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Magenta

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Adultery is conceived in the heart when you give yourself over to the lust of wanting to do it. God looks at the heart. It is also talking about another mans wife, because it is impossible to commit adultery with an unbetrothed or unmarried woman. The definition of adultery is to deal with another mans wife.
Again you completely ignore what Jesus said, making you a liar. Jesus said,

But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully
has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

The word Jesus used is not wife as you erroneously repeatedly claim.
It is
γυναῖκα which is woman, not wife. Now it can mean wife, also,
because wives are women, but by no means does it refer to wives exclusively.
It refers to all women. To say otherwise as you insist on doing is ignorance.


 
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Again you completely ignore what Jesus said, making you a liar. Jesus said,

But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully
has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

The word Jesus used is not wife as you erroneously repeatedly claim.
It is
γυναῖκα which is woman, not wife. Now it can mean wife, also,
because wives are women, but by no means does it refer to wives exclusively.
It refers to all women. To say otherwise as you insist on doing is ignorance.


A wife is also a woman. The word used in Greek is this: gune, which means SPECIALLY a wife.

G1135 (Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Greek and Hebrew Dictionaries)
G1135 γυνή gune (goo-nay') n.
1. a woman
2. (specially) a wife

You are ignorant concerning the biblical definition of adultery.
 

trofimus

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I think the important word here is "adultery", not the Greek term for woman/wife.

If it is supposed to be adultery, the one looking at the woman must be married to another one or the woman he is looking at is somebody else's wife.
 

Magenta

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A wife is also a woman. The word used in Greek is this: gune, which means SPECIALLY a wife.

G1135 (Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Greek and Hebrew Dictionaries)
G1135 γυνή gune (goo-nay') n.
1. a woman
2. (specially) a wife

You are ignorant concerning the biblical definition of adultery.
Is English your second language? You seem to have problems understanding what is said.

I already stated a wife was a woman. It seems a bit redundant to say that,
but it also seemed necessary to clarify that other's wives are included.
The word is
γυναῖκα and means woman, NOT wife. You are promoting that lust is okay as long as the woman is not married. Jesus will not agree with you on that. He said it was adultery to lust after a woman. He did not specify that she had to be married. Only ignoramuses do that :)
 

Magenta

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Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 1135: γυνή

γυνή, γυναικός, ;
1. universally, a woman of any age, whether a virgin, or married, or a widow: Matthew 9:20; Matthew 13:33; Matthew 27:55; Luke 13:11; Acts 5:14, etc.; μεμνηστευμένῃ τίνι γυνή, Luke 2:5 R G; ὕπανδρος γυνή, Romans 7:2; γυνή χήρα, Luke 4:26 (1 Kings 7:2(); ;feminavidua, Nepos, praef. 4). 2. a wife: 1 Corinthians 7:3f, 10, 18;Ephesians 5:22, etc.; γυνή τίνος, Matthew 5:31; Matthew 19:3, 5; Acts 5:1, 7; 1 Corinthians 7:2; Ephesians 5:28; Revelation 2:20 (G L WHmarginal reading), etc. of a betrothed woman: Matthew 1:20, 24. γυνήτοῦ πατρός his step-mother: 1 Corinthians 5:1 (אָב אֵשֶׁת, Leviticus 18:8). ἔχειν γυναῖκα: Matthew 14:4; Matthew 22:28; Mark 6:18; Mark 12:23; Luke 20:33; see ἔχω, I. 2 b. at the end γύναι, as a form of address, may be used — either in indignation, Luke 22:57; or in admiration,Matthew 15:28; or in kindness and favor, Luke 13:12; John 4:21; or in respect, John 2:4; John 19:26 (as in Homer, Iliad 3, 204; Odyssey 19, 221;Josephus, Antiquities 1, 16, 3).

http://biblehub.com/greek/1135.htm
 

Sheepman

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Is English your second language? You seem to have problems understanding what is said.

I already stated a wife was a woman. It seems a bit redundant to say that,
but it also seemed necessary to clarify that other's wives are included.
The word is
γυναῖκα and means woman, NOT wife. You are promoting that lust is okay as long as the woman is not married. Jesus will not agree with you on that. He said it was adultery to lust after a woman. He did not specify that she had to be married. Only ignoramuses do that :)

Great answer. It really needs to be adressed today.

