666 = Carbon

InSpiritInTruth · Dec 25, 2016

1 Timothy 6:20
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

stonesoffire · Dec 25, 2016

posthuman said:

I wouldn't think so. That sounds more like what the JW's say, that He is a force. He is a personality. But, His touch could be like electricity.. don't ask me how I know. I would insert a smile here but I lose my whole post when I try.

Where did you hear that Post..

posthuman · Dec 25, 2016

"science, falsely so called"

now there's an out-of-context turn of phrase easily twisted to suit any mans private purpose, if there ever was one.

the Word is a sword with two edges, yes

stonesoffire · Dec 25, 2016

posthuman said:

Its why I look at the greek. Or even more info if needed.

stonesoffire · Dec 25, 2016

InSpiritInTruth said:

Sarcasm noted.

posthuman · Dec 25, 2016

stonesoffire said:

Base12's website.

http://www.mostholyplace.com/book-02_chapter-d02.html

stonesoffire · Dec 25, 2016

Later all...Merry Christmas!

Base is a deep thinker. Not all like to think this way. Just like I like symbols. Not all like this either.

posthuman · Dec 25, 2016

stonesoffire said:

it's just my honest opinion, but i think he tends to get lost looking for metaphors and poorly-aligned analogies, so much that he doesn't see anything spiritual at all -- only an insane simalcrum in the natural world, which itself he treats as "spiritual." it's the sort of thing that is a gnosticism waiting to happen ((as though it hasn't already)), or a man who spends all his substance trying to become one with God by means of tesla coils and magnetism. symbols aren't reality. they are pointers toward reality.

God's fingerprints are all over the universe, for sure. but He is spirit, and the universe is not.

inorganic matter isn't any more holy than organic matter. every element will be dissolved - even this mans precious hydrogen and nitrogen - and all things will be made new.

don't get me wrong; i like madmen just as much as the next guy. but i would like to see more actual hard science, more than a person who hasn't ever stepped foot out of the philosophy building comprehends, and recognizance that the kingdom is not of this world.

KJV1611 · Dec 25, 2016

I like what you're dong base12, I think those things, especially about the cell, are cool. I just see a couple of things you said that are a little off from what the bible teaches but most of it is good stuff.

InSpiritInTruth · Dec 25, 2016

posthuman said:

Yes, and all the "anointed" saints have it, and also know how to use it.

InSpiritInTruth · Dec 25, 2016

stonesoffire said:

I believe Paul was being serious, as was I.

Angela53510 · Dec 25, 2016

Back to the title, and hermeneutics -- the way we interpret the Bible.

The first rule of making doctrine, is never use only one Scripture. There is only one verse that applies concerning your ridiculous and idle speculation.

"Here is wisdom Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.". Rev. 13:8

In the earliest manuscripts, this number was 616, which you get when you add up the numbers of Nero's name. This entire scenario was about Nero persecuting the Christians and starting over 300 years of persecution. It is not about our time. But even if it was, for some unknown reason, it would still not be enough to create a doctrine around such as you have done.

The second thing you have torn verses out of context. Rev. Is a very difficult book to read, with variations on interpretation being as high and wide and long as the sky. Until you have some basic courses on hermeneutics, you need to stop this strange application of the Bible to conform with your made up speculation.

Another thing, since you have persisted in joining the occult, images and other nonsense together that don't belong together, I hope you will take this without malice. Because this kind of paranoid conspiracy nonsense, is generally associated with psychosis from mental illness. I have looked at some of your posts and you throw things together without rhyme or reason. Plus, this kind of gematria, can also be attributed to a form of psychosis or at least mild psychosis. I don't say this to be mean, just what I have learned and observed in working with the mentally ill. So psychiatric help might be in order. You might find that if you got rid of the psychosis, these delusions would become obvious nonsense to you, as it is to most of the rest of us in this forum.

I think, finally, that what bothers me most about this thread, is you have in no way lifted up or exalted Christ. You have not spoken of your relationship with Jesus, nor the work of the Holy Spirit in your life. Please spend some time in the gospels, getting to know Jesus Christ better. And try not to make connections where there are none.

tanakh · Dec 26, 2016

EEK The Midwhich Cuckoos are on the march!! For the uninitiated they are characters in a Science Fiction novel by the late John Wyndom of Triffid fame that was made into a film. Women in a place called Midwhich were impregnated by Aliens and their children were very weird.

Seriously this is a load of baloney all life as far as we know is carbon based does that mean it all has the mark of the beast? Most of it doesn't have a forehead or hands and no concept of buying or selling. Still I will keep a closer watch on my Moggies in future just in case.

hornetguy · Dec 26, 2016

I'm so glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read that line....

CLASSIC.... You should make that your signature....

hornetguy · Dec 26, 2016

Angela53510 said:

Back to the title, and hermeneutics -- the way we interpret the Bible.

The first rule of making doctrine, is never use only one Scripture. There is only one verse that applies concerning your ridiculous and idle speculation.

