Tongues Again???

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I did no task you if you are above correction I asked you if you have ever been in error?
the term tongue talking was just away of saying I preach the full bible :) and believe the gifts are for today all of them and biblical
 
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As the Bible says......

'.....a fool convinced against his will is of the same opinion still......'
 

CS1

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As the Bible says......

'.....a fool convinced against his will is of the same opinion still......'
really could you provide me the book, chapter and verse please CoooCaw?
 

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Does the Gospel you (any you) believe include resurrection power?

Php 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
Php 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
Php 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Php 3:11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
 

notuptome

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I did not ask you if you are above correction I asked you if you have ever been in error?
Biblically probably not. A little tweak here and there but I've been at this for a long time. I have been blessed to be in a good fundamental bible church for a long time. Don't mean to brag but I have been blessed to hear great men of God exposit the word of God for many years.

How about you?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

notuptome

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the term tongue talking was just away of saying I preach the full bible :) and believe the gifts are for today all of them and biblical
Sometime you ought to provide specific teaching that supports your belief that tongues are for today. It would be especially helpful if you could define what are biblical tongues in contrast to non-biblical tongues.

I believe that according to 1 Cor 13:8 the apostolic tongues, prophecy and knowledge ended. You probably already know that since I've been saying it over and over again for some period of time.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

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the gift of tongues is still given today, we speak of what we witness and despite what others may believe it changes nothing, there is not biblical text (properly applied) that teaches any of those gifts have ceased.
 
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I've dealt with this seemingly dozens of times, & am about to do it again.

What years did the charismatic movement come out of the catholic church? The 60's

What years generally did televangelism come out? You guessed it..... the 60's

Why? In order to usher in the universal one-world church & get everyone to join, one must either first destroy the true church, or destroy its credibility to make people leave it.

Which big-name preacher DOESN'T put the Pentecostals & charismatics in the same group & condemn them all in one sweep?
John MacArthur's strange fire books & conferences come to mind.

WHICH televangelist DOESN'T use Pentecostal & charismatic phraseology interchangebly? Which one of them DON'T claim to be both Pentecostal & charismatic while acting charismatic?

Even Wikipedia says they're separate things..... Pentecostals are a religion while charismatics are in a movement.

Do Pentecostals act like charismatics? Some do, for like all the other denominations they're caught up in it.

WHY do you think these things had their starts in the 60's about the same time? WHY IS IT the Pentecostals are being infiltrated by both charismatics & televangelists at the same time? Must I ask who's on the OTHER side?


While the Pentecostal church gets infiltrated with these, other churches gets infiltrated with Freemasons.
 
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[video=youtube;5gueRysAb0M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gueRysAb0M[/video]

How To Spot Fake Tongues

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We all know there are fakers out there but to try and lump everyone in the same category and say all tongues is fake is just plain stupid. Taking the word of God and deceitfully using it like you and others are doing by saying the spiritual gifts have ended is also faking it. Whether you people use their own language or a fake tongue doesn't matter...blasphemy is blasphemy. So yeah the fakers are guilty, but so are the ones trying to appease themselves and say that tongues are fake just because their not willing and don't have faith. They are both just as guilty of blasphemy.

Like someone said on here we can use the word of God to tell when someone is faking it...we that are spiritual don't need some silly videos to enlighten us... we have the word and the Spirit of God for guidance.
 

notuptome

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I've dealt with this seemingly dozens of times, & am about to do it again.

What years did the charismatic movement come out of the catholic church? The 60's

What years generally did televangelism come out? You guessed it..... the 60's

Why? In order to usher in the universal one-world church & get everyone to join, one must either first destroy the true church, or destroy its credibility to make people leave it.

Which big-name preacher DOESN'T put the Pentecostals & charismatics in the same group & condemn them all in one sweep?
John MacArthur's strange fire books & conferences come to mind.

WHICH televangelist DOESN'T use Pentecostal & charismatic phraseology interchangebly? Which one of them DON'T claim to be both Pentecostal & charismatic while acting charismatic?

Even Wikipedia says they're separate things..... Pentecostals are a religion while charismatics are in a movement.

Do Pentecostals act like charismatics? Some do, for like all the other denominations they're caught up in it.

WHY do you think these things had their starts in the 60's about the same time? WHY IS IT the Pentecostals are being infiltrated by both charismatics & televangelists at the same time? Must I ask who's on the OTHER side?


While the Pentecostal church gets infiltrated with these, other churches gets infiltrated with Freemasons.
Uh you came out of the 60's as well. How freaky is that?

