yeah you got it, here is the course list you should have clicked on...
http://www.rbtc.org/PDFs/Course_Descriptions.pdf
the prof you have to email i guess for a list of names, thats what admin said.
but for the classes, look ate the bible studies classes. and btw you don't need a Ph.D to teach the missions class of basic life class. the missions classes are taught by men and women who have been in that field or have the necessary skills for the job. and the classes on finance are taught by a man with a degree in accounting and hes the one who manages the church finances. they teach the biblical and practical approach to ministry.
but hey go ahead and avoid the context in my post, its sad because if you were actually right you would take my post and pick apart the scripture i used. but since your wrong and can't you attack my school, good job just like the Baptist you are...
"By the way, my Seminary was Baptist"
your words, part of a denomination that screams on street corners as people go by that God hates them and there going to hell. protesting funerals of soldiers.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/military-funeral-protests/
thats the kind of person you are, it shows in your post! and i guess you are probably OSAS so you think you can act however you feel! is that right, or am i taking things out of context on your denominational views? and i judging you on a few extreme instances?
http://www.rbtc.org/PDFs/Course_Descriptions.pdf
the prof you have to email i guess for a list of names, thats what admin said.
but for the classes, look ate the bible studies classes. and btw you don't need a Ph.D to teach the missions class of basic life class. the missions classes are taught by men and women who have been in that field or have the necessary skills for the job. and the classes on finance are taught by a man with a degree in accounting and hes the one who manages the church finances. they teach the biblical and practical approach to ministry.
but hey go ahead and avoid the context in my post, its sad because if you were actually right you would take my post and pick apart the scripture i used. but since your wrong and can't you attack my school, good job just like the Baptist you are...
"By the way, my Seminary was Baptist"
your words, part of a denomination that screams on street corners as people go by that God hates them and there going to hell. protesting funerals of soldiers.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/military-funeral-protests/
thats the kind of person you are, it shows in your post! and i guess you are probably OSAS so you think you can act however you feel! is that right, or am i taking things out of context on your denominational views? and i judging you on a few extreme instances?
its cause our classes actually have context more than you think, people smarter than you have seen that.
then why are you putting all WoF people in the same category? i just had to wait for you to post one of your denomination, bring up an extremist in it, compare you to it, and wait for your response like this. and of course you walked into it Bluto. i even tacked it onto a legit post to make sure you got it.
i could put that to you, in your own words for all the post you have put. lumping us all in to PG or name it claim it or any other extreme that came out of WoF.
you stepped right into that Bluto...
i could put that to you, in your own words for all the post you have put. lumping us all in to PG or name it claim it or any other extreme that came out of WoF.
you stepped right into that Bluto...
First, I did click on your link, before you posted it here. I downloaded the PDF and read it all. I saw courses in theology about "Angels and Demons" and "Dispensationalism".
Angels and demons do not constitute an semester long course. That really shocked me that people would waste time on this sort of Angelogy, when there is so much to actually learn about God, salvation and the Bible.
Learning about Dispensationalism is fine. Lots of people I know believe that, although I disagree for strong biblical reasons. In fact, we studied it in our unit on eschatology. But we also studied the three other options, and read things written by people with that viewpoint. I had one prof who was classical pre-mill, pre-trib eschatology,and another who was Partial Preterist/Amill. They both said they believed what they felt was the Biblical solution, but we needed to search the Word and pray.
It was so nice not being judged as a heretic because I was amill. And really informative to read the different viewpoints, right up to and including superlapsarianism. LOL! And in the end of theology, another professor did an interesting video, explaining each of the 4 eschatological views, and the Scriptures that supported it, and which scholars favoured each view. Then a comparison chart. That is being educated and being taught how to discern the truth. Again, I have no problem with other viewpoints, as long as they have been well researched, and prayed about. As for eschatology, I remember a fellow student, one with an incredible calling by God said "After all, eschatology is just an educated guess, in the end!" Although not other doctrines, I admit.
And that is what a real Bible education, at any level, should do for you. It should not be indoctrinating, but rather showing all the options, and encouraging the students to dig deep research and pray for God to show them the truth. And so, unless you have courses which equally talk about the other viewpoints, including classical premillennialism, which is a little more sound exegetically, then you have been indoctrinated.