"Here is wisdom Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.". Rev. 13:8

In the earliest manuscripts, this number was 616, which you get when you add up the numbers of Nero's name. This entire scenario was about Nero persecuting the Christians and starting over 300 years of persecution. It is not about our time. But even if it was, for some unknown reason, it would still not be enough to create a doctrine around such as you have done.

The second thing you have torn verses out of context. Rev. Is a very difficult book to read, with variations on interpretation being as high and wide and long as the sky. Until you have some basic courses on hermeneutics, you need to stop this strange application of the Bible to conform with your made up speculation.

Another thing, since you have persisted in joining the occult, images and other nonsense together that don't belong together, I hope you will take this without malice. Because this kind of paranoid conspiracy nonsense, is generally associated with psychosis from mental illness. I have looked at some of your posts and you throw things together without rhyme or reason. Plus, this kind of gematria, can also be attributed to a form of psychosis or at least mild psychosis. I don't say this to be mean, just what I have learned and observed in working with the mentally ill. So psychiatric help might be in order. You might find that if you got rid of the psychosis, these delusions would become obvious nonsense to you, as it is to most of the rest of us in this forum.

I think, finally, that what bothers me most about this thread, is you have in no way lifted up or exalted Christ. You have not spoken of your relationship with Jesus, nor the work of the Holy Spirit in your life. Please spend some time in the gospels, getting to know Jesus Christ better. And try not to make connections where there are none.

I tried to rep you, too, Angela, but I have to "spread it around" some.... You and Post and Tanakh are a welcome breath of fresh air in this very strange and convoluted thread.

Y'all said it much better than I could... I've been trying to think of a way to say what I have been wanting to say to all this.... stuff, without just coming out and saying "Are you NUTS?".... Thank you all for making it unnecessary for me to do that.

Word_Swordsman · Dec 26, 2016

Base12 said:

Another reason the number 666 is a poor choice to represent the element carbon is the element itself is very unstable chemically, able to readily combine with many other elements to form compounds called allotropes. The human body is composed of about 65% oxygen, (carbon 16%) so carbon can't exist as a pure element on account of the presence of O. The only way it could be a pure element atom is if no other elements are present. It would be impossible for the Beast to be 100% C while on earth around the other elements. If any emphasis should be put on any element in any organism, it ought to be the most common one.

To receive a mark given by someone is highly probable to involve a simple tattoo. Those marks typically represent some statement, so in the case of the Beast's mark, I would look for a tattoo of the face of the Beast, without which there is no buying or selling. For those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life, consider they could be shown, like for Elijah, by the angels where to find a stream of good water, a shade tree, maybe some fruit, and birds bringing meat from the Beast's own table. Also, the deal is no buying or selling. That should simply mean having to find alternatives to survival.

garee · Dec 26, 2016

Sounds like a drama prepared for TV.

The Kingdom of God does not come by observation. Christ the Holy Spirit of God said of his own temporal flesh it could never profit.

It is not a literal mark we walk by faith not by sight. It was the Jews that required a sign before they would believe God.

Six is the number of man, the beast of the field (unconverted man) three as it is used over and over simply denoted the end of the matter.

What kind of a hint we know God is not a man as us? .Look for the spiritual meaning hid in that parable.We compare the spiritual understanding (not seen) to the same spiritual .

The hand of God represents the will of God, the forehead is the place where. He brings all things to our mind as to what he does teach us. We therefore have the mind of Christ (not seen)

Psa 94:19 In the multitude of my thoughts within me thy comforts delight my soul.

God is not a man as us search for the spiritual meaning of that parable you offered .

The feature of the beast is that he has flesh and blood. It will not enter the kingdom of God .

garee · Dec 26, 2016

We walk by faith not by sight.

The buying and selling has to do with spiritual truth. We are not to sell it.

It has nothing to do with feeding these bodies of death. When he comes like thief in the night .It will be just like in the time of Noah buying and selling, marrying etc..

Pro 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

The face of the beast (the antichrist) or faces (antichrists) which were already there when the new testament was penned is identified by the MO of the antichrist Satan

Those who insist we need a man to teach us.They I believe fail to distinguish the things of God as those of men.

A god demonstration of one of the antichrists in action who again were already there is found in Mathew 16;

Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.Mat 16:22

KJV1611 · Dec 26, 2016

Angela53510 said:

Back to the title, and hermeneutics -- the way we interpret the Bible.

The first rule of making doctrine, is never use only one Scripture. There is only one verse that applies concerning your ridiculous and idle speculation.

"Here is wisdom Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.". Rev. 13:8

In the earliest manuscripts, this number was 616, which you get when you add up the numbers of Nero's name. This entire scenario was about Nero persecuting the Christians and starting over 300 years of persecution. It is not about our time. But even if it was, for some unknown reason, it would still not be enough to create a doctrine around such as you have done.

I hope you will take this without malice as well. How can you be so sure the entire senario is about Nero when you don't even know WHICH number to use?

eternally-gratefull · Dec 26, 2016

FallingAway said:

How do you suggest they do that?

Cater to the scientific world?

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