Peace love Woodstock. LSD and better living through chemistry. Vietnam, Kennedy, Johnson wow what a conspiracy.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

zone

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We all know there are fakers out there but to try and lump everyone in the same category and say all tongues is fake is just plain stupid. Taking the word of God and deceitfully using it like you and others are doing by saying the spiritual gifts have ended is also faking it. Whether you people use their own language or a fake tongue doesn't matter...blasphemy is blasphemy. So yeah the fakers are guilty, but so are the ones trying to appease themselves and say that tongues are fake just because their not willing and don't have faith. They are both just as guilty of blasphemy.

Like someone said on here we can use the word of God to tell when someone is faking it...we that are spiritual don't need some silly videos to enlighten us... we have the word and the Spirit of God for guidance.
blah dee blah.
the biblical gift of languages ceased.
tongues today is nothing like the biblical gift.
 

zone

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....we that are spiritual don't need some silly videos to enlighten us... we have the word and the Spirit of God for guidance.
cough cough.
oooooooooooh tongue talkers are super-dee-duper spiritual.
that's evident from the videos (you don't need to look at:rolleyes:)
 

1ofthem

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blah dee blah.
the biblical gift of languages ceased.
tongues today is nothing like the biblical gift.
Seriously though, you have no idea what you are even of talking about.
Tongues today is nothing like the biblical gift, huh? You sure about that one? Apparently you have never heard or been around the genuine gift of speaking in tongues...If you have then I guess you just chose to keep those darkly covered spiritual blinders on...

You can't just google it honey....It's spiritually discerned...You gotta pray it out... you can't find it on youtube... but you can find it in the word of God..
 

1ofthem

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cough cough.
oooooooooooh tongue talkers are super-dee-duper spiritual.
that's evident from the videos (you don't need to look at:rolleyes:)
Once again you can't find it on youtube...the videos proves nothing, but the fact that there are fakers out there trying to deceive others...there's many fakers out there preaching the word of God and it's not just tongue talkers....but just because their fake it still don't take away the fact that God is real and the same thing goes for speaking in tongues.
 

notuptome

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Seriously though, you have no idea what you are even of talking about.
Tongues today is nothing like the biblical gift, huh? You sure about that one? Apparently you have never heard or been around the genuine gift of speaking in tongues...If you have then I guess you just chose to keep those darkly covered spiritual blinders on...

You can't just google it honey....It's spiritually discerned...You gotta pray it out... you can't find it on youtube... but you can find it in the word of God..
Well you may feel at liberty to demonstrate from the scriptures how your tongues align themselves with the tongues evidenced by the disciples and apostles in the NT.

Are there different sects of tongues? One sect speaking human languages and another sect speaking in angelic tongues while another just speaks in ecstatic utterances that are unknowable. Do you speak a different tongue every time you speak or do you stick to just one tongue?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

1ofthem

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Well you may feel at liberty to demonstrate from the scriptures how your tongues align themselves with the tongues evidenced by the disciples and apostles in the NT.

Are there different sects of tongues? One sect speaking human languages and another sect speaking in angelic tongues while another just speaks in ecstatic utterances that are unknowable. Do you speak a different tongue every time you speak or do you stick to just one tongue?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
It aligns perfectly with the scriptures. It is from the Spirit of God. The genuine gift is not something anyone can manipulate...you can't learn how to speak it or come up with the words on your own. You can't just chose to say or use whatever tongue that you want...it is a spiritual language and it is operated by the Holy Ghost...not by people.
 

notuptome

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It aligns perfectly with the scriptures. It is from the Spirit of God. The genuine gift is not something anyone can manipulate...you can't learn how to speak it or come up with the words on your own. You can't just chose to say or use whatever tongue that you want...it is a spiritual language and it is operated by the Holy Ghost...not by people.
This is a classic non-answer. I'm asking for scripture and a clarification on what you have determined to be actual biblical tongues. Are they human languages or angelic languages or are they ecstatic utterances? do you know or do you care?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

zone

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Seriously though, you have no idea what you are even of talking about.
Tongues today is nothing like the biblical gift, huh? You sure about that one? Apparently you have never heard or been around the genuine gift of speaking in tongues...If you have then I guess you just chose to keep those darkly covered spiritual blinders on...

You can't just google it honey....It's spiritually discerned...You gotta pray it out... you can't find it on youtube... but you can find it in the word of God..
ya, been around it in person...watched it for years and years.
all fakers.
not only is it evident just by watching, the supernatural gift of languages ceased.
done, over, today's wagglers are phonies.
no I don't have to "pray it out". the wagglers have to pray for deliverance.