What makes homosexuality so bad?

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maxwel

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lv2ski,

You seem like a good christian guy... my apology for retorting to you in public.

I sent you a pm.
Please feel free to speak your mind.

I mean, if you want to have a big public debate about methodology, and how to tell when we're just talking to trolls... and who is right and who is wrong... blah blah blah... that's fine, we can do that.

But you seem like a nice guy, and I'd prefer we take this to pm.

Please accept my apology if I offended you.
If you're willing to speak your mind in pm, I would prefer that.
 

blue_ladybug

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I see Maydanna got banned. I do hope she will come to the truth and return back to God..
 

wanderer6059

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I see Maydanna got banned. I do hope she will come to the truth and return back to God..
what the heck! where is that guy Oncefallen when you need him. why did she get banned, shes someone who is just lost and needs love, and people need to have some patience.
 

blue_ladybug

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Oncefallen is probably who banned her..lol.. I agree with you, but she was here under false pretenses, to deceive her friend into thinking she would give becoming a christian again some thought. She was also trying to push her belief that homosexuality is harmless. She honestly sees nothing wrong with being in a relationship with another woman. The spiritual harm she's doing to herself and her partner, is far worse than the defiling of her body. Hopefully she will return to her senses and get back to God before it's too late.. Oh, and we're not supposed to ask why a person gets banned. :)

what the heck! where is that guy Oncefallen when you need him. why did she get banned, shes someone who is just lost and needs love, and people need to have some patience.
 

wanderer6059

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well if you can see this MDD i'm gonna at least give you something to look into.

its a foundation in God, and to knowing Him. its 4 part; knowing the Father, knowing who you are in Him, knowing there is an enemy, and finally how to worship Him(or fellowship).

all from 5 verses in Matthew.

[h=1]Matthew 6:9-13King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]11 Give us this day our daily bread.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

this is how it breaks down.

the Father
Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
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[FONT=&quot]10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

John 14:7King James Version (KJV)
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[FONT=&quot]7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

Jesus is a clear example of the Father they bear the same name and image, look to the Gospels and see who He is, and His love for you.

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[h=1]1 John 3:1-2King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

when you know who He is you can start to see who you are in Him, you are His beautiful daughter. and He has done everything to reach you.

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[h=1]2 Corinthians 4:4King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

the devil is the enemy.
he comes to steal, kill, and destroy. he is the father of all lies and the one that leads the lost farther from Christ, once you know him, you can resist him.

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[h=1]1 John 1King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

once you see it all come together you will see the glory of God manifest in you life, you will see him move, you will walk with him in love. as He has always been he will always be with you sister. if you have a bible start with the Gospel of John ans see who He is and then go to the epistle to see who you are in Him sister.

i leave you with this.
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[h=1]2 Thessalonians 2:13-14King James Version (KJV)[/h][FONT=&quot]13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.[/FONT]
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wanderer6059

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Oncefallen is probably who banned her..lol.. I agree with you, but she was here under false pretenses, to deceive her friend into thinking she would give becoming a christian again some thought. She was also trying to push her belief that homosexuality is harmless. She honestly sees nothing wrong with being in a relationship with another woman. The spiritual harm she's doing to herself and her partner, is far worse than the defiling of her body. Hopefully she will return to her senses and get back to God before it's too late.. Oh, and we're not supposed to ask why a person gets banned. :)
shes lost unless she hears the love of God the Gospel of the Christ Jesus, nothing will change. i expect that from the world, but i expect us to do everything for even the one lost sheep to bring them back. not cast them out...
 

lv2ski

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I have nothing against others being Christian, I'm just not convinced.
So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Ro 10:17 NKJV
http://bible.com/114/rom.10.17.NKJV

If you read God's Word. That's the way you find truth, otherwise it's just all feelings and opinions, which is deception from your own heart.

“The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it?
Jer 17:9 NKJV

There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death.
Pr 14:12 NKJV
http://bible.com/114/pro.14.12.NKJV
http://bible.com/114/jer.17.9.NKJV
 
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shes lost unless she hears the love of God the Gospel of the Christ Jesus, nothing will change. i expect that from the world, but i expect us to do everything for even the one lost sheep to bring them back. not cast them out...
Well I'm back with permission from an administrator and I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm simply enjoying some friendly debate and I was just about to answer a question. I'm willing to listen, if I was being too offensive I'm sorry I'll try not to be. I am a homosexual but i have no agenda.
 
