Children forced to take Vaccines or not be able to go to school

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I know I would be scoffed at. I said it in a earlier post.
It reminds me when Jesus said it is to much for you to bear.
You don't see because your eyes are closed.

And you did not answer my questions, always a clear sign to me.
Like I said, what I am saying is the truth. Not because of me.
But because of what I have seen in real life.
and more importantly, because the bible backs it up.
You won't find any scoffing on my end. People are clueless about how animals are killed for their next hormonally charged meal which is one of the greatest causes of cancer of all time. I don't think it's a laughing matter at all. Our oceans are getting so depleted of fish it's not even funny. Our land is so void of natural resources because of the ignorance in the human race. Education, awareness and intervention is key, so keep posting, even if it doesn't reach some at this point, it can teach many others about what is ethically right for their body, the earth's animals, oceans, land and other global resources it needs to continue.
 

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The anti-vaccine movement is based entirely on propaganda. You are putting other people's Children at Risk by refusing to vaccinate your children. Follow the rules or send them to private school
If you have vaccinated your children to prevent a disease,
why are you afried of a non-vaccinated child?


Do you feel your kids will catch a desease after being vaccinated for it?
 
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Mind blown lol
 

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Obama Administration Opens the Border to Immigrant STDs
Three more STDs will be allowed through border control.
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/...nistration-opens-the-border-to-immigrant-stds


In President Barack Obama’s opening year in office, he removed a ban on hiv-positive
foreigners entering the country. At the end of March of his final year in office, he will
remove the entry ban on three more sexually transmitted diseases (stds).

According to the Department of Health and Human Services (hhs), the number of inadmissible
communicable diseases barring entry to the United States will drop to four: syphilis, gonorrhea,
tuberculosis and leprosy. Three stds chancroid, granuloma inguinale and lymphogranuloma
venereum will no longer be considered “diseases of public health significance.”

In 2008, then President George W. Bush signed a law, which made it the responsibility of the hhs to determine whether or not a disease should be considered “a communicable disease of public health significance.” In 2009, despite the original clause being clear about hiv, it was dropped from the list.

At that time, the U.S. had the highest prevalence of hiv infection of any developed country.

Despite the Center for Disease Control and Prevention describing last year as “the year
of outbreaks and increases in reported stds,” the administration is opening the border for more.

The hhs calculated in 2009 that the cost of additional health care from “onward transmission” of hiv would be between $86 to $513 million. For the most recent change, President Obama’s hhs secretary ran the numbers again. The verdict: “Not economically significant,” since it won’t be above $100 million per year.

Jon Feere, a legal policy analyst from the Center for Immigration Studies, heavily opposes the changes. He wrote:

The administration argues that this change is beneficial because physicians who would otherwise be administering the exams “will be able to devote more time and training to other, more common and/or more serious health issues.” Sound familiar? This is the same argument the Obama administration makes for directing ice [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] to only focus on deporting “the worst of the worst” criminal aliens. By ignoring the run-of-the-mill illegal aliens, law enforcement can better focus on the most egregious offenders, they claim. But it means that plenty of dangerous aliens get a pass and it means that violence has largely become a prerequisite for immigration enforcement.

Feere says the decision backs up what he has long been arguing: Immigration is the defining issue for many politicians today. Never mind the consequences, as Feere explains, “increased immigration trumps all other concerns.”
 
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I think I'd rather get HPV than go without steak.

I apologize, I must have skipped the part of the bible that encouraged us to live this vegan lifestyle. It makes me question why Christ ate fish... the humanity!

I personally think God created the animals for us, to eat. "Cruelty" is a subjective term. The act of killing a living animal can, by definition, be considered cruel. I don't think Christ was cruel when he killed and ate fish. I don't poke at anyone who wants to live this lifestyle, but I don't choose it... and more importantly, I don't advocate this lifestyle to prevent HPV which was the context of the discussion.

You should be apologising to all those animals who go through what you define as 'subjective' cruelty. They're subjected to indisputable cruelty illustrated so well in the documentaries Earthlings and Cowspiracy.

Do you have any understanding of the hormones injected in meat, once the animal is killed in the most disgraceful way possible? Do you realise when fisherman bring all that salmon and the like to shore, they ask the sellers what shade of pink they'd like it in and inject all kinds of nasty chemicals into the fish in order to be able to sell it? Is there any comprehension about depleting the earth, its trees, animals and oceans of its natural resources? Do you know where we're headed with global warming? Do you know that red meat is the one of the biggest causes of cancer?

