Are there three persons in God?
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The link you provide DOES NOT prove the doctrine of the Trinity. Because The Bible teaches that God is the Holy Spirit AND Father of Jesus Christ. Review the Biblical description of God in the following:
The Biblical Description of God - in Theology/Prophecy & Revelation Forum Forum
Quasar92
That is trash that doesn't dignify a response of any kind to a sideline parasite.
Show me where the Bible, Jesus or His disciples ever taught the doctrine of the Trinity. Review the following for the Biblical description of God.
The Biblical Description of God - in Theology/Prophecy & Revelation Forum Forum
Quasar92
All of which pertain tio the propjetic fact that Jesus became the Son of God/God the Son when God, the Holy Spirit became His Father in Mt.1:20 and in Lk.1:35. The origin of the pre-incarnate Jesus, the FIRSTBORN over all creation, according to Col.1:15, is documented in Pr.8:22-36. According to Isa.45:5 and in other places, God, the Holy Spirit and Father was the one and only God, until the incarnation of Jesus.
Quasar92
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It was Augustine that expressed what has since become a popular belief that the three men were the three persons of the Holy Trinity.
Interesting that early roman church under the influence of pagan thought saw something the Jews who knew the scriptures never saw.
No evidence in scripture that God had a Son before He was the incarnation on earth and for this Servetus was sent to his death.
The Jews knew nothing of this, but lucky for us we have Erasmus and Augustine who understood the Hebrew faith far far better than the Hebrews and were able to insert their bias to conform to prevailing pagan triad that had been around in most every other religion in that point in time into the Hebrew scripture.
Just sayin....
you make me smile! the Jews knew the scriptures indeed!! i can see how they were able to identify the messiah in thy mist!! hmmmm, the fact that they thought they had mastered the scriptures was the very reason they mist out on the messiah when he showed up!!! i wonder how they could have seen the doctrine of trinity when they couldn't even see the messiah standing in their mist
Interesting that early roman church under the influence of pagan thought saw something the Jews who knew the scriptures never saw.
No evidence in scripture that God had a Son before He was the incarnation on earth and for this Servetus was sent to his death.
The Jews knew nothing of this, but lucky for us we have Erasmus and Augustine who understood the Hebrew faith far far better than the Hebrews and were able to insert their bias to conform to prevailing pagan triad that had been around in most every other religion in that point in time into the Hebrew scripture.
Just sayin....
you make me smile! the Jews knew the scriptures indeed!! i can see how they were able to identify the messiah in thy mist!! hmmmm, the fact that they thought they had mastered the scriptures was the very reason they mist out on the messiah when he showed up!!! i wonder how they could have seen the doctrine of trinity when they couldn't even see the messiah standing in their mist
Hi sis, the following Biblical description of God is what I think. Check it our for yourself. It completely proves who and what God is that the Trinity cannot do.
The Biblical Description of God - in Theology/Prophecy & Revelation Forum Forum
Quasar92
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The problem with you bro is that you base your knowledge on the scriptures and theology without trying to see what the WORD MADE FLESH( Jesus Christ) said concerning Himself, the Holy Spirit and the Father. i just give you a single eg. when the Jews asked WORD OF GOD weather He had ever met Abraham. What was His response? "Before Abraham was I AM" Take note here that He used the title of God revealed to Moses.
by the way Jn clearly states in Jn 1!1 That before there was a beginning was THE WORD and THE WORD was with GOD and THIS WORD was GOD!
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So because they did not understand trinity that is why they rejected Him, really? Funny how St. Paul never expounded on this, perhaps why they rejected Jesus is more complicated than you are willing to admit.
How many times did the Hebrews fail in the old testament? How many people go to church every week and hear all about Jesus and still cannot recognize or even do not want to know the truth because it does not fit their agenda for their own lives?
Paul should have then written in His letters ,
"Dearly beloved ones do you not know that the God of Abraham and Moses is three not one as the scripture so clearly tell us"
How many times did the Hebrews fail in the old testament? How many people go to church every week and hear all about Jesus and still cannot recognize or even do not want to know the truth because it does not fit their agenda for their own lives?
