but then why all the warnings about being led astray by false teachers? If we are predestined, it won't matter what we hear or do, as we go to heaven / hell no matter what else happens.
Matthew 24:24 [FONT="]For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
[/FONT]The question really is when were we elected? Was it before the foundation of the world? Or was it when we 'chose' Christ?
Surely we did not know we were chosen until after we were shown.
I wish I could answer your questions better. I see the warnings as for un-believers or those who have not yet been to Christ.