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shes lost unless she hears the love of God the Gospel of the Christ Jesus, nothing will change. i expect that from the world, but i expect us to do everything for even the one lost sheep to bring them back. not cast them out...
I'm back, someone else realized I never talked badly about Christianity, just certain people. I hope the give the trigger happy person that did it a talking to.
 

wanderer6059

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I'm back, someone else realized I never talked badly about Christianity, just certain people. I hope the give the trigger happy person that did it a talking to.
Christian can be some of the most offensive people who are overly offended. plus they seem to forget how the world works once they get saved, of if they grow up in the church lol
 
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Oncefallen is probably who banned her..lol.. I agree with you, but she was here under false pretenses, to deceive her friend into thinking she would give becoming a christian again some thought. She was also trying to push her belief that homosexuality is harmless. She honestly sees nothing wrong with being in a relationship with another woman. The spiritual harm she's doing to herself and her partner, is far worse than the defiling of her body. Hopefully she will return to her senses and get back to God before it's too late.. Oh, and we're not supposed to ask why a person gets banned. :)
I'm back, and thank you. I'm sure someone was just trigger happyXD
 

wanderer6059

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that what i mean^^^

Christian can be some of the most offensive people who are overly offended.
 
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So... out of curiosity, why do you think you are attracted to women, and not men? Any ideas at all, or was it just "always that way" ?

Please don't be defensive, I'm just curious... if you'd rather not answer, no problem.

I'm not angry I just wanted to write a good responce, hornetguy. Let's see.... I hope this isn't too graphic, but to a dude sex is: Get erection, put it in something, finish and relax.

I've never really had sex, but I think I'd prefer not to do it with a ticking time bomb.

Because lets admit it, studies show that most men are done before a woman even orgasms. Even if she communicates she's not quite 'done' most men will continue but half heartedly, some will just say they're too tired.
(if this is too graphic I can change the wording.)
Lets see, guys don't shave body hair.

Guys don't pull off chubby like women can.

If I was with a man he'd probably feel inclined to be the one who opens my door, and makes the first move and I'd be socially inclined to let him. This is personal preference I have nothing against men or women who are heterosexual, but if was in a relationship with a woman and I was the less dominant one, it wouldn't bother me, because its obviously mine and her conscious or unconscious choice. Not something society pushed on us.

Now without the dynamic of man and women, both different but together we'd be in quite a predicament. But having some same sex couples on the side takes nothing from the heterosexual majority.

For the minority of people who are attracted to the same sex, well I think the mental difference between man and women explains it.
While for the average couple the difference between man and woman works for good.

However for a homosexual the different behavior of opposite sex partner is baffling and uncomfortable because of how they're partner can't quite get them. The attraction to different traits is not found in them. Men and women are wired differently in the brain, so of course there are noticeable differences in behaviour. These difference cause stress for those who's minds (for whatever reason) doesn't find them compelling or even a likeable or comforting difference.

Most homosexual men like befriending women

And for the lesbians who aren't simply gay because of a hatred of men, they also tend to have male friends.

When a man and a woman are friends (both heterosexual) there's often a tension because they are of the sex they find attractive. This makes close contact they'd call friendly with someone of the same sex seem awkward or even wrong.

For homosexuals, they don't get that tension with the opposite sex but with the same one.

A lesbian probably isn't uncomfortable about wrestling a man for the last piece of pizza.

A Gay man probably isn't uncomfortable about giggling, watching romance movies and sharing deep thoughts with a woman, it doesn't get awkward because there's no sexual or romantic attraction.

I hope this helps you understand. I'm not trying to make you believe being gay is good or even okay but I hope you can understand more about the reason some people are attracted to the same sex.
 
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jsr1221

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God gave Adam Eve so he wouldn't be alone. I think it kind of speaks for itself. However, there are many things that go with homosexuality. Someone was exposed to some sort of sexuality at an early age generally. It used to be classified as a mental disorder, also. Homosexuality is no different than something like pride or having the inability to control anger, though.
 

blue_ladybug

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I will never understand how men can be attracted to men, and women to women. I'd much rather have a man, personally.. Ya know, cuz it's the natural order of things.. lol