Paul should have then written in His letters ,
"Dearly beloved ones do you not know that the God of Abraham and Moses is three not one as the scripture so clearly tell us"
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So because they did not understand trinity that is why they rejected Him, really? Funny how St. Paul never expounded on this, perhaps why they rejected Jesus is more complicated than you are willing to admit.
How many times did the Hebrews fail in the old testament? How many people go to church every week and hear all about Jesus and still cannot recognize or even do not want to know the truth because it does not fit their agenda for their own lives?
Paul should have then written in His letters ,
"Dearly beloved ones do you not know that the God of Abraham and Moses is three not one as the scripture so clearly tell us"
PAUL FOR SURE DID! ITS NOT BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET THAT MEANS HE DIDN'T EXPOUND CLEARLY ON THE TRINITY! YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK ACCORDING TO THE KNOWLEDGE YOU POSSES AT A GIVEN TIME! NO ONE KNOWS IT ALL AND NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW IT ALL. WE ARE ALL IN THE PROCESS OF LEARNING
How many times did the Hebrews fail in the old testament? How many people go to church every week and hear all about Jesus and still cannot recognize or even do not want to know the truth because it does not fit their agenda for their own lives?
Paul should have then written in His letters ,
"Dearly beloved ones do you not know that the God of Abraham and Moses is three not one as the scripture so clearly tell us"
PAUL FOR SURE DID! ITS NOT BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET THAT MEANS HE DIDN'T EXPOUND CLEARLY ON THE TRINITY! YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK ACCORDING TO THE KNOWLEDGE YOU POSSES AT A GIVEN TIME! NO ONE KNOWS IT ALL AND NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW IT ALL. WE ARE ALL IN THE PROCESS OF LEARNING
My dear sis, your statement is based upon personal opinion without a clue as to the correct assessment of my lifelong experience with the teachings in the Bible is. Jesus remark 1 AM was to inform the Jews of His pre-existence before Abraham, Not that He was God at that time, which He never claimed to be, according to Jn.14:28 and 17:3. He became the Son of God/God the Son, after God, the Holy Spirit produced Him by the virgin Mary, in Mt.1:20 and in Lk.1:35. That is what is meant in what John wrote in Jn.1:1-2. Otherwise your claim that the pre-incarnate Jesus was God, when the Father made Him the FIRSTBORN over all creation, in Col.1:15, documented in Pr.8:22-36, would contradict Isa.45:5, as well as a number of other passages, that YHWH was the one and only God and that there were no others.
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Paul never use word trinity, tri-une, tri-theism, three separate persons. It is not there.
I suggest you read Mark 12.28 -34
When the scribe came to Jesus, a man who knew what the scriptures stated,
the scribe says...."there is one God and there is no other but He"
Well Jesus here, who according to trinitarian doctrine is the third person in the trinity would have known who He was as the third person seems to have missed His opportunity to teach this scribe about the trinity and the three persons.
Shouldn't Jesus who is Truth have said, " Yes there is One God but were are three persons" and elaborated on it after all this is an essential truth is it not, He never seemed afraid before to tell it like it was.
Does Jesus now become complicit in not revealing the truth of the trinity? This is what you are saying, remember He was talking to a scribe.
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The Scriptures clearly refute any such nonsense:
1. it is necessary to properly identify God, whom both Jesus, Paul and John have done, in Jn.1:18, 4:24; Rom.1:20; 2 Cor.3:17-18, Col.1:15 and 1 Jn.4:12, when they identify Him as Spirit.
2. God, who is the Spirit, makes it clear that He is also Holy, in Lev.11:44-45; Lev.19:2; Ps.99:3; Ps.99:5; 1 Pet.1:15-16 and in Rev.4:8. Therefore there is no option to the fact that God is the HOLY SPIRIT. [As well as the Father, according to the Scriptures, recorded in 6. below]
Review also: Jn.4:23 and 2 Cor.3:17 and 18, as well as Mt.1:20 and Lk.1:35.
God is the Holy Spirit and Father of Jesus Christ according to the Scriptures that refute the man made doctrine of the Trinity. Neither the Bible, Jesus nor His disciples ever taught any such thing as the Trinity. But rather, it all came from several of the church fathers, well after Jesus and His disciples were gone.
Quasar92
