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GaryA
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Karraster
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Have you read about the new BAN on travel to the Antarctica? Yeah, these countries don't mind aiming missles at each other's populated areas, but we simply must protect the Antartic sea bass. And there are still those uninformed who purport we can travel to Anticartica anytime we want. Check that out people, that's only designated areas, cruises/fly overs, you can see what they want you to see...only the edge. Do your own research, don't take my word for it. Antarctic region to become the world's largest marine protected area | The Independent
That hilarious that some people think the earth is flat!
That's like believing there is not going to be a rapture of the faithful followers of Jesus Christ!
By Rapture do you mean a pre-trib rapture, or just some kind of resurrection when Jesus comes back?
that there is a ban on travel to Antarctica is an overt lie.
why are you producing such fruit?
it's very sad to see you being sucked into this delusion, Karraster.
setting up a nature reserve is not a ban on travel to the continent. if you actually read the article you linked, it says commercial fishing will be banned in a certain area. that's all.
you're becoming blind and deluded.
six different live streaming webcams from stations in Antarctica:
Antarctic webcams — Australian Antarctic Division
a seventh one from the south pole station:
https://www.usap.gov/videoclipsandmaps/spwebcam.cfm
seven more live-streaming webcams from Antarctica:
https://www.bas.ac.uk/data/our-data/images/webcams/
there are many permanent bases in Antarctica where research and science is constantly being carried out by people from many countries all across the globe.
if you want to go and you aren't a research scientist -- which is probably the best way to go for any extended period of time - you can take a cruise there, leaving from Chile usually.
http://www.coolantarctica.com/Travel/antarctica_travel_home.php
http://www.polarcruises.com/antarctica?mm_campaign=485D87F841FB2962CDAE4DA47CAA0F31&keyword=%2Btrip%20%2Bto%20%2Bantarctica&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=CPC&utm_campaign=Antarctica%20Trips%20-%20Discovery&gclid=CjwKEAiA0pDBBRCFtoPyguTh8AUSJADNWeuxeOrzs8cEwDLBXlWmp8OybX-c5QcjcBRiE5GPCu4qmRoCX3zw_wcB
https://www.expeditions.com/destinations/polar-regions/antarctica/itineraries/?gclid=CjwKEAiA0pDBBRCFtoPyguTh8AUSJADNWeuxIWHnHLduPousvxX9WvspktJXbtIDynI2UVo3T7ycVhoChTjw_wcB
many people go there every year. there are ikely tourists there as we speak.
a cursory internet search will turn up all kinds of info.
((inexplicable that you haven't bothered to do even the slightest bit of research into that, Karraster . . .?))
i read that it costs typically from 6,000 to $12,000 for a decent length vacation there.maybe i'll just do that.
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Posthuman,
If you were to go to Antarctica and watch their summer solstice, and then go to the arctic and watch our summer solstice, which is incontrovertible proof of a spherical earth, they would still not believe you.
I doubt if the FENers themselves could be convinced to make the trip, but even if they could do you think it would change their mind?
I think what we are dealing with here is people who have an agenda to discredit Christians, not people who are so deluded as to really believe in a flat earth.
Truth doesn't matter to them, only their agenda. They are working for antiChrist, not truth. One can never reason with the devil. It is pointless to try.
If they were sincerely deluded, I think they would consider what you have presented, if it is possible to reason with a deluded person. But, because of their attitudes and responses, I am dubious that that is what we are dealing with here.
Just my opinion. I am open to being proven wrong.
If you were to go to Antarctica and watch their summer solstice, and then go to the arctic and watch our summer solstice, which is incontrovertible proof of a spherical earth, they would still not believe you.
I doubt if the FENers themselves could be convinced to make the trip, but even if they could do you think it would change their mind?
I think what we are dealing with here is people who have an agenda to discredit Christians, not people who are so deluded as to really believe in a flat earth.
Truth doesn't matter to them, only their agenda. They are working for antiChrist, not truth. One can never reason with the devil. It is pointless to try.
If they were sincerely deluded, I think they would consider what you have presented, if it is possible to reason with a deluded person. But, because of their attitudes and responses, I am dubious that that is what we are dealing with here.
Just my opinion. I am open to being proven wrong.
Did you watch this video yet? If you do not want your conscience bothered, do not watch this video.
[video=youtube;8Wznf3k57fA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wznf3k57fA[/video]
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GaryA
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From your signature:
"Truth is available only to those who have the courage to question whatever they think they know."
Do you have the courage to question what you think you know?
I like the saying.
I have the courage.
Do you?
Anyone who is not even willing to watch the videos presented -- "with an open mind for [ at least ] learning and understanding" --- does not have the courage...
I test my beliefs all the time. That's why I am so sure of them. But that's not to say that I don't yield to a valid argument. Just did so again here recently. But valid is the key word.From your signature:
"Truth is available only to those who have the courage to question whatever they think they know."