Just imagine all the paperwork one has to do before strolling down the street to be absolutely shure if this and that woman (or man) is actually married.
 

trofimus

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Great answer. It really needs to be adressed today.

Just imagine all the paperwork one has to do before strolling down the street to be absolutely shure if this and that woman (or man) is actually married.
Yes, more difficult with how girls/women are dressed today. You would never guess they are married according to what they are showing to public.

But, you know if you are married, at least.
 

Magenta

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Great answer. It really needs to be adressed today.

Just imagine all the paperwork one has to do before strolling down the street to be absolutely shure if this and that woman (or man) is actually married.
Perhaps simple minded incapable-of-speaking-truth will say that people should wear signs, saying, I am not married, you may safely lust after me and Jesus will not condemn you. And the pedophiles can now safely have a field day. Imagine! It is no longer a crime to lust after unwed thirteen year olds! We must alert the media. Society has it all wrong according to some. So sad. Disgusting.
 

trofimus

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Perhaps simple minded incapable-of-speaking-truth will say that people should wear signs, saying, I am not married, you may safely lust after me and Jesus will not condemn you. And the pedophiles can now safely have a field day. Imagine! It is no longer a crime to lust after unwed thirteen year olds! We must alert the media. Society has it all wrong according to some. So sad. Disgusting.
I think Jesus will not condemn us because of any of our sins as long as we keep the true faith in Him.
 
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Obviously it would be wrong to lust after people which may be married and thereby committing adultery in your heart with with someone else's wife. However it does not make it illegal wanting to marry a fair to look upon woman. Btw , a married woman is supposed to wear a head covering, showing she is under the authority of her husband.
 

Magenta

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I think Jesus will not condemn us because of any of our sins as long as we keep the true faith in Him.
True, there is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. I used the wrong word, actually (thank you for pointing that out :D). Jesus calls adultery a sin, regardless whether it is lusting after a woman who is married or not, since He uses a universal word for woman as I already showed. So it is a sin, not that people who are covered by His righteous blood will be condemned for that sin. That is what I meant to say :)
 
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Lots of heresy being bandied about here.

Sin is not just the act or thoughts of adultery but fornication too.
 

Magenta

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Obviously it would be wrong to lust after people which may be married and thereby committing adultery in your heart with with someone else's wife. However it does not make it illegal wanting to marry a fair to look upon woman. Btw , a married woman is supposed to wear a head covering, showing she is under the authority of her husband.
You keep confusing lust with a desire to marry. They are not the same thing.
And it is a sin to lust after others, period, whether they are married or not. Jesus said so.
 

trofimus

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True, there is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. I used the wrong word, actually (thank you for pointing that out :D). Jesus calls adultery a sin, regardless whether it is lusting after a woman who is married or not, since He uses a universal word for woman as I already showed. So it is a sin, not that people who are covered by His righteous blood will be condemned for that sin. That is what I meant to say :)
Indeed, I know what you meant.

English is not my first language, does "adultery" mean that at least the one involved person must be in marriage?
Because I am suprised a little that you discuss "woman" instead of "adultery" :)
 

Magenta

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Simple >>> Jesus said so but you do not have the humility required to admit when you are wrong. Instead you hold to your opinions of the flesh since you walk in darkness and shadows, slandering others while blaspheming the Person and work of God, rejecting the words and work of Jesus Christ with your doctrines of demons.
 

Magenta

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Indeed, I know what you meant.

English is not my first language, does "adultery" mean that at least the one involved person must be in marriage?
Because I am suprised a little that you discuss "woman" instead of "adultery" :)
The words of Jesus:

I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully
has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Again, woman does not specify married, and indeed is
a universal word for woman of any age or marital status.
 

trofimus

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The words of Jesus:

I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully
has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Again, woman does not specify married, and indeed is
a universal word for woman of any age or marital status.
I know, that gyne/gynaika can mean anything there, thats why I am asking about the word "adultery". Does adultery (in English) requires at least one involved person to be married?
 

Magenta

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Because I am suprised a little that you discuss "woman" instead of "adultery" :)
It is only because a certain someone insists γυνή, γυναικός, means something that it does not.
 

Magenta

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I know, that gyne/gynaika can mean anything there, thats why I am asking about the word "adultery". Does adultery (in English) requires at least one involved person to be married?
Jesus said, anyone. That would include both married and unmarried, don't you think? :)