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If you heed the doctrine of the Pre-trib rapture or Dispensationalism, then you are... heeding theories which Darby introduced, especially the theory of Dispensationalism. The pre-trib rapture, which Darby originally said would be a secret rapture, he actually got from the Edward Irving movement in 1830s Great Britain.
Many today believe on the pre-trib rapture theory because it has become a popular belief that took hold when those like Cyrus Scofield compiled his study Bible and it was published in the Americas in the early 1900s.
Many preachers today are simply abiding by status quo, and teach it because of the denomination's organization control of their retirement pension. Jesus warned us about the hireling (John 10). Many of God's people are deceived by Darby's pre-trib doctrine as it cannot be found written in God's Word, but is only loosely based on assumptions of certain Scriptures.
And since our Lord Jesus and His Apostles showed in His Word that the Antichrist/pseudo-Christ is to come first before our gathering, then the pre-trib doctrine is set to prepare deceived believers to follow after the first supernatural messiah that comes first, and that is to be the Antichrist according to Scripture (Matt.24:23-26; 2 Thess.2:1-8).
Many today believe on the pre-trib rapture theory because it has become a popular belief that took hold when those like Cyrus Scofield compiled his study Bible and it was published in the Americas in the early 1900s.
Many preachers today are simply abiding by status quo, and teach it because of the denomination's organization control of their retirement pension. Jesus warned us about the hireling (John 10). Many of God's people are deceived by Darby's pre-trib doctrine as it cannot be found written in God's Word, but is only loosely based on assumptions of certain Scriptures.
And since our Lord Jesus and His Apostles showed in His Word that the Antichrist/pseudo-Christ is to come first before our gathering, then the pre-trib doctrine is set to prepare deceived believers to follow after the first supernatural messiah that comes first, and that is to be the Antichrist according to Scripture (Matt.24:23-26; 2 Thess.2:1-8).
Actually God created us to be vegetarians. We only started eating meat after the fall. In Mark 7 Jesus declared all foods clean, including that pork and seafood (shrimp - yum!). That is because after His resurrection, what used to be external and affecting us from the outside (basically the law) became internal and flowing from us to the outside (the Spirit). So we went from don't eat unclean pork to don't participate in unclean lusts.
How deceived you are...
In Mark 7, Jesus was speaking of how the Pharisees refuse to eat unless they've washed their hands first. Nothing about eating unclean meats there.
In the Mark 7 verses He gave comparing what goes into the mouth vs. what comes out of the mouth, He was speaking that in the spiritual sense, i.e., what comes out of man's mouth is from the heart, evil thoughts, etc., is what can defile the man (one's soul actually, and not our flesh). He was NOT teaching it's now healthy to eat unclean meats.
In the NT, Apostle Paul didn't say we cannot eat unhealthy foods. And he pointed to meats God created to be received with thanksgiving, which of course means God's list of clean meats (1 Tim.4:3). This is also why God told Noah to take an extra number of clean animals aboard the ark.
Because many brethren listen to uneducated country preachers on these things, they follow an unhealthy lifestyle, eating lots of unhealthy foods including sugar. No wonder so many are coming down with cancers and heart disease.
In Mark 7, Jesus was speaking of how the Pharisees refuse to eat unless they've washed their hands first. Nothing about eating unclean meats there.
In the Mark 7 verses He gave comparing what goes into the mouth vs. what comes out of the mouth, He was speaking that in the spiritual sense, i.e., what comes out of man's mouth is from the heart, evil thoughts, etc., is what can defile the man (one's soul actually, and not our flesh). He was NOT teaching it's now healthy to eat unclean meats.
In the NT, Apostle Paul didn't say we cannot eat unhealthy foods. And he pointed to meats God created to be received with thanksgiving, which of course means God's list of clean meats (1 Tim.4:3). This is also why God told Noah to take an extra number of clean animals aboard the ark.
Because many brethren listen to uneducated country preachers on these things, they follow an unhealthy lifestyle, eating lots of unhealthy foods including sugar. No wonder so many are coming down with cancers and heart disease.
lol.. Thanks, made me laugh,, Sad though is it seems to be true with some people
If the doctrine you hold to had any substance to it you'd be able to defend it in God's Word instead, something which you have not done, and cannot do, because it is not written in God's Word in the first place.
