This is just criminal. Unjust. Sinful. I am tired of hearing about cops killing...

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JosephsDreams

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...innocent people for no apparent reason.

I know the job isn't easy. I have heard about all the valid reasons why things can happen.
But there are just way to many incidents of cops killing civilians for no reason. It can not be justified.
Or maybe there is a reason. Maybe their macho egos are out of control. Maybe to many of them are control freaks,
Maybe the system is stacked in their favor.
This is in the age of v]everyone carrying video cameras. We are seeing only the tip of the ice berg. I can only imagine how many helpless, innocent citizens have been killed through the years.
When a cop is killed, we hear about how he had a heart to serve, what a family man he was, and rightly so.
But what about all the victims? The slime police department immediately go on the attack to disparage the victims character, lie, and stonewall. They lawyer up. But when a civilian does that, they are disdainful.
I have rarely heard of any them owning up to what they did. But they ask citizens to come forward and surrender for their crimes. I have never heard of a police officer stepping forward to speak the truth about a unlawful act their partner has committed, but they ask us to inform them if we know of someone doing something wrong, even a family member who may be doing something illegal.
So the police are generally hypocrites. Besides to may of them being verbally and physically abusive. Not to mention to many of them are murdering innocents who they are supposed to serve and protect.
For every law enforcement officer killed, I bet they have murdered in cold blood, probably 10 to 20 citizens.
I am not condoning the words of the family in Brooklyn (another very different incident that occurred earlier this week in which a cop shot a unarmed man to death), but you know what, maybe if a family member of a innocent person who has been killed by police did mete out revenge, it might make other cops think twice about what they are doing.
Because right now it seems as if they just have the attitude of they can do whatever they want without any consequences.
Starting today I am going to begin praying that police officers that shot innocent people have it come back to them. I am going to pray that police that lie to protect their fellow police officers are tormented in their conscience because of their deceitfulness.
If they were real men, they would apologize and own up to what they did. More and more, I am beginning to think way to many cops are moral cowards. Physically tough, but with no morale fiber. I am losing more respect for them as time goes on.
They want to take our guns away. Why, so we can be defenseless against their enforcers?

Woman records horrific scene after boyfriend is fatally shot by police | New York Post[video]

Woman records horrific scene after boyfriend is fatally shot by police | New York Post[/video]
 

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EAST METRO 385789251Aftermath of fatal Falcon Heights officer-involved shooting captured on video

A man identified by relatives as Philando Castile, 32, a St. Paul schools employee, died Wednesday night at Hennepin County Medical Center. The police-involved shooting followed a traffic stop in Falcon Heights.

By Pat Pheifer and Claude Peck Star Tribune
JULY 7, 2016 — 8:06AM

A St. Paul man died Wednesday night after being shot by police in Falcon Heights, the immediate aftermath of which was shown in a video recorded by the man's girlfriend as she sat next to him and which was widely shared on Facebook.
The girlfriend started the live-stream video with the man in the driver’s seat slumped next to her, his white T-shirt soaked with blood on the left side. In the video, taken with her phone, she says they were pulled over at Larpenteur Avenue and Fry Street for a broken taillight.
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Friends at the scene identified the man as Philando Castile, 32, cafeteria supervisor at J.J. Hill Montessori School in St. Paul.
Castile’s cousin said on her Facebook page that he was dead. Castile’s uncle, Clarence Castile, who was at Hennepin County Medical Center with other family members, said Philando died at 9:37 p.m., a few minutes after arriving at the hospital.


The video was posted on a Facebook page belonging to Lavish Reynolds, but it’s not clear if it is the girlfriend’s page or whether she sent the video to someone else to post. Reynolds’ page was not available for a time, but by then copies of the video had been shared many times.



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Gallery: Photos: Traffic stop turns fatal in Falcon Heights



A Facebook spokesperson said the video was temporarily down due to a technical glitch and was restored to the Lavish Reynolds page as soon as Facebook was able to investigate. "We're very sorry that the video was temporarily inaccessible," the spokesperson said via email.
The girlfriend said on the video that the officer “asked him for license and registration. He told him that it was in his wallet, but he had a pistol on him because he’s licensed to carry. The officer said don’t move. As he was putting his hands back up, the officer shot him in the arm four or five times.”
The video shows a uniformed police officer holding a pistol on the couple from outside the car. The officer can be heard to say, “I told him not to reach for it. I told him to get his hand out.”
The girlfriend says in the video that her boyfriend was shot by a Roseville police officer.

