueladybug, you dont know it all. Or him at all. Not in the least.
And he did try, MANY times, and got ignored and the cold shoulder treatment, theres so much coldhearted nastyness totally unchristian attitudes its pathetic.

Ignoring, reporting, banning with no recourse, no allowance for hearing, just flat out excommunication. It stinks to high heaven. Whats a brother supposed to do. You have no idea how HE was treated, it goes well beyond this site, but i knew trying to help him and be mediator was a mistake, because the ones that post here most often have an agenda, and christian hospitality and brotherly love is low on the list.

People just keep getting trampled on mostly by some pretty nasty itches. No offense to some very decent people here. I mean that to them sincerely.

But Ive had plenty of time to read and evaluate.
You dont know the guys heart like i do.
The tactics on this site by some are not about being christian at all.
Please mind your own business and stay out of it.
If it was something with you and your friend, I wouldn't put my nose in it and take sides with people i dont even know, so please dont you do it to us.


I DO APOLOGIZE LYNN, THIS WASNT INTENDED.
 
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flirting to some extent is OK I guess, how else does one start a relationship
sadly though, in my experience people go from "you're nice" to "wanna come home with me?" in about ten minutes.....

maybe it's just that everyone has a different definition of flirting?
Bring your tooth brush with you.
The latest playa I met I didn't even know he was flirting, he was so young, I thought we were just having a nice conversation until some real disgusting words came out and I said: hey have to catch my bus! Bye!
In general Dutch people don't flirt. If one flirts it's almost always a pervert or something and they can't flirt normal. Jokingly flirting without filthy comments is nice.
What I don't understand is why women complain about it. Just be clear if you don't appreciate it and it's over immediately. Some women just keep being nice and being 'just friends' and then they blame someone that he flirts. That's just your own fault. I have done that too. You learn from it to not be so naive.
 

blue_ladybug

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Anyhoo, getting back to the original OP, the only flirting I've had guys do to me, was lines like "nice pants, can I talk you out of them".. :/ lol.. I'm like, ummmmm that's a nope.. lol
 
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My friend had his heart ripped out by a vindictive woman imo, and she publicly accused him of flirting, although he's a really decent guy and only likes to kid harmlessly,

he even got concerned because a friend told him it might not be a good thing to do, even just talking online, with one woman who was married.
He's a guy who doesn't want anything but the best for others, and the couple and him, they had a friendship and an understanding, so it was all good, and besides he doesn't even really flirt to 'get results', he just jokes around.

But he found out the hard way that when some women want vengeance or to do harm, they will use the 'lewdness' accusation and drag even a good person through the public mud, and that's the end of that, because most people just believe whatever we say, and the guy is called guilty, and out the door he's kicked.

What's more is his numerous attempts to contact this site, and they never even had the human decency, let alone, CHRISTIAN, to reply in any way, just totally ignore him, like she's done on more than one occasion and then just goes on the happy merry way on this site, maybe trolling for the next victim somewher down the line, i dont know, while my friend is really hurt, and missing alot of good people he was getting to know here lately. And Including her too.

Which makes no sense to me, I love him but I think he's nuts. I think she's nuts too, they're probably meant for each other, but I actually came here to see if I could help, (i'm not too impressed being here) people should treat each other a lot better than they do, specially christians, and I want everyone to be happy, but i can't barely bring myself to talk to the woman, i'm so angry over what happened, and the phony stuff by some people that are officials on this site do.

I was warned about it, and now i know first hand, and i guess they ban me next. It's funny, because i see flirting and things said that just goes winked at. I guess you have to be in with certain people, otherwise you're treated like you've commited the unpardonable sin.

I just don't like this spiteful brand of christianity., but i know, definitely, there are some good people here too and i don't mean to make it all seem bad. But i know someone that deserves much better, while theres some on here that (i would be losing any hope of being christian if i said what i really think of them).

And yes, depleted, you know who i mean too and you and him were/are friends and he misses you too and hopes you will contact him.
He prays for you, and theres others here too he hopes he hasnt lost as friends. I guess it wont be long and I'll be gone too. Such is the world of christian love one another?

Sorry to disrupt, but for what it's worth imo, flirting can be fun, should be harmless, can even lead to good things, but there are some people that are very prudish and get easily offended, (but only sometimes, so i think it's phony), and some people will twist it into something ugly and use it against others when they're out to cause them harm, so these days its probably best to avoid.

And thats a shame imo when a little flirty fun is no longer ok. Well, it is, i'm sure the same ones who cry foul do it too, they just dont think when they do its so bad.

(To be clear and fair, that situation had other factors i hope they resolve), but this thread is a good way to discuss how its not always the flirting thats so harmful or 'un-christian', but what someone chooses to do with it, that can be the 'un-christian', harmful thing.

Please call or write my friend?
this a nice story told in the third person. My biggest issue with it is the dishonesty in that alone.
 
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this a nice story told in the third person. My biggest issue with it is the dishonesty in that alone.
Thats interesting. He was a friend to you, too. Would you like to talk to him?
 

melita916

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ah so others noticed it, too.