The number one biggest contributor to global warming is the meat and dairy industry. Veganism looks after the person, the animals and earth itself. If you educated yourself on what is done to animals, the growth hormones and antibiotics in meat, the disastrous affect this has on animals and in turn the earth and ourselves, everyone would be so much better off.


The context of the discussion is broad enough that it bears total relevancy for reasons for veganism.
 

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The four horseman

The first is religious deception, next is war, then famine,
and the 4th horsemen is pestilence

This horsemen represent the final, end-time culmination of the most traumatic problems
endured by a rebellious mankind. They picture one of the most ominous scenarios ever.

“And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come
and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death,
and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth,
to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth”
(Revelation 6:7-8).


The context mentions two of the other horsemen—war and famine.
But we cannot be certain of the symbolism of the last horseman from this passage.
The key word to its identity is the word pale, which often makes us think of someone
who is feeling sick, having an anemic-looking appearance.

Pale is translated from the Greek chloros, which we would normally take to mean the
color of chlorophyll, the property that gives plants their healthy green appearance.
When used biblically, however, chloros means the sickly pale green color of sickness and disease.


Other biblical translations describe the pale horse as an ash-colored horse, a horse sickly green, a horse sickly pale and an ashy pale horse. We have continually stressed throughout that we should look to Christ the Revelator to explain these seals and symbols. He provides us with the most correct word to unlock the true identity of this pale green horse which man’s best translations cannot: “and there shall be?…?pestilences” (Matthew 24:7).

The man on the pale horse symbolizes climactic, globe-encircling plagues and pandemics
occurring and soon to occur in this modern age!

Look up pestilence in any Bible concordance and you will be amazed by the link
between the second, third and fourth horsemen representing war, famine and pestilence
(Jeremiah 21:9; 27:13; 29:17-18; 32:24; 34:17; 38:2; 42:16-17; 44:13).



These three horsemen derive their origin directly from the first horseman of religious deception,
 

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You're American. Look at the top of your arms near the shoulder. Do you have a slight indent/scar there? That means you got it when you were a baby. No booster shot required. Good for life.
Nope, it was declared eradicated a year before I was born. But I have been noticing little blips on the news from time to time the past 10 years of someone coming down with it, always overseas. I know the Soviet Union weaponized it, so it stands to reason we did too. Who knows what Mohamedian is going to try to use it on us. The local health department claims the cdc is ready to administer it during an outbreak, but the government couldn't get water to New Orleans in 05. I have money, I should be able to buy it. Why withhold it?
 

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Australia Passes ‘No Jab, No Pay’ Immunization Policy
Choose: Immunize your children or lose your benefits.

The Australian Parliament passed a tighter law on November 23 that will prevent parents from receiving childcare benefits if they don’t immunize their children. Changes will be enforced beginning Jan. 1, 2016, and it may cost parents thousands of dollars in lost benefit payments.
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/...alia-passes-no-jab-no-pay-immunization-policy


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Zika Virus and the Pale Horse of the Apocalypse
How do the Bible’s prophetic warnings about coming disease epidemics affect you?

The World Health Organization (who) has declared the Zika virus a “public health emergency of international concern.” The virus is linked to the fetal deformity microcephaly (which can cause neurological defects and seizures), of which there are now over 4,000 suspected cases in Brazil.

Over 20 countries have confirmed cases of the Zika virus, with Brazil having an estimated 1.5 million. According to the who’s estimate, around 4 million cases can be expected by the year’s end.

Zika is spreading “explosively” through the Aedes mosquito, as well as through sexual intercourse. Brazil’s, El Salvador’s and Colombia’s governments have recommended putting off becoming pregnant for a number of months. Stratfor predicts lower birth rates could “hasten regional decline.”
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/...ka-virus-and-the-pale-horse-of-the-apocalypse


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Why the Alzheimer’s Pandemic?
A look at how we treat our elders suggests a contributing cause

The Alzheimer’s pandemic has long been a dark riddle. What are its causes? Why has it apparently become much more widespread just in the last few generations? Why does it afflict some nations more aggressively than others? Why do twice as many women suffer from it than men? And what can we do to fight back against this terrible, incurable disease?
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/13517.2.182.0/society/why-the-alzheimers-pandemic


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The Most Affordable Health Care There Is
Everyone qualifies, but few ever bother to apply.
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/...ease/the-most-affordable-health-care-there-is
 

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Never mind the animal cruelty. Never mind the hormones that the cow has been fed. Never mind the chemicals injected into the meat, and never mind meat being one of the number one cuases of cancer.
Veganism is one of the best thing a person can invest their lives into, for the animals and for the globe and its resources. Try to be more mindful of this when you make statements like that.
God made animals to eat.
 