St. Anthony police Sgt. Jon Mangseth, who is the interim police chief, told reporters at the scene that the primary officer who initiated the traffic stop and the backup officer who responded were St. Anthony police officers.
Castile was taken to Hennepin County Medical Center in Minneapolis. The woman and a child in the car with him were taken to another police agency and were being interviewed, Mangseth said.
St. Anthony police issued a news release after midnight, confirming that a man was shot by one of its officers about 9 p.m. and had later died. “A handgun was recovered from the scene,” the news release said. It said little else except that the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension will lead the investigation.
Clarence Castile, Philando’s uncle, said his nephew had worked in the J.J. Hill school cafeteria for 12 to 15 years, “cooking for the little kids.” He said his nephew was “a good kid” who grew up in St. Paul and also lived in Minneapolis for a time.
He said Philando’s mother, Valerie Castile, 60, was inside the hospital and had “broken down” over the death of her only son.

He said Philando had left his home about two hours before the shooting occurred. “My nephew was killed by the police” without doing anything wrong, he said.
About 12:35 a.m. Thursday, Valerie Castile and her daughter emerged from the HCMC emergency room to the waiting arms of friends and family members. “They killed my son,” Valerie Castile said, sobbing. “They took a good man, a hard-working man; he worked since he was 18 years old.”

Philando’s sister, who was also crying, said, “They killed my brother. They held a gun on him while he was hurting, and did nothing to help him.”
Philando’s cousin, Antonio Johnson, 31, was also at HCMC. Johnson said Philando graduated with honors from St. Paul Central High School, where he was a straight-A student.

He was “a black individual driving in Falcon Heights who was immediately criminally profiled and he lost his life over it tonight,” Johnson said.
He said Philando was “very nonconfrontational,” “a real upstanding citizen,” and “by the book.”



Angry demonstrators chanted and honked horns as they blocked Summit Ave. in front of the governor's residence in St. Paul early Thursday morning, protesting the shooting of a black man in Falcon Heights by police.


Minnesota court records show only misdemeanors and petty misdemeanors on Philando Castile’s record.
Valerie Castile told CNN Thursday that she had instructed her son to always "comply" if he was ever stopped by law enforcement.

She said her son didn't deserve "to be shot down like this." He was just "black in the wrong place" and was a victim of "a silent war against African American people," she said.

About 2 a.m., Castile's relatives and friends held a prayer circle outside Hennepin County Medical Center. Several family members, including Valerie Castile. then walked to the Hennepin County medical examiner's office in an attempt to see Philando's body. Staffers there would not let them, said Nekima Levy-Pounds, president of the Minneapolis NAACP chapter, who accompanied them.
Valerie Castile told CNN she's angry that officials wouldn't let her identify her son's body and that she will have to wait until after the autopsy to see him.

"The family has a number of concerns about what happened in this case,” Levy-Pounds said. “They do not believe that the shooting was warranted in this case. Philando Castile was an upstanding citizen, according to all the reports that we’ve heard.”

The medical examiner's office will conduct an autopsy later Thursday.
Levy-Pounds said an independent body should be appointed to investigate the shooting, citing skepticism with the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, which would normally conduct such a probe. She expressed similar concerns about the objectivity of a federal investigation but said her organization will ask for one.
“We’re demanding justice; we’re demanding accountability,” Levy-Pounds said. “We’re demanding a change to our laws and policies that allow these types of things to happen. Too often officers are taught to shoot first and ask questions last, and that’s completely unacceptable.”



Demonstrators angry after the fatal shooting of Philando Castile by police chanted and honked horns early Thursday as they blocked Summit Avenue in front of the governor's residence in St. Paul.



