Caitlyn Jenner Will Reportedly Accept Invite to Trump's Inauguration

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Tommy379

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This isn't news. Bruce Jenner has been a republican supporter for years. He was big on Reagan back in the day.
 

skipp

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I thought the PE was all about conservative values? How can inviting Jenner be all about conservative values?
Because there's a difference between being an economic conservative and a social conservative. There's a lot of conservatives out there who support things like gay marriage and transsexuals. Conservative doesn't always equal Christian.
 

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I have a question, you're getting married your Brother is transgender, I don't mean he just likes to wear dresses I mean he's had surgery and calls himself by a different name, do you leave him off the guest list? Do you exclude him from your life?
 
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In my family just about every male is gay on my mother's side and I did have a transgender uncle, he died before surgery was a big thing.. called himself Carrol... We have bisexual and lesbian women... The entrance into my family came from Romania GMA, was heavy into fortune telling and all that garbage... Would I invite if my brother were trans? 1st I never acknowledge the bondage(since my own identity freedom came) so he'd already know to dress appropriately and I'd already call him his birth name.. I have yet to know someone to be so sensitive.. those ones have other issues and milk the identity role...
I have a question, you're getting married your Brother is transgender, I don't mean he just likes to wear dresses I mean he's had surgery and calls himself by a different name, do you leave him off the guest list? Do you exclude him from your life?
 

blue_ladybug

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Absolute physical impossibility to create a woman's vagina on a man, from parts of his wanker. Ridiculous rubbish.
 
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Mar 2:13 And he went forth again by the sea side; and all the multitude resorted unto him, and he taught them.
Mar 2:14 And as he passed by, he saw Levi the son of Alphaeus sitting at the receipt of custom, and said unto him, Follow me. And he arose and followed him.
Mar 2:15 And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
Mar 2:16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
Mar 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Thank you, Jesus, for you called me. ​I pray Brucelyn Jenner also hears your call.
 

Dude653

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Absolute physical impossibility to create a woman's vagina on a man, from parts of his wanker. Ridiculous rubbish.
Actually it is possible.... there is a surgical procedure. I won't post it here because it's graphic but you can Google it if you're interested
 
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I think you guys need a reality check. There are young children now demanding gender reassignment.

What kind of BS is this if we just say " ah well, God will forgive them"

Nah. You murder someone, you go to jail for life, or go to the gallows.

You reassign, you are a lost cause. This is not Winnie The Pooh or a fairy tale, Jesus does not come back and stick a new one on.
 

maxwel

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I think you guys need a reality check. There are young children now demanding gender reassignment.

What kind of BS is this if we just say " ah well, God will forgive them"

Nah. You murder someone, you go to jail for life, or go to the gallows.

You reassign, you are a lost cause. This is not Winnie The Pooh or a fairy tale, Jesus does not come back and stick a new one on.


You sort of compared 2 different concepts that have nothing to do with each other: God's forgiveness, and miraculous healing of a missing body part.

1. Of course God can forgive him.

2. But, even if Bruce does want forgiveness, God is not going to miraculously supply him with a new penis.

3. My own thought: although anyone CAN BE forgiven, by the time you're chopping off your own genitals, you've "probably" passed the place mentally/spiritually where you're ever WILLING to ask for forgiveness.



Finally, whatever we think about Trump's position on this, he doesn't have the job of being a pastor or theologian...
he has the job of being the President.

I didn't hire him to be my pastor.
Hopefully he'll be good at the job he was hired for.... and we all knew he wasn't a classical conservative when we hired him.
 
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Jesus came that we might have life - did you forget that?

Talking about forgiveness is moving chairs on the Titanic. Meanwhile some 11 year old somewhere is destroying their life because Obama and some cranky actors think it is a cool idea.

You sort of compared 2 different concepts that have nothing to do with each other: God's forgiveness, and miraculous healing of a missing body part.

1. Of course God can forgive him.

2. But, even if Bruce does want forgiveness, God is not going to miraculously supply him with a new penis.

3. My own thought: although anyone CAN BE forgiven, by the time you're chopping off your own genitals, you've "probably" passed the place mentally/spiritually where you're ever WILLING to ask for forgiveness.



Finally, whatever we think about Trump's position on this, he doesn't have the job of being a pastor or theologian...
he has the job of being the President.

I didn't hire him to be my pastor.
Hopefully he'll be good at the job he was hired for.... and we all knew he wasn't a classical conservative when we hired him.
 

maxwel

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Jesus came that we might have life - did you forget that?
I don't see that your reference to John 10:10 contradicts anything I said.


If you feel that verse contradicts anything I said, please post your explanation.
 
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I don't know. Ask Creflo Dollar if he has ever performed a miraculous penis replacement.

It is possible. Jesus healed withered arms.

But it is academic to me. The Church should teach that killing someone is a mortal sin because it cannot be undone.

Forgiveness is of little consolation to the family who has lost their loved one / breadwinner / etc etc

Likewise forgiveness is not really the big issue here with transgenderism.

If an 11 year old thinking about it hears that God will forgive them they might go ahead. If they hear that God strongly condemns such madness, they might reappraise their decision and life. Just sayin'
 

maxwel

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I don't know. Ask Creflo Dollar if he has ever performed a miraculous penis replacement.