Do you have the courage to question what you think you know?
I like the saying.
I have the courage.
Do you?
Anyone who is not even willing to watch the videos presented -- "with an open mind for [ at least ] learning and understanding" --- does not have the courage...
I've seen the videos and heard the arguments. But I've also traveled around this globe, several times. I have to ask just how far across your flat earth have you explored? Just reading a book isn't enough. You have to get out and explore. Experience teaches meaning and hones knowledge. Take nothing anyone presents you on face value. Get out and see for yourself.
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You can navigate east-west on both models. Who has traveled N-S or S-N and ended where they began? Who has flown over Antartica? Anyone? Say there are flights and cruises all day long, they prove nothing because they only get near, fly over the off shoots, not over.
In the name of Jesus, please carefully read all of the following.
To be completely honest, when I first read the flat earth position several months ago, I gave them an honest hearing. I listened to what they had to say and found all of their points to be invalid and based on faulty perception and false logic. I then reviewed what I already knew and thought further and found a lot more incontrovertible proof of a spherical earth in a heliocentric solar system.
I understand the dynamics of the spherical earth even better now than I did 6 months ago. It is clear to any rational person that the earth is a sphere.
I charge you in the name of the LORD Jesus Christ to either stop promoting what you know to be false or get the psycho-neurological help you need to overcome this delusional thinking, and in either case to come to Messiah Jesus (God's one and only human born Son, who died for YOU and rose again) for deliverance from this foolishness, and for a true and God honoring purpose for your life. I ask this in the Name of HE who rose from the dead, God's one and only human born Son, Yeshua Messiah.
To be completely honest, when I first read the flat earth position several months ago, I gave them an honest hearing. I listened to what they had to say and found all of their points to be invalid and based on faulty perception and false logic. I then reviewed what I already knew and thought further and found a lot more incontrovertible proof of a spherical earth in a heliocentric solar system.
I understand the dynamics of the spherical earth even better now than I did 6 months ago. It is clear to any rational person that the earth is a sphere.
I charge you in the name of the LORD Jesus Christ to either stop promoting what you know to be false or get the psycho-neurological help you need to overcome this delusional thinking, and in either case to come to Messiah Jesus (God's one and only human born Son, who died for YOU and rose again) for deliverance from this foolishness, and for a true and God honoring purpose for your life. I ask this in the Name of HE who rose from the dead, God's one and only human born Son, Yeshua Messiah.
From your signature:
"Truth is available only to those who have the courage to question whatever they think they know."
Do you have the courage to question what you think you know?
I like the saying.
I have the courage.
Do you?
Anyone who is not even willing to watch the videos presented -- "with an open mind for [ at least ] learning and understanding" --- does not have the courage...
Did you watch this video yet? If you do not want your conscience bothered, do not watch this video.
[video=youtube;8Wznf3k57fA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wznf3k57fA[/video]
I started to watch the video. It started out with some video from 100K feet or so claiming that that "proves" a flat earth. THAT VIDEO PROVES A SPHERICAL EARTH. To prove a flat earth you would be able to see the ends of the earth from that height. The video shows the earth curving away from the camera.
If the video is so deceptive at the very beginning, there is no reason to watch further.
WHAT"S MORE, YOUR VIDEO MESSED UP THE AUDIO OF MY COMPUTER AND I CAN'T REBOOT BECAUSE I AM WORKING WITH SOME VERY IMPORTANT ONLINE DATA FOR THE NEXT FEW HOURS.
May the LORD God judge between me and thee on this subject and correct the one in error on this flat earth subject and have the one who is wrong post an apology in this thread. In Jesus' name, amen.
If the video is so deceptive at the very beginning, there is no reason to watch further.
WHAT"S MORE, YOUR VIDEO MESSED UP THE AUDIO OF MY COMPUTER AND I CAN'T REBOOT BECAUSE I AM WORKING WITH SOME VERY IMPORTANT ONLINE DATA FOR THE NEXT FEW HOURS.
May the LORD God judge between me and thee on this subject and correct the one in error on this flat earth subject and have the one who is wrong post an apology in this thread. In Jesus' name, amen.
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GaryA
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"Man! I wish I could get a month off..." ( with pay, of course )
me too. post is very busy until December.
then i get almost a month off
i dunno what your commute time is, but part of my 15 hours some days involves driving 3 or 4 hours one way to get to a job site, audit for 6 to 8 hours, then drive back.
be careful, and make sure you get sleep.
I live 5 minutes from work. It's all actual work time ( what I mentioned before ) - except that [ what I mentioned before ] included eating meals.
Enjoy your time off...
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GaryA
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Perhaps it is either the ice wall or the concentric circles upon which the sun, moon, and stars travel:
Please also see post #245 in this thread.