Why the Earth Was Created in Seven Days

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pappq said:
The waters weren't there before the beginning, they were brought forth into existence in the beginning, hence why the scriptures says, In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And as part of what he brought forth into existence, was the waters that existed on the earth. Only God existed before the beginning, as he had no beginning, but water, and everything else created, had a beginning in the beginning of all things.
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Darkness was over the surface of THE DEEP...and THE SPIRIT of THE LORD hovered over THE WATERS.

Nothing but a soupy mass until HE put a firmament and separated the waters above from the waters below.
How did you think land was created?
Go back and read that the waters were gathered together so that dry land would appear...
 
miknik5

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pappq said:
Explain the relevance of your statements to the foreshadowance of 7 days to 7,000 years of what I mentioned, if you even can. I am talking about apples, and you are talking about cars, where is the correlation?
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I don't care about 7000 years. I don't care if tomorrow is the last day...I don't care if I leave this earth before the last day...
I know what I know and I have left myself COMPLETELY to HIM who saves...

I don't need a man to tell me to do this or do that...
I trust that all things are under HIS SOVEREIGN control and I am exactly where I am supposed to be.
For I know if I am not exactly where I am supposed to be, HE sure does discipline...and it is not pleasant but necessary.

The alternative would be NOT to be disciplined and rebuked.
And what would that mean sir, a seared conscience and the storing up of HIS WRATH to the day.

It is sufficient to be like Abraham and leave all men to THE LORD who will give to each man as HE apportions...
 
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Then the question would be when did God set the earth to rotating. I don't see that mentioned. Perhaps God worked on it for a million years just holding it in His hand and not allowing it to rotate. We could play with semantics all week. What would that accomplish? Perhaps it was the 4th day that God flung the earth into orbit around the sun He had created.
 
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oldhermit said:
The events of Matthew 24 have already been fulfilled.
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I saw this post and would like to comment if I may Oldhermit :). I do not want to assume I can understand your full meaning with just one small post about Matthews 24 :). I do not think all of Matt 24 has been fulfilled. here the reason why I do not think so and yes I could be wrong too :) and it is ok if you do not agree with me I could be wrong :).

Matthews 23 Jesus just finished speaking where? The temple; we know this because Matt 24: 1 says Jesus " Departed from the temple".


now after Jesus left the very very strong rebuke in Chapter 23 of the Pharisees Jesus takes the disciples to a part of the temple and tells them that the "Temple" will be destroyed .

Then in verse 3 of matt 24 HIS disciples ask Jesus I believe three questions:

1.When shall these things be?
2. What shall be the signs of thy coming?
3. And the end of the world ?

Jesus answers all of those questions in chap 24 and chap25.
 
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jamesg1951

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Jesus returned on the day of Pentacost. Does that count? :rolleyes:
 
miknik5

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pappq said:
That the coming of Jesus Christ is very close as we are approaching 6,000 years to thus start the millennial kingdom.
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Two resurrections, correct?
There are those who have a part in the first resurrection, correct?
How did those who have a part in the first resurrection HAVE a part in the FIRST RESURRECTION?
How did they get included in the first resurrection but the rest of the dead have to wait until after the 1000 year reign?

Why is that?

The answer is found in John 5.
and it's why the GOSPEL is preached NOW to the living while they are living.
For the ministry of CHRIST is twofold...

And right now it is a ministry of Reconciliation and still the year of GOD'S FAVOR.
When the year of GOD'S FAVOR is complete....then another ministry will begin.
 
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pappq said:
Yes, the temple has been destroyed as prophesied. We are now awaiting the second coming of the Lord.
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Another earthly temple will be rebuilt...just as it is prophecied in Daniel and in Revelation...
 
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pappq said:
We are instructed to study the word of God, which includes knowing things about the future. If you hadn't first heard or studied the word of God, how would you know about the second coming, which is a future event? Or about the resurrection of the dead, which is a future event? Knowing all these things are essential to whomever professes to be a believer in the Lord, and whoever is of the Lord will understand all these events that are to come, as it is even said, the wicked will understand nothing, but the wise will,
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You forgot the part that some of the wise will stumble so as to be made pure for the time of the end and will teach many in TRUE and HOLY RIGHTEOUSNESS...
 
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pappq said:
We are instructed to study the word of God, which includes knowing things about the future. If you hadn't first heard or studied the word of God, how would you know about the second coming, which is a future event? Or about the resurrection of the dead, which is a future event? Knowing all these things are essential to whomever professes to be a believer in the Lord, and whoever is of the Lord will understand all these events that are to come, as it is even said, the wicked will understand nothing, but the wise will,
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Knowing them, and wasting time trying to "de-code" when they will happen are two very different things.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the stewardship[SUP][a][/SUP] from God that is by faith. [SUP]5 [/SUP]The aim of our charge is love that issues from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Certain persons, by swerving from these, have wandered away into vain discussion, [SUP]7 [/SUP]desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make confident assertions.
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[SUP]22 [/SUP]So flee youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart. [SUP]23 [/SUP]Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels.
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hornetguy said:
Knowing them, and wasting time trying to "de-code" when they will happen are two very different things.
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Who here is discussing myths and endless genealogies? The word of God is meant to be discussed and dissected, and it certainly pertains to future events that the wise will desire to understand, and desire to know, and come to understand. Does a good laborer of a harvest not regard knowing of the harvest that the master has appointed to happen? Certainly, so he who labors for the Lord will certainly concern himself with knowing what the Lord will do, why else do you think the Lord revealed what he will do if not for us to study it? Whoever desires to remain ignorant is and will be ignorant.
 