‘Knew something was wrong’
Katherine Bleth, who lives across the street from the shooting scene, said she was driving home with a friend when she saw the crime scene “right in front of me.”
“Cop cars were rushing past us; we knew something was wrong,” she said.
She saw and videotaped an officer performing CPR on a man lying just outside the driver’s side door of the car, then saw paramedics put the man on a stretcher and load him into an ambulance.
“What I see is all my neighbors standing outside, videotaping and very upset,” she said. She said there were 12 to 15 squad cars, including some Roseville officers.
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A 28-year-old nursing student who declined to be named said she was sitting in the parking lot of a nearby apartment building and saw the scene unfold. It was around 9 p.m., she said, when the car was pulled over.




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"I just heard the officer say, 'Put your hands up,' and before he finished saying that there were four shots," the woman said.
The 10-minute video shows the girlfriend being ordered from her car by several officers, one of whom is holding a child, presumed to be the girlfriend’s 7-year-old daughter. The woman was put in the back of a squad car in handcuffs.

“Please don’t tell me my boyfriend’s gone,” the girlfriend pleads in the video. “He don’t deserve this, please. He works for St. Paul Public Schools. He’s never been in jail, anything. He’s not a gang member, anything.”
Mangseth said the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension has been called in to investigate.
“This is an ongoing investigation,” he said. “As this unfolds, we will release the information as we learn it and we will address concerns as we are made aware of them. I don’t have a lot of details right now.”
Mangseth said there hasn’t been an officer-involved shooting in the St. Anthony Police Department’s coverage area “for 30 years.”
“It’s shocking,” he said. “It’s not something that occurs here in our area.”

By 12:30 a.m. Thursday, dozens of people — peaceful but visibly angry — had gathered at the scene in Falcon Heights. Some were chanting anti-police slogans.



A scene from the video posted by a woman in which she described her boyfriend's shooting by police Wednesday night in Falcon Heights.


Later, people protesting the fatal shooting arrived at the governor's residence in St. Paul. According to a livestream by the independent news website Unicorn Riot, dozens of protesters gathered on Summit Avenue at 2 a.m.
They chanted "No Justice, No Peace," while car horns sounded. The group, estimated to be about 100 people, also yelled, "Shut it down!" along with the names of Castile and Jamar Clark, an unarmed black man who was killed in November in a struggle with Minneapolis police.
Shouts of "Wake up!" also were heard, along with demands that Gov. Mark Dayton come out and speak with them.
Minnesota DFL Chair Ken Martin issued a statement calling the shooting "senseless violence that is all too common to a select group of our country."

"We’re not going to stand apart and allow this violence to continue because it happened in Baton Rouge or somewhere else. We’re going to make the changes that need to be made and finally put a stop to this," he said.
Staff writers Libor Jany and Andy Mannix contributed to this report.
 
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Cry me a river. The stupid Jackasses ask to be shot, almost daily. And you Bleeding Hearts expect the officers to see if they can beat these punks to the draw in a game the fools always seem to want to play.

If you are told not to move.... Guess what, don't move.
 

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Yet another man murdered by the police for no apparent reason. Just 2 days ago.

[h=1]A disturbing video of a Louisiana man shot to death while pinned down by police has set off a wave of protests[/h]
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[FONT=&quot]Alton Sterling, a black man who sold CDs outside a convenience store in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, was shot and killed by two police officers after they pinned him down to the ground at 12:35am on Tuesday (July 5). The incident was captured by a bystander on a smartphone video. Officers can be heard yelling “He’s got a gun! Gun!” while Sterling is restrained.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The US Department of Justice will investigate the case, Louisiana governor John Bel Edwards said Wednesday. The US Attorney’s Office and the FBI will assist in the civil rights investigation, ceded by the local police entirely to the federal agencies. “Early yesterday morning we experienced a horrible tragedy,” said during a press conference Carl Dabadie, the Baton Rouge police chief. He named the two officers in the incident: 4-year police veteran Blane Salamoni and 3-year veteran Howie Lake II.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The store owner, who witnessed the shooting, told the Baton Rouge Advocate that the police were aggressive, and the man did not appear to be holding a gun or touching his pockets. He said they did retrieve a gun from Sterling’s pocket after they shot him. Sterling, a 37-year-old father of five, died of multiple gunshot wounds to the chest and back. According to The Guardian, he was the 558th person to be killed by US police in 2016.


