Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer
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The problem of faith
Our hearts are the engine. If the heart is faulty and not set right nothing else
matters.
The reason why corinth won Pauls heart is because they repented when confronted
with their obvious sin. They were sensitive to walking by the Spirit and not by the flesh.
You know ones heart is off beam, when sin does not make ones conscience or heart
flicker. People in church are very nice people, caring, loving, dedicated, sensitive,
open, honest, truthful. It is possible to live in this world and not be saved.
It is then possible to have a personality crisis and end up with the sinners version
of faith. It only works in wealthy communities where people can be nice and still
unbelievers because being nice costs nothing.
And funnily these very people come with thorns and thistles against me as if I
am saying anything wrong other that be obedient to Christ and love from the heart.
If you want a sign of a heart off beam this is it.
Now they are ignorant of their state, but it is like a massive beacon flashing in the
street. Evil is when people do evil not encourage people to follow Christ.
Encouraging people to follow Christ is called witnessing, what evangelism is all about
sharing how Jesus changed us and how we are walking in love and victory today.
But only the people of the Kingdom know the difference, which is ironic, because unfortunately
it shows up a lot of failures in the real spiritual world.
By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Mat 7:16
Am I going to say, hey guys you are so right, it really makes sense what you
are saying, I should ignore my heart, and my emotions and desires and just walk
without sight or self awareness and do whatever I like, because Christ bought this
for me. This only works on unredeemed sinners who need religion not those following
Christ and desiring to be His friend.
Our hearts are the engine. If the heart is faulty and not set right nothing else
matters.
The reason why corinth won Pauls heart is because they repented when confronted
with their obvious sin. They were sensitive to walking by the Spirit and not by the flesh.
You know ones heart is off beam, when sin does not make ones conscience or heart
flicker. People in church are very nice people, caring, loving, dedicated, sensitive,
open, honest, truthful. It is possible to live in this world and not be saved.
It is then possible to have a personality crisis and end up with the sinners version
of faith. It only works in wealthy communities where people can be nice and still
unbelievers because being nice costs nothing.
And funnily these very people come with thorns and thistles against me as if I
am saying anything wrong other that be obedient to Christ and love from the heart.
If you want a sign of a heart off beam this is it.
Now they are ignorant of their state, but it is like a massive beacon flashing in the
street. Evil is when people do evil not encourage people to follow Christ.
Encouraging people to follow Christ is called witnessing, what evangelism is all about
sharing how Jesus changed us and how we are walking in love and victory today.
But only the people of the Kingdom know the difference, which is ironic, because unfortunately
it shows up a lot of failures in the real spiritual world.
By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Mat 7:16
Am I going to say, hey guys you are so right, it really makes sense what you
are saying, I should ignore my heart, and my emotions and desires and just walk
without sight or self awareness and do whatever I like, because Christ bought this
for me. This only works on unredeemed sinners who need religion not those following
Christ and desiring to be His friend.
I am lucky if I make it past an hour.
Oops did I just say lucky? I meant spiritual.
Mind you I do have to say that every day for about 8 hours I don't sin.
Thats when I am asleep.
Sirk - Do you have a way back from your position? None of this works if I am not a legalist
or working for self righteousness or trying to justify myself.
This is why it matters so badly to you.
Is it christianity is dead unless it works the way you believe at present?
I know people in faith who work like this. I had a relative who either had
his version of faith or be an atheist. So I am curious you want to box me
the way you are trying to do.
And the man on the cross. Hallelujah, he was saved, what grace and love from
Christ. If you have ever done open air evangelism, one soul into heaven is precious,
and not that common. So God bless you, and I hope you find in God what you need,
or working for self righteousness or trying to justify myself.
This is why it matters so badly to you.
Is it christianity is dead unless it works the way you believe at present?
I know people in faith who work like this. I had a relative who either had
his version of faith or be an atheist. So I am curious you want to box me
the way you are trying to do.
And the man on the cross. Hallelujah, he was saved, what grace and love from
Christ. If you have ever done open air evangelism, one soul into heaven is precious,
and not that common. So God bless you, and I hope you find in God what you need,
Now if the spirit says this then why dont people believe it,,,, is it because in reality they are perfectionist underneath ? ,,,, (i mean they say they will never abandondon there faith and they have recieved salvation,,,
But here in scripture we see that the spirit clearly says that some will abadon there faith..
Now i dont like to be right about this but surley if the spirit reconises Faith was not enough to save them does this mean that salvation comes at the end ?
And also is it the case that maybe born again believers keepers of the faith.. can be possessed ?..
Now if we hope for salvation would this devine prayer for salvation open a door to thinking about doing good works ?