Again, the big lack was Biblical languages. Of course, this being a college, and more interested in diplomas, it is to be expected that Greek and Hebrew will not be taught and that is ok. What is not ok, Wanderer is presenting yourself as someone who knows Greek, when in fact you are doing internet concordance copy and pastes. I am interested to hear your viewpoints, (although less so in light of the fact that you still have not responded to my OP!), but not English back to Greek Strong's. Of course, you are free to post those things, but just don't make yourself out to be a Biblical scholar, when you do not have the background to be a Biblical scholar, which is a lot more than just Biblical languages.
I did like the huge number of book courses, although in the 3 seminaries I attended (some for transfer credit) a book study was the last thing most seminaries present, unless they were done in the Biblical language. We did those in my seminary, but they were not on-line, so I could not attend them.
And pardon me wanderer for thinking you went to Rhema, when in fact, you were just taking transfer courses. I agree with Bluto, kind of shocked a Wesleyan college would accept credits from Rhema. Of course, that may just be certain courses.
@Bluto - As for the accreditation, I also saw that, and read about it. I was pleased there are checks and balances, especially regarding finances, although I don't recognize the governing authority, the point is there is one. So good for that!
As for being Baptist, you really show your ignorance of the wide range of churches and conventions using that label. To be truthful, the history of "baptists" is that we are not subject to any governing body, nor their sanctionis for or against. Of course that includes independent fundamentalists like Westboro, which is closer to a cult than being an independent Baptist church from what I have read. As for the Southern Baptist, after the ultra conservative take over of the denomination in the 1990's many people left. Texas formed their own state convention and have an excellent theological school, just finishing off its accreditation. I hope to do a Ph.D there, should my health stay stable.
Canadian Baptists are very different, even the Southern Baptist one! I have been in three denomination, and I am looking into transferring my ordination to the one I am attending. Is it perfect? Nope! I do feel it is sliding a bit too far to the left, and I guess that would be another reason to get involved, to keep that fine line from moving downslope. Different conventions emphasize different aspects of Scripture, which is why there are so many.
And I did specifically say we had people from every denomination in Canada in our seminary. And that is true of other Seminaries. There really aren't a lot of seminaries left, and as long as they are accredited, there is no reason people can't attend a Baptist, or Lutheran or Mennonite etc. Seminary.
As for ministry, that really is the purpose of seminary. The courses like Biblilcal languages, Survey Courses, Biblical backgrounds are tools for ministry. I didn't figure that our for a while! And do I appreciate those tools. God has led me to a church, where I am part of the teaching team, and when God calls, he shows me the way, using what I have learned.
As for missions qualifications, our evangelism and missions courses were taught by former missionaries. The mission prof was in China for many years, and today he helps out in a Mandarin church. He said that the women do all the preaching, which is cultural, despite this was a Southern Baptist church plant, and they do not believe in woman preachers. Of course, besides years of missions works, he has a Ph.D The evangelism professor had been a missionary in Hungary for many years. But she only had a MDiv. And had to go back to seminary to get her Ph.D to teach it. Because that is what ATS demands!
Unfortunately for WoF, too many televangelists have tarnished the name badly. However, as I have shown in post after post, there really is no basis for this claiming total healing. And I can also dealing with the "wealth" side if anyone wants, but maybe in another thread?
Anyway, any institute of higher learning that I have been to the profs and where they studies are always listed on the website. And of course you are Arminian, that is normal for most Pentecostals! I was before I started reading the Bible. Although, I certainly and firmly believe that obedience MUST follow salvation, or was that person really saved? But that is another thread, something debated endlessly in the past.
As for you countering my OP, especially the stuff about Isa. 53. I have yet to see it. And please do stop with the insults. I started this thread specifically to talk about the Bible.I have tried to analyze the Scriptures posted in favour of WoF but I confess, a page full of assorted and unrelated verses is not what I was talking about. I was talking about exegetical dialogues. Just as no one has addressed my verses, particularly Isa. 53 not being in the atonement, don't expect me to counter every 7 words someone posts. I will address major issues, but only with people who have geniunely addressed my OP. Which right now, is no one.