Which Bible?

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Naah....that's simply wrong.

The best way to study is to compare two or three different translations... you get a more in depth idea of the thought being expressed... especially if you use a Greek English interlinear....

otherwise, you'd just believe in unicorns...
Of course I believe in unicorns and you should too, even science knows that unicorns existed... The unicorn represents Christ the (one) horn of our salvation.

Real unicorn remains found - CNN.com
 
You have simply defeated your own argument against "translations".....

YOU cannot see the difference between agape and phileo love, because you are reading English TRANSLATIONS of those words.

There IS a difference... a big difference.... hence the need for two words.. The people that spoke Koine Greek knew, and understood the difference, but you, reading a TRANSLATION of those words, cannot see the difference...

Go check some other Greek English dictionaries, and see if you can learn the difference....
I already posted Greek definitions for both agape and Phileo, there is no difference. What do I need to do, keep trying different dictionaries until I find the definition that lines up with what you want to believe agape mean? I'm sure if look hard enough I can make agape mean whatever I want it to mean.

Peter answered Jesus with Phileo all 3 times, what is the significance of Jesus using agape the third time. What great spiritual principle is this demonstrating?
 
how did God approach Abram?

really?

and there were no 10 commandments for how many years after that?

what if you were born an Israelite in captivity during the exile....

you cannot seem to picture God except in your own backyard



honestly, it seems you may want to limit God to YOUR OWN understanding!
My understanding comes from the bible, where does your understanding of God come from?
 
I already posted Greek definitions for both agape and Phileo, there is no difference. What do I need to do, keep trying different dictionaries until I find the definition that lines up with what you want to believe agape mean? I'm sure if look hard enough I can make agape mean whatever I want it to mean.

Peter answered Jesus with Phileo all 3 times, what is the significance of Jesus using agape the third time. What great spiritual principle is this demonstrating?

That's a good question.

Maybe Jesus was meeting Peter at the level he was at when the Lord spoke this to him. Peter had not been born again yet in order to have the "agape" love of God poured into our hearts by the Holy Spirit.

Peter did not possess the true "agape" of God at the time but will latter and the Holy Spirit would bring to Peter's remembrance the Lord's words spoken to him about "phileo" and "agape" love.

Perhaps the Lord was showing Peter he needed the love of God in him in order to do the things that he is called to do - like feed His sheep.

Romans 5:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] and hope does not disappoint, because the love ( agape ) of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us.

 
Well, as I heard one guy years ago say about the KJV. If it was good enough for Paul and Silas - it is good enough for me. Poor guy didn't know the King James version ( notice the term - "version" ...selah ) was written in 1611 I guess...

The discussion that the King James "version" is the only true bible is the most ridiculous one that I have seen. God uses "words" prompted by the Holy Spirit to bring life and truth to people and He uses the scriptures to do it sometimes - in whatever language He has there at the time and He speaks Christ to them.

This is all just a diversion from the enemy to keep people from focusing on Christ.

That is my opinion on the subject. God preserves and honors His word above His name - The word is the Lord Jesus Christ. God preserves Him. - not a "version" of Him.
Is it really ridiculous to believe that God gave us his pure inerrant word to read in modern times?
 
What a frivolous peripheral issue to demand intellectual conformity on.

Surely you believe in unicorns don't you? God said unicorns exist.... So of course they did. Science just now caught up to this truth that has always been found in the bible. I think the NIV should admit that they were wrong for changing unicorn to wild ox in light of this latest scientific discovery.
 
Is it really ridiculous to believe that God gave us his pure inerrant word to read in modern times?

another cultist catch phrase they all say....notice how it attempts to place you under immediate condemnation....

It is like the devil...did God really say?
 

That's a good question.

Maybe Jesus was meeting Peter at the level he was at when the Lord spoke this to him. Peter had not been born again yet in order to have the "agape" love of God poured into our hearts by the Holy Spirit.

