Dualism, the doctrine of a disassociated identity

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KJV - ISIT standing for not continuing in sin is a christian theological position.
Read Heb & 1 John. This is not false teaching.

Now for instance I have against you that you deny the Holocaust which is a massive
moral issue. It makes me wonder what is morality in your book.

If I had a choice between a Holocaust denier and a man who stood for walking in righteousness
I would choose every time a person walking in righteousness.

The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous
The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning.
1 John 3:7-8

If one is defending continuing in sin, wilful sin, you are not being biblical.
It would not surprise me that a lot of what we are calling believers are religious folk
who are convicted Jesus is real, but do not see it reflected in their lives.

This is where real humbling and repentance comes in, not trying to justify ones sin
and tearing down someone holding for righteousness. That is rebellion against Christ.

Take the plank out of your own eye, and when God has purified your soul you will be
able to help your brother with their speck.
You're also the person who THREATENED me with BODILY HARM because I didn't agree with you about the holocaust.
 

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You're also the person who THREATENED me with BODILY HARM because I didn't agree with you about the holocaust.
now how could that happen?? he doesn't sin!!

hey, you and I have a different thought on the KJV Bible, but you have a sound theology brother!
 
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now how could that happen?? he doesn't sin!!

hey, you and I have a different thought on the KJV Bible, but you have a sound theology brother!
Thank you brother let's not let the bible is issue divide us because I feel the same about your theology.:)
 
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You don't preach the words of God, but rather your twisted flavor of the words of God......Pharisee-ism and sinless perfectionism mixed with religious works because Jesus is not good enough......many see the subtle way you pervert the gospel.......your time will come......make no mistake about it..........!
And you a liar, as demonstrated in your above post. :)
 
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Is everything Paul talks about from the manner of men perspective? When does Paul stop speaking after the manner of men?
The manner of men is the manner of the scarlet beast=natural brute beasts, in the flesh, carnally minded and still under the law of sin and death.
 
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The children who walk after the flesh being of the Wicked are the serpents seed.
These verses seem to be pointing the LEGALIST PHARISEES doesn't it?

Matthew 23:33-36 KJV
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
[34] Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
[35] That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
[36] Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
 
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The manner of men is the manner of the scarlet beast=natural brute beasts, in the flesh, carnally minded and still under the law of sin and death.
When did Paul stop tallking after the manner of men in Romans? Do you know difinitively?
 
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You're also the person who THREATENED me with BODILY HARM because I didn't agree with you about the holocaust.
It is hard to say how bad the holocaust is as an issue.
If you understand this is the shame of our society and culture that
for 100 years we believed would never happen.

It showed civilisation means nothing, if you do not oppose the ideas.
 
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It is hard to say how bad the holocaust is as an issue.
If you understand this is the shame of our society and culture that
for 100 years we believed would never happen.

It showed civilisation means nothing, if you do not oppose the ideas.
The holocaust has nothing to do with you threatening me, that reveals YOUR heart.
 
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These verses seem to be pointing the LEGALIST PHARISEES doesn't it?

Matthew 23:33-36 KJV
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
[34] Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
[35] That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
[36] Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
I agree...reading scripture in context is always a good thing. Reading all scripture through the finished work of Christ is the only way to understand other scriptures.

Here is a scripture that says that if anyone who has ever sinned against God will be blotted out of the book. This means that all of us have been blotted out of God's book for who has not ever sinned? No one.

I could have a "pet doctrine" that says - "If anyone has ever sinned - you are blotted out of God's book".

These are God's words and if you disagree with me - you are against God and thus a serpent, wicked, a liar, reprobate, not born-again, a child of the devil.

Exodus 32:33 (NASB)
[SUP]33 [/SUP] The LORD said to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book.


This is a true statement but it is not the ultimate statement of truth because what Christ did on the cross and resurrection trumps this truth.

Works-based salvationists mindsets will always stumble at the preaching of Christ and His finished work of salvation for us.

Everything in the scriptures is truly stated but not everything is a statement of ultimate truth.

We need to filter all scripture through the clear scriptures of the salvation that is in Christ because of His grace through faith in what Jesus has already done for us.
 
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I agree...reading scripture in context is always a good thing. Reading all scripture through the finished work of Christ is the only way to understand other scriptures.

Here is a scripture that says that if anyone who has ever sinned against God will be blotted out of the book. This means that all of us have been blotted out of God's book for who has not ever sinned? No one.

I could have a "pet doctrine" that says - "If anyone has ever sinned - you are blotted out of God's book".

These are God's words and if you disagree with me - you are against God and thus a serpent, wicked, a liar, reprobate, not born-again, a child of the devil.

Exodus 32:33 (NASB)
[SUP]33 [/SUP] The LORD said to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot him out of My book.


This is a true statement but it is not the ultimate statement of truth because what Christ did on the cross and resurrection trumps this truth.

Works-based salvationists mindsets will always stumble at the preaching of Christ and His finished work of salvation for us.

Everything in the scriptures is truly stated but not everything is a statement of ultimate truth.

We need to filter all scripture through the clear scriptures of the salvation that is in Christ because of His grace through faith in what Jesus has already done for us.
I think this sums up what you're saying Grace.

Isaiah 28:9-10 KJV
Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
 
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These verses seem to be pointing the LEGALIST PHARISEES doesn't it?

Matthew 23:33-36 KJV
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
[34] Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
[35] That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
[36] Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
The children of that Wicked one are the children of Belial are of the serpents seed, seed of evil doers...

1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

Deuteronomy 13:13
Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;

2 Corinthians 6:15
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
 
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When did Paul stop tallking after the manner of men in Romans? Do you know difinitively?
If you had the Holy Spirit you would be able to rightly divide between the fleshy things and the Spiritual. :)
 
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I think this sums up what you're saying Grace.

Isaiah 28:9-10 KJV
Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[10] For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
Amen...we all know in part and we are growing in our knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ as we get more revelation of His beauty, love and grace for us.

Paul says "to him that thinks he knows something - he doesn't know it as he ought to."

What I look at is people's posts. If they never talk about Jesus and His beauty, love and grace - instead are condemning people all the time with saying they are cursed, evil, satanic, sinning, children of the devil, wanting to rain down fire on them...etc

That is a wrong spirit being manifested and I stay away from listening to what they have to say.

Here is how that "spirit" is manifested.

Luke 9:54-56 (NASB)
[SUP]54 [/SUP] When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, "Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?"

[SUP]55[/SUP] But He turned and rebuked them, and said, "You do not know what kind of spirit you are of;


[SUP]56 [/SUP] for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them".

 
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Revelation 11:5
And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
 
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The children who walk after the flesh being of the Wicked are the serpents seed.
Quote the verse book and chapter which states that exactly....that lost men are the SEED of Satan.....

verbatim, word for word.....
 
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If you had the Holy Spirit you would be able to rightly divide between the fleshy things and the Spiritual. :)
The same can easily be said of you....you cannot even discern basic truths and even the word eternal escapes your limited ability.....
 

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Revelation 11:5
And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
this was speaking specifically of the Two Witnesses , not a general statement.
 
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And you a liar, as demonstrated in your above post. :)
My post stands and I thought you are above sin....

Originally Posted by dcontroversal
You don't preach the words of God, but rather your twisted flavor of the words of God......C) Pharisee-ism and A) sinless perfectionism mixed with B) religious works because Jesus is not good enough......many see the subtle way you pervert the gospel.......your time will come......make no mistake

You teach..

a. You don't sin
b. Works are required so Jesus is not enough
c. You are self righteous (Pharisee-ism

Yep, my post was spot on.......see above highlighted letters compared to a-c......