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Yet another incident of police abuse. At least they didn't kill this guy. From last summer.

BROOKLYN — Police are investigating a video that shows NYPD officers punching a man while arresting him for trespassing inside a Target store in Flatbush, filmed as a group of angry onlookers shouted at them to stop, according to police and law enforcement sources.

The 14-minute recording begins by showing a group officers on top of the man, pinning him with their knees and bodies about 7:40 p.m. inside the store at 1598 Flatbush Ave.
One of the officers is shown slamming his knee into the suspect's head before he and a female officer begin punching him, according to the video uploaded to YouTube.

More police are then seen arriving at the scene, with multiple officers circling around the suspect to keep the increasingly agitated crowd from intervening.
Shouts of "You can't hit him!" and "Don't hit him!" can be heard in the recording, which was posted on Sunday.
"One person — 50 police for one person," another says, according to the video.
The man had exhibited "concerning behavior," so Target staff summoned police, according to a Target spokeswoman. She referred additional questions to the NYPD, which is currently investigating the incident.
Police eventually escorted the suspect through the crowd, with his shorts unfastened and resting at his ankles, the video shows.
The person shooting the video followed police outside, where the suspect was taken to an ambulance and then a squad car, the video shows.
"I'm out!" the suspect appears to shout as officers put him into the car.
The suspect refused to give his identification to arresting officers, according to the NYPD.
He faces charges of trespassing, resisting arrest, disorderly conduct and obstructing governmental administration, police said.
"At Target, we take the safety and security of our guests, team members and property very seriously," added Target spokeswoman Molly Snyder.
The person who uploaded the video did not immediately return a request for comment.
 

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Here is the 14 minute video from last summer when the police beat a man in a Brooklyn target store.
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Cry me a river. The stupid Jackasses ask to be shot, almost daily. And you Bleeding Hearts expect the officers to see if they can beat these punks to the draw in a game the fools always seem to want to play.

If you are told not to move.... Guess what, don't move.
So you know he went to draw his gun on the officer? You know that happened Willie? And you know I am a bleeding heart (liberal)?
 

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Willie, I could be here all day posting these videos of senseless killings and beating by cops. Your okay with this?

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[video=youtube;oL3_CxTSfi0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL3_CxTSfi0[/video]
 
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Willie, I could be here all day posting these videos of senseless killings and beating by cops. Your okay with this?

[video=youtube;COsbqzYdzR4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COsbqzYdzR4[/video]
Are you so blind to not ask WHY parts of this video have been cut out? Look at it. The video does not simply keep running...... it is selectively edited.
 
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So you know he went to draw his gun on the officer? You know that happened Willie? And you know I am a bleeding heart (liberal)?
Didn't you immediately assume he didn't? You guys are pitiful.
 

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Maybe this one was, But are saying all the others were also? So you picked one out of 10. Not the best odds. Ten percent of getting beat up for a reason. A 90% chance of just being wailed on for no good reason. From people that are supposed to be professionals and serve and protect.
You still have not answered my questions from the other post.
 
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Joseph go try being a cop in a large city and then come back and spew your hate.
 

JosephsDreams

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Didn't you immediately assume he didn't? You guys are pitiful.
That's right. I assume he didn't because there was a eyewitness there who claimed he didn't. And also because this stuff happens way to much. In this case, because of their history, one has to assume there may a good chance that fear, or prejudice may have won out.
And I am not calling you pitiful because you take a position.
 

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Joseph go try being a cop in a large city and then come back and spew your hate.
I never said it was easy. In fact I started my post implying I know how hard it is. I said way to many innocent people are being killed.
Are you going to have a different standard for police then the rest of society? If a person grows up poor, in an abusive household, with no dad, when he becomes of age, isn't he accountable for his actions? Can he say, if he kills someone, he grew up in a violent household, it wasn't / isn't easy?
 
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Move this to the conspiracy section please
 

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The police shouldn't be pointing lethal weapons at people with no justification.

If they are worried for their safety they have non-lethal means at their disposal.

Using lethality should be a last resort.

It would be a lot easier to say sorry for wrongly tazing you than trying to say sorry for killing you.