It is possible. Jesus healed withered arms.

But it is academic to me. The Church should teach that killing someone is a mortal sin because it cannot be undone.

Forgiveness is of little consolation to the family who has lost their loved one / breadwinner / etc etc

Likewise forgiveness is not really the big issue here with transgenderism.

If an 11 year old thinking about it hears that God will forgive them they might go ahead. If they hear that God strongly condemns such madness, they might reappraise their decision and life. Just sayin'


1. You say that it's entirely possible God may give Bruce a new penis.

2. You then you say if children get the wrong message, they might go ahead and get a sex change... which is TERRIBLE!



Ummmm....


If God is in the PENIS REPLACEMENT business,
then what's the real harm if kids get a sex change...
since God can just change it back later?



The problem is this:
You know perfectly well God isn't going to give Bruce Jenner, or any other transexual, a brand new miracle penis.


You KNOW this isn't going to happen.
And THAT IS PRECISELY WHY a sex change is so bad.
YOU KNOW it's irreversible.


And yet you make these silly arguments anyway.
Just silly.
It's silly to argue about things you don't even believe yourself.
 
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I don't believe we should test God.

God can do anything he wants, and of course can repair human tissue.

But you can also jump off a bridge and expect God to catch you.

So let's stick to reality.






1. You say that it's entirely possible God may give Bruce a new penis.

2. You then you say if children get the wrong message, they might go ahead and get a sex change... which is TERRIBLE!



Ummmm....


If God is in the PENIS REPLACEMENT business,
then what's the real harm if kids get a sex change...
since God can just change it back later?



The problem is this:
You know perfectly well God isn't going to give Bruce Jenner, or anyone other transexual, a brand new miracle penis.


You KNOW this isn't going to happen.
And THAT IS PRECISELY WHY a sex change is so bad.
YOU KNOW it's irreversible.


And yet you make these silly arguments anyway.
Just silly.
It's silly to argue about things you don't even believe yourself.
 

maxwel

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I don't believe we should test God.

God can do anything he wants, and of course can repair human tissue.

But you can also jump off a bridge and expect God to catch you.

So let's stick to reality.

I started off in reality,
then you wanted to talk about God giving Bruce a new miracle penis.


If we're going to talk about REALITY... then we end up back at my original post...




1. Of course God can forgive him.

2. But, even if Bruce does want forgiveness, God is not going to miraculously supply him with a new penis.

3. My own thought: although anyone CAN BE forgiven, by the time you're chopping off your own genitals, you've "probably" passed the place mentally/spiritually where you're ever WILLING to ask for forgiveness
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I can't see anything strange, unorthodox, or controversial with my original statement... which you wanted to argue about.





Now, if you want to argue with my original post again... try staying in reality.

Otherwise, we'll go back through the same logical steps I just took you through, and we end up back where we started... with you avoiding reality.
 
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Caitlyn Jenner is a man, I don't understand why people keep referring to him as a she/her. God made you who you are & if you proclaim yourself to be other than what he made you that's disrespectful to him. What I would applaud is if he reproclaimed himself as a man & proclaimed Jesus as the Lord of his life which could influence those who look up to him.
 
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I think this is incredibly simplistic. We have a culture that screams be perverted.

7PM on the telly now:

Witchcraft, Satanism, Homosexuality, etc etc etc. Things our parents thought outlandish and impossible.

The most violent attacks on Christianity are Evolution and anything anti-family.

Children are being saturated with messages of gay is good, men are bad, etc etc etc.

In tow to all this is a fad of transgenderism, where children, e.g 7 year olds, are now demanding gender reassignment.

Once it is done, it is done.

The Church really just has to say it is madness. That is all I am saying.

There is nothing complicated or semantic about this.


God can forgive anyone? That is to me totally academic here. We need just to discuss basic morality, no more no less.



You sort of compared 2 different concepts that have nothing to do with each other: God's forgiveness, and miraculous healing of a missing body part.

1. Of course God can forgive him.

2. But, even if Bruce does want forgiveness, God is not going to miraculously supply him with a new penis.

3. My own thought: although anyone CAN BE forgiven, by the time you're chopping off your own genitals, you've "probably" passed the place mentally/spiritually where you're ever WILLING to ask for forgiveness.



Finally, whatever we think about Trump's position on this, he doesn't have the job of being a pastor or theologian...
he has the job of being the President.

I didn't hire him to be my pastor.
Hopefully he'll be good at the job he was hired for.... and we all knew he wasn't a classical conservative when we hired him.
 

maxwel

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I think this is incredibly simplistic. We have a culture that screams be perverted.

7PM on the telly now:

Witchcraft, Satanism, Homosexuality, etc etc etc. Things our parents thought outlandish and impossible.

The most violent attacks on Christianity are Evolution and anything anti-family.

Children are being saturated with messages of gay is good, men are bad, etc etc etc.

In tow to all this is a fad of transgenderism, where children, e.g 7 year olds, are now demanding gender reassignment.

Once it is done, it is done.

The Church really just has to say it is madness. That is all I am saying.

There is nothing complicated or semantic about this.


God can forgive anyone? That is to me totally academic here. We need just to discuss basic morality, no more no less.

To be fair, I'll just state that I have no issue with anything in this post.


Thanks for clarifying your thoughts.