Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer
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This is a parable of interaction.
The respect and letting the light shine is more important than the content.
Most times both sides are wrong to a degree, and right to a degree.
Grace matters and so does walking in love, Halleluyah.
Based on the animosity in some peoples hearts, am I allowed to say this.
I prayed for a brother who said I should not because I was not praying to
Jesus. Now this is how contorted some get, just on a few posts.
Pain and hurt distorts the soul, so we need to be careful how we respond
and who we are talking to. I equally can fall into this trap and probably fail
too often, because I do not know your lives and the damage and hurts you
have come out of. God bless
The respect and letting the light shine is more important than the content.
Most times both sides are wrong to a degree, and right to a degree.
Grace matters and so does walking in love, Halleluyah.
Based on the animosity in some peoples hearts, am I allowed to say this.
I prayed for a brother who said I should not because I was not praying to
Jesus. Now this is how contorted some get, just on a few posts.
Pain and hurt distorts the soul, so we need to be careful how we respond
and who we are talking to. I equally can fall into this trap and probably fail
too often, because I do not know your lives and the damage and hurts you
have come out of. God bless
I still cannot believe we can post verse after verse concerning the faithful men of the bible and their obvious admission to sin and or sins or being sinful and yet we have people in this age that will flat deny these verses and make themselves out to be BETTER and more RIGHTEOUS than the men of the bible like DANIEL, Peter, Paul etc.....folks....we are ALL in the same boat when it comes to our nature and character....only 1 (ONE) was sinless and even he BECAME sin for us that HIS righteousness can be applied by faith......JESUS was clear....OUR born again spirits are ALWAYS willing to do what is right and biblical, but OUR flesh which we still PACK is weak and not subject unto the word of GOD....the battle ground is the MIND and sometimes, yeah in some, MANY times we fail and sin....end of story and this IS biblical.....the scriptures PROVE this stance...
NO WHERE does this advocate a lifestyle of sin, NO where does this indicate that we are not to repent and seek forgiveness by repenting and confessing....NO where does this indicate that we cannot grow more and more faithful while suppressing our fallen nature....until we have a resurrected body we will fail and SIN...end of story!
NO WHERE does this advocate a lifestyle of sin, NO where does this indicate that we are not to repent and seek forgiveness by repenting and confessing....NO where does this indicate that we cannot grow more and more faithful while suppressing our fallen nature....until we have a resurrected body we will fail and SIN...end of story!
D
Not hardly, P. I am an OSAS kind of person. I didn't get that DC was talking to me. I didn't get that because DC is talking to those who believe we are or can become sinless in life after salvation. That's not OSAS doctrine at all. (Rather opposite of what we believe, since frankly, if we think we're permanently saved, then we don't have to justify ourselves by being sinless, so why bother being sinless? 
)
That you and DC "have had many encounters on this very subject," suggests that is because you think DC is always talking about OSAS for some whacked out reason. Or, more likely, you are so caught up thinking that's what he's talking about because that's what you want to talk about. So, maybe what you originally said wasn't a lie because you are so focused on your go-to argument with DC, but to keep propagating your opinion of what he's really talking about, despite the facts, will turn that into a lie.
Your choice now -- ask for forgiveness from DC for this misunderstanding, or realize more of us are going to take you as a liar, because you refuse to see the subject and pretend it is something else.
I get along with DC about like I get along with you, so don't think this is me taking sides just because. When you say someone is lying simply because he isn't talking about the argument you prefer was very much unjustified. To continue pretending this is on him turns it into a lie.
)That you and DC "have had many encounters on this very subject," suggests that is because you think DC is always talking about OSAS for some whacked out reason. Or, more likely, you are so caught up thinking that's what he's talking about because that's what you want to talk about. So, maybe what you originally said wasn't a lie because you are so focused on your go-to argument with DC, but to keep propagating your opinion of what he's really talking about, despite the facts, will turn that into a lie.
Your choice now -- ask for forgiveness from DC for this misunderstanding, or realize more of us are going to take you as a liar, because you refuse to see the subject and pretend it is something else.
I get along with DC about like I get along with you, so don't think this is me taking sides just because. When you say someone is lying simply because he isn't talking about the argument you prefer was very much unjustified. To continue pretending this is on him turns it into a lie.
D
Off-topic, but it seems needed anyway:
"You guys" is a regionalism in the US. This is how we distinguish between singular "you" and plural "you." Plural "you" can be
-- you
-- youse
-- you guys
-- you all
-- ya'll
-- y'all.
Grammatically speaking, it is, of course, incorrect. But depending on where we live in the US, it really does clarify between singular "you" and plural "you." (Added bonus, we can usually tell which part of the States a person is from by which use is given. "You guys." Traditionally the Northeast.) Never a thing to define "endearing" at all to us.
"You guys" is a regionalism in the US. This is how we distinguish between singular "you" and plural "you." Plural "you" can be
-- you
-- youse
-- you guys
-- you all
-- ya'll
-- y'all.
Grammatically speaking, it is, of course, incorrect. But depending on where we live in the US, it really does clarify between singular "you" and plural "you." (Added bonus, we can usually tell which part of the States a person is from by which use is given. "You guys." Traditionally the Northeast.) Never a thing to define "endearing" at all to us.
Be not removed from the SIMPLICITY that is found in JESUS
If only we truly understood who we are in Christ then life would be so much easier. But 1 step at a time.
Each step Christ is walking with us.
I think it's a bit like God (not wishing to be irreverent) but I do wander if he is saying "he's gonna get it, he's gonna get it, he's gonna get it........GOT IT.
We get it when we remain within the simplicity that is found in Jesus.
That is we are in Jesus, he us in us. And he knows what's best. Nothing more and nothing less.
W
It is because they won't let us get past salvation. They are forever stuck on salvation and NEVER advance in the Christian life.
For simplicity, just one verse sums up the believer who wants to continue in sin or evil(human good.)
Saved as if through fire. Going into the Kingdom naked and never glorified the Lord in time. Sin and evil(human good) have huge eternal consequences for the believer.............it's just not their salvation.
For simplicity, just one verse sums up the believer who wants to continue in sin or evil(human good.)
Saved as if through fire. Going into the Kingdom naked and never glorified the Lord in time. Sin and evil(human good) have huge eternal consequences for the believer.............it's just not their salvation.