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miknik5 said:
Two resurrections, correct?
There are those who have a part in the first resurrection, correct?
How did those who have a part in the first resurrection HAVE a part in the FIRST RESURRECTION?
How did they get included in the first resurrection but the rest of the dead have to wait until after the 1000 year reign?

Why is that?

The answer is found in John 5.
and it's why the GOSPEL is preached NOW to the living while they are living.
For the ministry of CHRIST is twofold...

And right now it is a ministry of Reconciliation and still the year of GOD'S FAVOR.
When the year of GOD'S FAVOR is complete....then another ministry will begin.
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Neither resurrection has occurred. The first resurrection occurs at the second coming of Jesus Christ. The second resurrection occurs after the millennial kingdom. Those who partake of the first resurrection will not die a second death that comes from the judgment of the lava lake.
 
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jamesg1951 said:
Then the question would be when did God set the earth to rotating. I don't see that mentioned. Perhaps God worked on it for a million years just holding it in His hand and not allowing it to rotate. We could play with semantics all week. What would that accomplish? Perhaps it was the 4th day that God flung the earth into orbit around the sun He had created.
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Well, HE did what HE did in Joshua 10...
And HE also made darkness come upon the earth when CHRIST was crucified....

So, I guess even these things are under HIS SOVEREIGN control...
 
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pappq said:
Neither resurrection has occurred. The first resurrection occurs at the second coming of Jesus Christ. The second resurrection occurs after the millennial kingdom. Those who partake of the first resurrection will not die a second death that comes from the judgment of the lava lake.
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you suggested that the 1000 year reign is PERFECT, sir...that this will be the 1000 year reign directly after the 7000 year reign and you implied that this is those who have entered HIS REST.

And I disagree with you.
I disagree with you because those who will reign are those who had a part in the first resurrection who have already passed from death to life...and they are reigning with HIM but since satan is let lose again, then no, not all have entered HIS REST...even during this 1000 year reign...

But those who had a part in the first resurrection have already entered HIS REST.
Because HE said, those who believe in ME, though they die, shall live...and those who live and believe in ME shall NEVER die.

HE is the RESURRECTION and the LIFE...and those who believe in the TRUTH, who have heard the VOICE of the SON of GOD...NOW...have already passed from death to LIFE.

But, as John 5 clearly states, a time will come when ALL, ALL, ALL will hear the VOICE of the SON of GOD...and these will be raised up to be judged according to their works...and if their names are not found in the BOOK of LIFE (from the beginning) they will be cast into the lake of fire with the dragon.

Note that just prior to the 1000 year reign ONLY the false prophet and the beast (the false christ) are thrown into the lake of fire...and satan, the dragon, who gave his power to the beast will be bound...he doesn't go into the lake of fire until AFTER the 1000 year reign...

And all those who die, before the 1000 year reign weren't cast into the lake of fire and have to wait until after the 1000 year reign...
 
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pappq said:
Who here is discussing myths and endless genealogies? The word of God is meant to be discussed and dissected, and it certainly pertains to future events that the wise will desire to understand, and desire to know, and come to understand. Does a good laborer of a harvest not regard knowing of the harvest that the master has appointed to happen? Certainly, so he who labors for the Lord will certainly concern himself with knowing what the Lord will do, why else do you think the Lord revealed what he will do if not for us to study it? Whoever desires to remain ignorant is and will be ignorant.
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The wise are those who keep their feet planted firmly on THE FOUNDATION and do not "go out"...
 
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jamesg1951 said:
Then the question would be when did God set the earth to rotating. I don't see that mentioned. Perhaps God worked on it for a million years just holding it in His hand and not allowing it to rotate. We could play with semantics all week. What would that accomplish? Perhaps it was the 4th day that God flung the earth into orbit around the sun He had created.
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The rotation of the earth commenced on day one when it was brought forth into existence, that's why we read,

God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning--the first day. (Genesis 1:5 [NIV])
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There cannot be evening and morning subsequent of each other without a full rotation of the earth. So here the rotation is implied by the account given to us.
 
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pappq said:
The reason God created this heaven and earth in 7 days is to foreshadow how long it will last for, which is 7,000 years. The last 1,000 years correspond to a Sabbath rest for the entire earth, which in Hebrews is spoken of,And this is what is also spoken of as the "millennial kingdom",The earth is currently approximately almost 6,000 thousand years. You may even look at the Jewish calendar to see this, which is an estimate of years since the beginning of creation.
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Read your post again. You implied that the 1000 year reign (this millennial kingdom) corresponds to a SABBATH REST FOR THE ENTIRE EARTH???????


Can't be since satan will go out and influence so as to gather those who had a part in this 1000 year (sabbath) reign????? against THE LORD?!

That is incorrect and terribly misleading and misinterpreting what is written of in Revelation 16 through, I believe 20
 
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pappq said:
The rotation of the earth commenced on day one when it was brought forth into existence, that's why we read,



There cannot be evening and morning subsequent of each other without a full rotation of the earth. So here the rotation is implied by the account given to us.
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Umm there was no sun or moon so how did the rotation of the earth play into that, they were allowed to shine on the 4th day.
 
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okay but it does not say how long that first day lasted.
 
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