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You should be apologising to all those animals who go through what you define as 'subjective' cruelty. They're subjected to indisputable cruelty illustrated so well in the documentaries Earthlings and Cowspiracy.

Do you have any understanding of the hormones injected in meat, once the animal is killed in the most disgraceful way possible? Do you realise when fisherman bring all that salmon and the like to shore, they ask the sellers what shade of pink they'd like it in and inject all kinds of nasty chemicals into the fish in order to be able to sell it? Is there any comprehension about depleting the earth, its trees, animals and oceans of its natural resources? Do you know where we're headed with global warming? Do you know that red meat is the one of the biggest causes of cancer?

The number one biggest contributor to global warming is the meat and dairy industry. Veganism looks after the person, the animals and earth itself. If you educated yourself on what is done to animals, the growth hormones and antibiotics in meat, the disastrous affect this has on animals and in turn the earth and ourselves, everyone would be so much better off.


The context of the discussion is broad enough that it bears total relevancy for reasons for veganism.
The red meat causes cancer has never been proven. The biggest cause of cancer is bad genetics.
 

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If we all became vegans than the farming industry would fall and that would cause our country to go bankrupt. Not the right way to go. But farmers do need to treat their animals as good as they can and minimize stress. Sometimes hard to do that when the animals only see you close up very occasionally.
 

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The red meat causes cancer has never been proven. The biggest cause of cancer is bad genetics.
Google it. Over 100 grams of red meat a day can cause cancer.
 

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God made animals to eat.

no not in the beginning , and also will not in the future.

when Christ is King on earth, people will have there own gardens
 
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Google it. Over 100 grams of red meat a day can cause cancer.
I just did. The only thing I saw was that the world health organization claims it could be a cause, but I did find a lot of doctors saying that they don't believe red meat causes cancer.
 

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no not in the beginning , and also will not in the future.

when Christ is King on earth, people will have there own gardens
Y'all can eat your greens while I feast on juicy animal flesh.
 

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Y'all can eat your greens while I feast on juicy animal flesh.
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain:
for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.



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But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree;
and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the Lord of hosts hath spoken it.

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They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst,
eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the Lord.
 
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I like my steak bloody. So juicy.
 
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If we all became vegans than the farming industry would fall and that would cause our country to go bankrupt. Not the right way to go. But farmers do need to treat their animals as good as they can and minimize stress. Sometimes hard to do that when the animals only see you close up very occasionally.

That is total misinformation and couldn't be more wrong. As I said earlier education is urgently required.

The second biggest contributor to global warming is the meat and dairy industry, so it's about time we think about our carbon footprint. Cows and pigs fart a lot - methane. That's more dangerous than cars and the smoke chimneys let of and things of the like -18% is due to that. Whereas the whole world transport is 30.5%. Everyone talks about transport, Al Gore did the convenient truth, but conveniently left out meat and dairy and now his second one is going to incorporate it because the United Nations have released a paper saying that that is one of the biggest contributors to global warming.


What about all those poor souls in underdeveloped countries who survive because they've got a couple of cows? We take all their grain. Backstage at Live 8 one of the African women famously said to a person who asked "how do feel, everyone is trying to wipe out debt??!!!" she responded "if stopped drinking your lattes we wouldn't have children dying in Africa". Shortly afterward on film in a documentary showed all the grain that could've fed all the starving children is being shipped back to us and our Europe to feed the cattle.
So it's actually the reverse every time.

Over here those who are happy to support our dairy farmers and egg producers would think that would be a massive amount of people out work. They wouldn't be out of work because they could grow all the vegan products instead, they could do all the grain just to name one example. Further if the whole of America stopped using the grain for cattle there'd be no such thing as world starvation. Just America alone. So all the farmers would carry on having loads of work but they would grow soy and different grains and wheats that would go to people instead of the cattle.

 
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It's more like selling books at a LGBT bookstore. You're selling nothing but the products of the companies you deem are evil. Not buying it at Walmart. That's called hypocrisy, not making a living.
Okay so by your logic I should go back to school and find another job?....maybe you should examine yourself before making such sweeping statements.....do you use procter and gamble or SC johnson products? b/c if you do then you indirectly support gay rights.....yea so next time you use the crest toothpaste remember that lol......

A homeopathic doctor still has to use medicines like antibiotics once in a while...does that make him a hypocrite? no....he has to use what he needs to treat a patient's infection....is he a criminal for preferring natural remedies over drugs? no.....

Maybe JD is right, reasoning with you is pretty useless so I shall not waste my keystrokes, nor time indulging this nonsense. I will cease responding to you.