Peter did not possess the true "agape" of God at the time but will latter and the Holy Spirit would bring to Peter's remembrance the Lord's words spoken to him about "phileo" and "agape" love.

Perhaps the Lord was showing Peter he needed the love of God in him in order to do the things that he is called to do - like feed His sheep.

Romans 5:5 (NASB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] and hope does not disappoint, because the love ( agape ) of God has been poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us.

I believe it has to do with Peter denying Jesus 3 times. Jesus gave Peter 3 more chances to prove his love of Jesus... This time under much less dire consequences.
 
another cultist catch phrase they all say....notice how it attempts to place you under immediate condemnation....

It is like the devil...did God really say?

Another catch phrase that people who can't answer the question says lol. I ask a plain simple question, you can't answer it so you call me a cultist... Go figure! I thought this was a bible discussion forum where questions are posed and debate follows.... Not name calling. So sad. :(
 
Is it really ridiculous to believe that God gave us his pure inerrant word to read in modern times?

Nope....not at all..

2 Timothy 3:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;

[SUP]17 [/SUP] so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.

He does it for every language in the world when the manuscripts are translated into their language for them to discover Christ. The bible is a tool the Holy Spirit uses to reveal Christ to us and He does this in every language and in every time period throughout history.

He also gave us in this generation - seeing that most of us read - the capability to go and look at the original Greek and Hebrew as directed by the Holy Spirit when we are studying a passage.

I do not see any translation that is 100% accurate in all things. It is a "version" of what those group of translators think when they translated it. There can be a bias when translating because of their own personal religious beliefs or the denomination that they are affiliated with.

Many Greek words have multiple meanings which the one that the translator picked may or may not be what the Holy spirit is trying to tell us in a particular passage.

Anyway...I am out of this discussion as I have given my opinion and have nothing more to add that would be of any benefit.

Bless you...keep reading the word to see Jesus!
 
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This is just another way of saying....I know I am but what you are....
Come to full age and grow up....
What am I supposed to say dude? I believe what I believe from reading the bible. What answer are you're looking for me to give. I didn't meet an angel on the road, a spirit didn't download my believes into my mind, I didn't find glass plates with secret messages from God. I believe what I believe because of what I've read from the bible.
 
What am I supposed to say dude? I believe what I believe from reading the bible. What answer are you're looking for me to give. I didn't meet an angel on the road, a spirit didn't download my believes into my mind, I didn't find glass plates with secret messages from God. I believe what I believe because of what I've read from the bible.

Another trap, do not be baited folks...

PS: I am not your dude...
 
Nope....not at all..

2 Timothy 3:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;

[SUP]17 [/SUP] so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.

He does it for every language in the world when the manuscripts are translated into their language for them to discover Christ. The bible is a tool the Holy Spirit uses to reveal Christ to us and He does this in every language and in every time period throughout history.

He also gave us in this generation - seeing that most of us read - the capability to go and look at the original Greek and Hebrew as directed by the Holy Spirit.

I do not see any translation that is 100% accurate in all things. It is a "version" of what those group of translators think when they translated it. There can be a bias when translating because of their own personal religious beliefs or the denomination that they are affiliated with.

Many Greek words have multiple meanings which the one that the translator picked may or may not be what the Holy spirit is trying to tell us in a particular passage.

Anyway...I am out of this discussion as I have given my opinion and have nothing more to add that would be of any benefit.

Bless you...keep reading the word to see Jesus!

Fair enough, I won't comment if you're out of the discussion. :)
 
Seriously what answer are you looking for? Is there any answer that would be acceptable to you?

Yes, stop believing the Bible to be the infallible word of God. Be your own authority on what God has said. Search all the translations and Greek lexicons and you determine which words are right. You are absurd to think God can translate His words into another language perfectly and without error.
 
Wow I have been reading through these many posts.....and like just in my own life I have read many different versions of the bible and nowhere in God's Inerrant Word does it say that His ppl are only to read a certain version.