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Dude get off it.
I believe your doctrine is from men.. But that does not mean anything. and would just be a strawman.
Dispensationalism is a MEANS of interpreting the word. that's it nothing else..
It is not pre-trip. It is not darbyism, it is a means of interpretation.
If you say otherwise, That's on you. But that would be your opinion. and that's all..
I believe your doctrine is from men.. But that does not mean anything. and would just be a strawman.
Dispensationalism is a MEANS of interpreting the word. that's it nothing else..
It is not pre-trip. It is not darbyism, it is a means of interpretation.
If you say otherwise, That's on you. But that would be your opinion. and that's all..
Well yes, Dispensationalism most definitely IS... linked to Darby's Pre-trib Rapture doctrine. Darby is the author of the doctrine of Dispensationalism. You cannot revise that history, it's fact.
And you're right it is "a means of interpretation", because it's designed to support the Pre-trib rapture theory. That's what Darby's Dispensational theme for the tribulation includes, a pre-trib rapture by Jesus with Israel left behind, which is not Biblical.
And you're right it is "a means of interpretation", because it's designed to support the Pre-trib rapture theory. That's what Darby's Dispensational theme for the tribulation includes, a pre-trib rapture by Jesus with Israel left behind, which is not Biblical.
Mark 7
1Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem. 2And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault. 3For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders. 4And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables. 5Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
6He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. 10For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: 11But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. 12And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; 13Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
14And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand: 15There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man. 16If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
17And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable. 18And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; 19Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? 20And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
Well, the conversation started with washing hands but Jesus then expanded and extrapolated on that. The Pharisees stated that eating with unwashed hands made them unclean, Jesus answered that nothing you put into your body makes you unclean. It is solely what comes out of a man that now makes him unclean.
Matthew 15
10And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand: 11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
12Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? 13But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. 14Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
15Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable. 16And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding? 17Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? 18But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. 19For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: 20These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.
Pretty much says the same thing.
Now, when God talks about unclean He's talking about spiritual things. Yes there are lots of things we eat that are unhealthy for us and should be avoided. But that is a physical thing not a spiritual one.
Now, as for your personal attack, sometimes I think people are deceived by not taking in the big picture. The scriptures here present the big picture. Narrow minded people won't understand that.
Can we continue on now without the personal attacks?
1Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem. 2And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault. 3For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders. 4And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables. 5Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
6He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
7Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. 10For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: 11But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. 12And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; 13Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
14And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand: 15There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man. 16If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
17And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable. 18And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; 19Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? 20And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
Well, the conversation started with washing hands but Jesus then expanded and extrapolated on that. The Pharisees stated that eating with unwashed hands made them unclean, Jesus answered that nothing you put into your body makes you unclean. It is solely what comes out of a man that now makes him unclean.
Matthew 15
10And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand: 11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
12Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? 13But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. 14Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
15Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable. 16And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding? 17Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? 18But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. 19For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: 20These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.
Pretty much says the same thing.
Now, when God talks about unclean He's talking about spiritual things. Yes there are lots of things we eat that are unhealthy for us and should be avoided. But that is a physical thing not a spiritual one.
Now, as for your personal attack, sometimes I think people are deceived by not taking in the big picture. The scriptures here present the big picture. Narrow minded people won't understand that.
Can we continue on now without the personal attacks?
Jesus was not against washing your hands before you eat. Jesus said of the Pharisees that they made a great dramatic production out of washing their hands. They held them above their head to dry so that which might defile them would run away from their hands. It was their false piety that Jesus was rebuking.
Not much has changed as religious people today make much pretense about what to do and what to avoid to impress God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Not much has changed as religious people today make much pretense about what to do and what to avoid to impress God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Your obsession with Darby came about in 2015 when you started following Steve Anderson.
He taught you mentored you and brainwashed you.
I know he didn't,but that assertion suits you since you lie nonstop about your Darby mess.
Stop assuming and crack a bible please.
Those lies you tell got dust on em an inch thick.
He taught you mentored you and brainwashed you.
I know he didn't,but that assertion suits you since you lie nonstop about your Darby mess.
Stop assuming and crack a bible please.
Those lies you tell got dust on em an inch thick.