Instead of thinking about ive been made perfect and im not going to fall ?,,,,,, or demons tempting you and decieving you..
I mean i think its a fair question based upon this scripture you post..
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eternally-gratefull
Guest
that's why they get so angry.. Its why they crucified Christ.
When your told all your hard work of being good is useless as far as your entrance to heaven.. It devastates you, So you have to fight it..
There is a reason why that thief is on the cross, other than for the crimes he had committed.
The followed link is worth a 10 minute listen to.
[video]https://youtu.be/0pG8eUIetzw[/video]
Sirk
eternally-gratefull
wsblind (has left the building)
It seems clear to me that you are defilers.
None of you seem to look at the inaccuracy, or vile judgements in what each other say - do you?
So who is wsblind, Sirk, you apparently know. Was he previously banned? I've seem nothing but vile judgements and twisted humour from you brother.
While PeterJens obviously has a lot to say, and may not be perfect in what he says, or any one of us if we wish to speak about our thoughts and opinions AND yet he doesn't really use your language of speaking back towards you - you look for all the points where he may be incorrect so that you can defile and twist his words.
Is that love, or is that evil? Because it appears to be evil.
Please give me comment numbers or something to prove your points about PeterJens, because I haven't seen what you seem to be dragging people here into believing with you. The devil always 'rallies' support around him. And even if your points are valid, your vile judgements will never be valid.
Utah, you should know better to support such comments. Do you think it is funny people making jokes about someone having a psychotic break? I don't think so. But the people above will, because they don't observe it in themselves that it is ungodly. They think it's innocent and funny, yet their intentions underneath that innocence is far from it. And they know it.
And I don't judge any of you, but I judge the evil in you - because that's not from God. (<>) And many of your comments are pretty ungodly in my opinion. I won't stand by and see it transpire, and for it to be allowed here where we are supposed to try our best to be loving and humble to each other, is not right.
We are supposed to bring each other out of the darkness, or guide each other, or to support each other, and that is all I am attempting here. But if you wish to defile my comment too, then please go ahead.
eternally-gratefull
wsblind (has left the building)
It seems clear to me that you are defilers.
None of you seem to look at the inaccuracy, or vile judgements in what each other say - do you?
So who is wsblind, Sirk, you apparently know. Was he previously banned? I've seem nothing but vile judgements and twisted humour from you brother.
While PeterJens obviously has a lot to say, and may not be perfect in what he says, or any one of us if we wish to speak about our thoughts and opinions AND yet he doesn't really use your language of speaking back towards you - you look for all the points where he may be incorrect so that you can defile and twist his words.
Is that love, or is that evil? Because it appears to be evil.
Please give me comment numbers or something to prove your points about PeterJens, because I haven't seen what you seem to be dragging people here into believing with you. The devil always 'rallies' support around him. And even if your points are valid, your vile judgements will never be valid.
Utah, you should know better to support such comments. Do you think it is funny people making jokes about someone having a psychotic break? I don't think so. But the people above will, because they don't observe it in themselves that it is ungodly. They think it's innocent and funny, yet their intentions underneath that innocence is far from it. And they know it.
And I don't judge any of you, but I judge the evil in you - because that's not from God. (<>) And many of your comments are pretty ungodly in my opinion. I won't stand by and see it transpire, and for it to be allowed here where we are supposed to try our best to be loving and humble to each other, is not right.
We are supposed to bring each other out of the darkness, or guide each other, or to support each other, and that is all I am attempting here. But if you wish to defile my comment too, then please go ahead.
Hey mate well noticed he completely defiles the word of God everyday,,, and the so called brothers support it,,, i mean if there trying to save him when do you say i need out,, because you cant save someone who doesnt want to be saved... he has to do that for himself...
Mate the best way to deal witht he likes of sirk is to just accept that he lost and dont let his words offend rather see a light for him.
Try to rise above it,,, i think eternaly grateful sufferes with the same resentment just how long must we all secome to this file bitter attitude for the total lack of respect..
This a very confusing post. It seems that when people say lots of words it gets that way. What does the Bible say: the more words the less the meaning? Something along those lines. What I see here is the same thing I see in churches. Self righteous people with their Christianese language they speak so fluently as the empty rhetoric that it is. Quoting bible verses to bolster their wicked hearts. Anyway, no wasblind was not banned, he just got a new account. Maybe you should at least try to live up to your own standard. But you can't, neither can bubble boy, and neither can jimbobbillybob45thousand.
It could not have been two years ago. He was posting when I was new...Am I missing something? Jason007 got banned about 2 YEARS ago. YOU, on the other hand have been here barely a MONTH. So how do you know what a loon he was?